+1. Precisely. As Father Time said, everything about Dynamo's Grimlock just cries Mary Sue.

+1. Precisely. As Father Time said, everything about Dynamo's Grimlock just cries Mary Sue.

 

 

I must admit, I'm not familiar with the term 'Mary Sue'. But, I think I get the point now.

 

Now, 'Mary Sue'/poor writing aside...does anyone have a problem with the idea of Grimlock reformatting on the fly and/or reformatting from a scan of a T-Rex skeleton (the original point of the post)?

Now, 'Mary Sue'/poor writing aside...does anyone have a problem with the idea of Grimlock reformatting on the fly and/or reformatting from a scan of a T-Rex skeleton (the original point of the post)?

Well, I'm curious as to why an intact Dinosaur skeleton is just sitting around in the middle of the battle...where are they?

 

And why has the skeleton remained intact despite giant robots engaging in a very destructive battle around it?

 

If it's not intact, how much is left? And are those pieces arranged in a way that would be helpful to Grimlock in trying to mimic this animal?

 

For that matter, how does Grimlock, an alien robot, recognize the fossilized bones of an extinct carbon based life form as something "scannable" instead of just some fancily arranged rocks?

 

Whether he recognizes them as something more than rocks or not, wouldn't it make more sense for his character to just scan another nearby vehicle?

 

If no vehicles are nearby, and he's got this mind blowing reformatting ability that he needs to use, wouldn't it make more sense to scan one of the other Transformers? I mean, at least they're still technology, right?

 

 

 

In all fairness to you, I find that all these questions raise their ugly heads in any story that involves the Dinobots scanning their alt. modes, not just yours. And no one seems to have answers for them.

Save Grimlock for Transformers Animated .. he works better with Saturday Morning cartoons. Movies are somethin totally different.

 

In all honesty, I'd rather there be no animals in Transformers II .. not to say I have a detest for beastformers or anything.. I just can't picture a robot converting into any animal for any reason in the story they got set as of now.. espically when you got jets, cars and tanks to pick from.. why a big slow dinosaur? It's totally impractical anyway you look at it.

Now, 'Mary Sue'/poor writing aside...does anyone have a problem with the idea of Grimlock reformatting on the fly and/or reformatting from a scan of a T-Rex skeleton (the original point of the post)?

 

1. Well, I'm curious as to why an intact Dinosaur skeleton is just sitting around in the middle of the battle...where are they?

 

2. And why has the skeleton remained intact despite giant robots engaging in a very destructive battle around it?

 

3. If it's not intact, how much is left? And are those pieces arranged in a way that would be helpful to Grimlock in trying to mimic this animal?

 

4. For that matter, how does Grimlock, an alien robot, recognize the fossilized bones of an extinct carbon based life form as something "scannable" instead of just some fancily arranged rocks?

 

5. Whether he recognizes them as something more than rocks or not, wouldn't it make more sense for his character to just scan another nearby vehicle?

 

6. If no vehicles are nearby, and he's got this mind blowing reformatting ability that he needs to use, wouldn't it make more sense to scan one of the other Transformers? I mean, at least they're still technology, right?

 

 

7. In all fairness to you, I find that all these questions raise their ugly heads in any story that involves the Dinobots scanning their alt. modes, not just yours. And no one seems to have answers for them.

 

1. They are in a natural history museum.

 

2. They land at the foot of the skeleton during the battle. It is perhaps mounted on a plinth and held in place (as most fossilized skeletons are) with metal rods and supports.

 

3. The entire skeleton is intact (or as intact as it can be - I don't know if an absolutely complete skeleton has ever been found).

 

4. This one will take a stretch of imagination for sure. Lets just assume that his scan of the internet is very thorough. It could be the case that Grimlock has been on Earth longer than the other Autobots, and has amassed more information about Earth's history. *shrugs* Maybe someone has a better idea?

 

5. We're in a natural history museum first of all. Secondly, would having Grimlock scan a car be as exciting or cool as him scanning a T-Rex? The ONLY reason he'd scan a T-Rex is to give the audience, and the fans a "wow ain't that cool Grimlock's a T-Rex moment". I doubt him scanning a car would have the same effect.

 

6. See answer 5.

 

7. You are correct. Which is why I'm attempting to find answers to those questions. I'm afraid however you attempt to do it, you're going to have to expect a large stretch of the imagination from the audience. That said, it is transforming robots we're talking about here... :)

If you don't know what something means, feel free to look it up. Seriously dude, Google is your friend. ;)

 

What is a Mary Sue

How to avoid Mary Sues

The ONLY reason he'd scan a T-Rex is to give the audience, and the fans a "wow ain't that cool Grimlock's a T-Rex moment".

Sorry, IMO that's just not a good enough reason to go through all the contrivance required to get to that moment.

The ONLY reason he'd scan a T-Rex is to give the audience, and the fans a "wow ain't that cool Grimlock's a T-Rex moment".

Sorry, IMO that's just not a good enough reason to go through all the contrivance required to get to that moment.

 

Many movies have that kind of plot device...

 

Doesn't mean it's a good plot device, but it's certainly there...

The ONLY reason he'd scan a T-Rex is to give the audience, and the fans a "wow ain't that cool Grimlock's a T-Rex moment".

Sorry, IMO that's just not a good enough reason to go through all the contrivance required to get to that moment.

 

Many movies have that kind of plot device...

 

Doesn't mean it's a good plot device, but it's certainly there...

Well, why would you want to make a bad movie just because somebody else made one too?

Many bad movies have made money at the box office.

 

Though I doubt Transformers 2 will use such a plot device on anybody other than maybe Megatron.