I really do despise what Michael Bay had done with transformers. In the movie, the autobots' alternate forms are everything but a disguise. Instead of being vehicles we all see on the streets everyday, we had things like a gangsta/biker-colored 18-wheeler (without the trailer, of course), a camaro that wasn't even out yet, a pick-up truck that is nothing like the original G1 version and also one most of us probably have never seen in real life, a nissan solstice that was really only put in there for advertising purposes (as were most of the vehicle forms, in fact), a 'cybertronian' jet (which was just an excuse to skimp out on an alt mode. It didn't even look like a jet in the actual movie, without even mentioning the toy). We had a helicopter that seemed to be in the middle-east one day and somehow managed to get to the middle of the U.S. in a half an hour. We had a jet that never seemed to need to refuel. A tank that, even more miraculously than the helicopter, managed to get to the middle of the U.S. in a half hour. Now we're getting pics of vehicles none of us had ever even heard of, and random ones as well, such as Soundwave who is supposed to be a satellite. I mean, yeah the original cassette tape was also a pathetic alt mode, but this really isn't an upgrade. Who would want to be a satellite? I mean, seriously? Is Bay on drugs?

 

 

Your argument has a point but full of flaws.

 

1. I'ver seen tons of 18 wheelers with kick ass paint jobs.

2. GMC Topkicks are always seen (I usually see red ones, but a black one is no different)

3. A pontiac is a very good disguise. I see plenty of pontiacs, even solstices, everywhere I go.

4. Megatron did not care for primitive disguises. Theres a G1 reference there: http://tinyurl.com/4588cx better than a Pistol I say.

5. Blackout was in the middle east yes, but most likely was on his way to America after the attack.

6. Brawl must have came from a tank depot in a national guard facility. Here in RI there's one in Warwick I see APCs and a few tanks here and there.

7. Starscream is a transformer and transformers consume energon. he most likely stocked up on energon before he came to earth, then regenerated his reserves in "reign of starscream" issue #2

8. 2008 no corvette centinials (SP?) 2009 and 2010 most likely!

9. I will agree with you, Soundwave Should not be a satellite.

 

Lets not forget, bay daid he's leaking false info.

We always see nice cars on the street and look at them. I'm pretty sure the first thing that comes to mind is that they are giant killer robots from an alien planet. I see corvettes and a few classic hotrods and camaros here and there. and the rich who live in another part of the state have mercedes, rollsroices (SP?) etc. but other than a few flaws/innacuracies, you do have somewhat of a point.

 

Well, I don't know about you, but I think that the Transformers movie is just as much an hour and a half long advertisement as it is a transformers film. Maybe some of us don't pay much attention when we see a clown 18 wheeler, but it would definitely catch my attention if I saw one rolling on the streets, followed by a camaro not released yet, a pick up truck with flames coming out of its exhaust, a hummer ambulance that's painted green (wtf?), a pontiac that was unheard of before the movie but suddenly is everywhere a year after everyone saw it on the big screen, etc.. Plus, if Prime needed to disguise himself from the Decepticons, then a flaming truck should be his last choice. On the highway, if there was a line of 18-wheelers speeding down the road, and all of them were normal-colored except this one who was blue, red, orange, and had flame decals..which one would you think Starscream or whoever would fire at first? Most of the vehicles Bay put in the film he put in just so he could earn some extra cash from the companies that payed him to use it. How do you think he came up with these alt. forms? As soon as he send out a form that he needed alt forms for movie characters, a dozen car companies all contacted him and offered him amounts of money if he only gave their vehicles screen time. He just chose the highest bidders. Because, in all honesty, a movie like this is a car company's best chance to advertise. Not only will people see their car on the big screen, but on posters for the movie, on transformer websites, on movie commercials, on the toys, and the children will see them and then buy them when they grow older. It's all planned out. SO that's why I hate Bay--because he doesn't give a damn about transformers and what they are, just the money he can make off of them. Plus, I can't believe Bay is putting the Fallen character in the second film. I mean, this is a character many of us haven't even heard of, and I wouldn't have known about the Fallen if I hadn't watched a review for the titanium figure. I mean, if Bay wanted something big and mean in the second film, why not put in Unicron? What's next?

 

Dude. The Autobots are hiding from the HUMANS> :roll & Those are too many words for a noob. :tfevil

 

QUOTE: Godziboy1993:

http://tinyurl.com/4588cx

 

This link you posted went to, "Megadrunk & his Decepticrunks", a G1 clip when the decepticons drank too much energon and couldnt fight. What did you mean to put there?

SO that's why I hate Bay--because he doesn't give a damn about transformers and what they are

 

Plus, I can't believe Bay is putting the Fallen character in the second film. I mean, this is a character many of us haven't even heard of, and I wouldn't have known about the Fallen if I hadn't watched a review for the titanium figure.

You officially fail at anger.

 

I knew who the Fallen was way before his Titanium figure came out, and I'm clinically allergic to Simon Furman.

