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Fistful of Energon

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Wait wait wait! Hold up hold up! After posting, I went back to youtube and now I'm wondering when did Screamer have time to make this army if he was captured by the Autobots? Don't say during the fifty yrs he was looking for the Allspark. He would have used them day one. Unless they needed a spark which would lead me to believe he got the idea after getting his Allspark shard. which would have given him no time unless he can instantly reproduce.

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It's got to have something to do with the All-Spark fragment. Also, there was a period of time between him breaking free and when Prowl picked up the signal. Not much, but it's something...

Never mind. Magnus said Screamer was gone for a Deca-cycle.....however long that is.

well he only had to make the first 2 then while the clones were keeping everyone busy he made the 3rd and so on.

I didn't see that. I thought it was a reference to the episode being called "A Fistful of Energon," being a reference to Clint Eastwood in "A Fistful of Dollars."

Too bad they passed up the chance to do a Toshiro Mifune reference or two when Prowl had the samurai armour. That would've been interesting on a meta-level, with the character from the original movie facing off against his counterpart from the remake.

Where did Starscream get the materials to construct those clones? And would Starscream have the expertise/skills to construct clones?!? Simply possessing the AllSpark doesn't explain enough - the AllSpark fragment in his noggin just keeps him 'alive' (undead?) - but he can reproduce it. And the clones haven't been portrayed as being sentient or living themselves - we saw this when the bombs activated, they just shut down like drones. So where did he get the time, ability and resources to make a freakin' clone-drone army?! (o_O)

 

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Again I'll have to go back and watch the G1 Dinobot episodes but...my recollection is that they ARE being portrayed exactly as their G1 characters, cartoon wise that is. Although the Other Dinobots arn't talking. That doesn't really bother me as much as the lack of using the Dinobots in more Animated stories.

As Octavian Prime pointed out, the G1 Dinobots were fantastically portrayed in the G1 comics. They were never geniuses, but they weren't idiots either. Remember that Grimlock was elected as Autobot leader after Optimus Prime's first death. And in fact, I thought that was a much better executed story of power absolutely corrupting when we saw Grimlock become a corrupt tyrant. Grimlock continued to question his leadership abilities into G2, although Optimus Prime never stopped believing in him. Grimlock was Optimus Prime's named successor after his second death (as a Powermaster). Swoop (originally known as Divebomb) was formerly part of the Autobot Elite Flying Corps back on Cybertron until he was shamefully defeated in battle by a Decepticon who stole his name, forcing him to rename himself as "Swoop." The other Dinobots were portrayed as being powerful warriors who were unquestionably loyal to Grimlock and would follow him to whatever end. Slag was the Berserker, in very much the classical Anglo-Celtic/Norse definition. And remember that Grimlock was also Earthforce commander. And remember that it was only the Dinobots who saw through the Decepticon's deception during the Autobot-Decepticon Alliance. Every other Autobot, including Prowl, firmly believed that Bludgeon and his followers were honouring the Decepticons' alliance with the Autobots as forged by Scorponok and Optimus Prime. But in the end, the Dinobots were right.

 

Now although the G1 cartoon Dinobots weren't as well written as their G1 comic counterparts, they were still not as retarded as the Animated Dinobots. Now again, they were never scholars - in fact, Spike did point out at one stage that they were illiterate - but they weren't idiots either, at least in Seasons 1 and 2. The Dinobots did become really stupid in Transformers The Movie and Season 3, which was really quite sad. They basically became really infantile and changed from being these awesome powerful friends of the Autobots to becoming big, clumsy comic relief characters. *sigh* But even as stupid as they were, they were never animalistic savages, which is how the Animated Dinobots are portrayed.

 

The Animated Dinobots seem to have the intelligence level of Noble/Savage, but aren't as well presented characters IMO. Even Noble/Savage had better character development (and even became a martyr).

 

I'd like to see the Dinobots get developed a lot more beyond just being big, stupid and angry - even if they only reach the level of Noble/Savage. (-_-)

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well he only had to make the first 2 then while the clones were keeping everyone busy he made the 3rd and so on.

 

Also, just because they looked like they might be offline at the end of the episode, doesn't mean they WERE, or that they'd been that way the whole time. Think about it: You make one clone, then get that clone to help make another clone, and so on, and so on, and soon you've got a brisk little production line.

Like Oompa Loompas! :P

I'm sure they'll explain the clones in a later episode... :P

The geewun comic :tfevil was so much better than this poseur :animated :tfevil

 

Maybe you should start and online petition in protest. :tflaugh

 

 

Another thing about clones: They gave off AllSpark radiation.... :schin

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