Oh and even idiot Hallit, said the 3H stuff was no longer official

yeah, but Fun pub did do the Wreckers wrap up. Which means it's still in the legal official realm. Of course it's all alternates in the Multiverse... so really it's up to anyone to pick which one they want to go with.

 

And thats the best part of it man, the fan picks their own canon. No need for the long drawn out changing ever few months canon that ends up confusing everyone anyway. Just make your own

Oh and even idiot Hallit, said the 3H stuff was no longer official

yeah, but Fun pub did do the Wreckers wrap up. Which means it's still in the legal official realm. Of course it's all alternates in the Multiverse... so really it's up to anyone to pick which one they want to go with.

 

And thats the best part of it man, the fan picks their own canon. No need for the long drawn out changing ever few months canon that ends up confusing everyone anyway. Just make your own

 

And I think that's you can take away the most from this whole thread :thumb

I'd say the answer is... it's offical, but read/watch what you like.

I'd say the answer is... it's offical, but read/watch what you like.

 

Fair enough! Though a G1 sequel would be awesome for the next TF videogame. And then all arguments would be settled!

I'd say the answer is... it's offical, but read/watch what you like.

 

How about this, Everything is official, its up to the fan to figure out there personal canon that works for them.

I hate the word canon in general. No one seems to know what it means. It's a religious term. It's what the official word of the church is on something. By definition there is no "personal canon" as those would be opposites to each other... either something is personal OR canon.

 

So I tend to ignore the word canon when people use it. You can enjoy any fiction you like, skip that you don't. What people may call personal canon is really "this is a list of the things you like."

 

So it's ALL official, right down to bad voice actor plays, TV commercial clips, and tech specs bios that contradict the TV show. You follow what you like.

I hate the word canon in general. No one seems to know what it means. It's a religious term. It's what the official word of the church is on something. By definition there is no "personal canon" as those would be opposites to each other... either something is personal OR canon.

 

So I tend to ignore the word canon when people use it. You can enjoy any fiction you like, skip that you don't. What people may call personal canon is really "this is a list of the things you like."

 

So it's ALL official, right down to bad voice actor plays, TV commercial clips, and tech specs bios that contradict the TV show. You follow what you like.

 

I would say you just said it best

you could even say that the canon transforms with the perspective of each fan :tflaugh

Oh and anything from 3H and The OTFCC, is not real and utterly worthless as far as canon goes

 

Sorry LO, but that's a load of berillium bologna. They are officially licensed media. If you don't like them, that's personal taste... and they are the only ones to publish stories which continue the story post-Beast Machines. So it's official.

 

Check it :P

 

Are the BotCon/OTFCC stories really "official" TF canon?

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Last modified 2005-Mar-18. This is sort of a tricky question depending on exactly what you mean by "official". The convention stories are all approved by Hasbro. They have Hasbro's blessing, and bear official TF trademarks and logos. So, in that sense, the convention stories are every bit as valid as the Beast Wars TV series, or the Dreamwave comics, or any other licensed fiction you can name.

 

There are a couple subtle differences which some fans consider meaningful, however. Most of them are centered on the fact that 3H's stories are written by fans, for fans, and only given Hasbro approval after the fact. This is in contrast to something like an animated series which is created at Hasbro's behest and is paid for out of Hasbro's pocket. They go to an animator, say "make a show about these toys", and then fork over the cash. So, Hasbro's involvement in a TV show could be seen as more proactive, as if they actually "want" that story to exist, while the convention stuff is merely given a stamp of approval, possibly not meaning much more than "sure, whatever". Of course, the G1 comics from Dreamwave were in much the same situation as the convention fiction on that note, since it wasn't about selling G1 toys, but not many people question their officialness.

 

Another issue for some fans is the limited distribution of convention stories. Most Transformers material is available to millions of people at a time, in the form of TV broadcasts, mass-distribution comics, and so on, while the 'con has less than a few thousand attendees yearly. The convention fiction all becomes available online eventually, but it still has much smaller exposure than other stories do.

 

Both of these arguments against "officialness", however, are better suited as arguments against considering the stories "canon". And, as described in section [N/A], that's pretty much a personal decision anyway. In the end, Hasbro still gives their approval to the stories, so they are official Transformers stories in the only sense that the word "official" really has. What you want to do with that in terms of how it affects other stories -- ignore it, incorporate it, whatever -- is up to you.

 

 

Sorry man, they ain't nothin, and yes I side with the personal canon, as official has been screwed up for years, and I never cared for it in the first place :tflaugh

 

Oh and even idiot Hallit, said the 3H stuff was no longer official

Actually Onslaught, most of the 3H and later Fun Publications fiction is professional work officially sanctioned by hasbro and paid for. The writers of these stories have included Simon Furman, and currently Forest Lee of Hasbro. In fact Forest Lee in particular is currently the main writer for the Fun Publications Timelines stories. He is also the main copywriter for the Thransformers line as well as Hasbro's official spokesman regarding canon. He's the one who answers the bi-monthly Hasbro Q&As

 

I hate the word canon in general. No one seems to know what it means. It's a religious term. It's what the official word of the church is on something. By definition there is no "personal canon" as those would be opposites to each other... either something is personal OR canon.

 

So I tend to ignore the word canon when people use it. You can enjoy any fiction you like, skip that you don't. What people may call personal canon is really "this is a list of the things you like."

 

So it's ALL official, right down to bad voice actor plays, TV commercial clips, and tech specs bios that contradict the TV show. You follow what you like.

Well, all "Canon" means anyway is officially sanctioned by an authoritative body. In the case of Transformers, that's Hasbro and Takara.

And that includes coloring books and whatever story happened in Generation Zero/Tatakae