Touche.  Some movies do well despite it, but it's in the minority.  For every one that you can name that is successful despite it's changes, I can show you 5 more that sucked.

And let me guess, those would include movies from the 80's that didn't make any sense....

 

Movies made within the last 5 years have had the number of good films leading the number of bad films:

 

Good:

 

- X-Men

- X-Men 2

- Spiderman

- Spiderman 2

- Punisher

- Daredevil

- Hellboy

- Blade

- Blade II

 

 

Bad:

 

- Catwoman

- The Hulk

- LXG

 

That's 3:1 for the Good movies. Hmm...

I don't know whether to laugh my ass off at this whole discussion, or gnaw my leg off to escape it.

 

There's nothing like a bunch of fanboys with equal measures of confidence and cluelessness arguing about a movie that isn't going to hit the screens for another two years. The best part is how everyone here knows SO much about Hollywood and how movies are made. Roffle, thy name is fanboy speculation.

 

Maybe we should all take a step back and think, "isn't it cool that there's going to be a Transformers movie that has a decent chance of actually kicking ass?" And PLEASE, for the love of Primus, learn to discern the difference between what YOU think is important to the Transformers, and what REALLY IS important. Opinions are great, but let's remember that that's all they are.

 

:wave

Why not include them? I could disagree with the Blade movies, and while I liked Daredevil, I'm sure a few would question you on that as well.

 

All I'm saying is, why wouldn't they stick to the original, if thats what they are basing it on? They have the capabilities to, they don't have to worry about realism in a plot that already has so much to convey that's unrealistic, and toys can be designed in any which way they want. It's within their power to, so why wouldn't they?

 

If your given 2 options, both are completely doable, why not choose the option that follows the original theme, why "bastardize" it for no reason other than to change it?

I don't know whether to laugh my ass off at this whole discussion, or gnaw my leg off to escape it.

 

There's nothing like a bunch of fanboys with equal measures of confidence and cluelessness arguing about a movie that isn't going to hit the screens for another two years. The best part is how everyone here knows SO much about Hollywood and how movies are made. Roffle, thy name is fanboy speculation.

 

Maybe we should all take a step back and think, "isn't it cool that there's going to be a Transformers movie that has a decent chance of actually kicking ass?" And PLEASE, for the love of Primus, learn to discern the difference between what YOU think is important to the Transformers, and what REALLY IS important. Opinions are great, but let's remember that that's all they are.

 

:wave

:pfx :clap

I don't know whether to laugh my ass off at this whole discussion, or gnaw my leg off to escape it.

 

There's nothing like a bunch of fanboys with equal measures of confidence and cluelessness arguing about a movie that isn't going to hit the screens for another two years. The best part is how everyone here knows SO much about Hollywood and how movies are made. Roffle, thy name is fanboy speculation.

 

Maybe we should all take a step back and think, "isn't it cool that there's going to be a Transformers movie that has a decent chance of actually kicking ass?" And PLEASE, for the love of Primus, learn to discern the difference between what YOU think is important to the Transformers, and what REALLY IS important. Opinions are great, but let's remember that that's all they are.

 

:wave

Your kidding me right? Your calling me a fanboy when you say "for the love of Primus"?

 

Why do we have to insult each other, call each other names, etc... why can't we have an argument or discussion without going insane and acting like a bunch of children.

 

Forget I said anything. Jesus.

Why not include them?  I could disagree with the Blade movies, and while I liked Daredevil, I'm sure a few would question you on that as well.

 

All I'm saying is, why wouldn't they stick to the original, if thats what they are basing it on?  They have the capabilities to, they don't have to worry about realism in a plot that already has so much to convey that's unrealistic, and toys can be designed in any which way they want.  It's within their power to, so why wouldn't they?

 

If your given 2 options, both are completely doable, why not choose the option that follows the original theme, why "bastardize" it for no reason other than to change it?

Bastardize it?? How in the universe can you even say that now? We have no idea what's up their sleeves. I certainly don't consider a tank Megatron bastardizing anything. You know what was really bastardizing Transformers? All that horrible animation and errors in the Season 3 cartoon.

 

Edit: SFC that Salad Finger guy really gives me the creeps dude.

If your given 2 options, both are completely doable, why not choose the option that follows the original theme, why "bastardize" it for no reason other than to change it?

But that's the exact point Murphy is trying to make. Both options AREN'T completely doable, which is why....with the info he has given us....he is trying to give us the characters we love and the story we know, but still making it believable to the general public.

 

"Reality" to the general movie going public is different that regular reality. In "Reality" Bruce Willis can take a team of oil drillers up into space to plant a nuclear weapon on an asteroid. In "Reality" aliens can come from another planet, launch hundreds of city-sized ships at the Earth, and Will Smith can save the day by piloting a spaceship that crashed at Roswell. And in "Reality" robots can come from an alien world, crash land on Earth millions of years ago, and then be awakened today so that they can continue their fight. But what Murphy thinks won't fit into "Reality" is that 20 foot tall robots can transform into objects that can fit into a bookbag. That's pushing things too far.

Edit: SFC that Salad Finger guy really gives me the creeps dude.

The pic, or did you go watch the vid? :tfgrin

If your given 2 options, both are completely doable, why not choose the option that follows the original theme, why "bastardize" it for no reason other than to change it?

But that's the exact point Murphy is trying to make. Both options AREN'T completely doable, which is why....with the info he has given us....he is trying to give us the characters we love and the story we know, but still making it believable to the general public.

 

"Reality" to the general movie going public is different that regular reality. In "Reality" Bruce Willis can take a team of oil drillers up into space to plant a nuclear weapon on an asteroid. In "Reality" aliens can come from another planet, launch hundreds of city-sized ships at the Earth, and Will Smith can save the day by piloting a spaceship that crashed at Roswell. And in "Reality" robots can come from an alien world, crash land on Earth millions of years ago, and then be awakened today so that they can continue their fight. But what Murphy thinks won't fit into "Reality" is that 20 foot tall robots can transform into objects that can fit into a bookbag. That's pushing things too far.

I guess I just don't agree. Let's hope no mutants with growing abilities appear in a movie from here on out, cause it would fall under the same category.

 

The Hulk did it fine. The hulk was 5 times the size of Banner, and to me, the CGI was fine. I didn't question the realism of it, because it's integral to the story. No one questions Mystiques ability to alter her mass to suit other morphs.

 

I think it's less important than you think.

Edit:  SFC that Salad Finger guy really gives me the creeps dude.

The pic, or did you go watch the vid? :tfgrin

There's a vid? The pic is creepy as it is. Where's the vid? I gotta see it now.