 

*gunfire*

QUOTE: Godziboy1993:

http://tinyurl.com/4588cx

 

This link you posted went to, "Megadrunk & his Decepticrunks", a G1 clip when the decepticons drank too much energon and couldnt fight. What did you mean to put there?

 

That's the link he intended to put there. In it, Megatron commented that they could leave the planet, and give up the Earth forms that they've taken.

Who cares if you don't know who the Fallen is? You think Mr. Average Summer Movie Goer is going to be all, "OMG WHO TEH FUKK IS TEH FALLEN HE WUZNT IN GEE WUN!!!" No. They'll go for more big robots and big explosions. Hell, I still know people who swear up and down the Dinobots combined in the original cartoon. Unless one constantly researches this crap, their memories will be fuzzy at best, so they won't care if a brand new character is introduced.

Who cares if you don't know who the Fallen is? You think Mr. Average Summer Movie Goer is going to be all, "OMG WHO TEH FUKK IS TEH FALLEN HE WUZNT IN GEE WUN!!!" No. They'll go for more big robots and big explosions. Hell, I still know people who swear up and down the Dinobots combined in the original cartoon. Unless one constantly researches this crap, their memories will be fuzzy at best, so they won't care if a brand new character is introduced.

 

OMG WTF I AM NOT A G1 FANBOY!!! Heck, I wasn't even alive back then. I'm just fifteen for f's sake. All I'm saying is that Bay or whoever is behind him is using transformers as an advertisement thing (and yes, I know that the shows are all 30 minute long advertisements for the figures), and that I would prefer the alt forms for the figures to be more realistic and something we all see in everyday life. I find nothing of interest in G1--I've watched a few episodes and found them to be dull. I have some figures and have seen reviews for others, and they all suck (admit it). As for my views on other lines: Beast Wars shouldn't even be called a transformers line, machine wars and the like don't even exist for me, RID had some really great molds as well as too many repaints, Armada's playschool figures were worse than G1 figures (at least G1 had realistic alt forms), Energon had unique and special gestaults and combiners but crappy individual figures, Cybertron had a cool show and great molds, although there were several that brought back nightmares of Armada, and the movie figures had some intense durability issues and a general lack of poseability, despite having great articulation. The classics line didn't have anything but goodness, and the new Universe line has some ups and downs, but is generally on the plus side. Anyway, I haven't read any transformer comics and don't intend on doing so, and I don't think entire movies should be based on a comic character when it could instead be based on a character we all know, such as Unicron or Primus. Besides, I think it's too big of a jump going from a few skirmishes on Earth in the first film to galactic battles with million-year old devils in the second one. They should've done a galvatron or a reign of starscream theme in the second film, while maybe going for the bigger jump in the third one. :tfgrr

Who cares if you don't know who the Fallen is? You think Mr. Average Summer Movie Goer is going to be all, "OMG WHO TEH FUKK IS TEH FALLEN HE WUZNT IN GEE WUN!!!" No. They'll go for more big robots and big explosions. Hell, I still know people who swear up and down the Dinobots combined in the original cartoon. Unless one constantly researches this crap, their memories will be fuzzy at best, so they won't care if a brand new character is introduced.

 

OMG WTF I AM NOT A G1 FANBOY!!! Heck, I wasn't even alive back then. I'm just fifteen for f's sake. All I'm saying is that Bay or whoever is behind him is using transformers as an advertisement thing (and yes, I know that the shows are all 30 minute long advertisements for the figures), and that I would prefer the alt forms for the figures to be more realistic and something we all see in everyday life. I find nothing of interest in G1--I've watched a few episodes and found them to be dull. I have some figures and have seen reviews for others, and they all suck (admit it). As for my views on other lines: Beast Wars shouldn't even be called a transformers line, machine wars and the like don't even exist for me, RID had some really great molds as well as too many repaints, Armada's playschool figures were worse than G1 figures (at least G1 had realistic alt forms), Energon had unique and special gestaults and combiners but crappy individual figures, Cybertron had a cool show and great molds, although there were several that brought back nightmares of Armada, and the movie figures had some intense durability issues and a general lack of poseability, despite having great articulation. The classics line didn't have anything but goodness, and the new Universe line has some ups and downs, but is generally on the plus side. Anyway, I haven't read any transformer comics and don't intend on doing so, and I don't think entire movies should be based on a comic character when it could instead be based on a character we all know, such as Unicron or Primus. Besides, I think it's too big of a jump going from a few skirmishes on Earth in the first film to galactic battles with million-year old devils in the second one. They should've done a galvatron or a reign of starscream theme in the second film, while maybe going for the bigger jump in the third one. :tfgrr

Now, I'm not dropping the "True Fan" card here, but...Jesus Christ, you don't even like, but maybe 5% of the franchise.

 

Why get so worked up for the movie about the franchise you kinda-sorta like?

Now, I'm not dropping the "True Fan" card here, but...Jesus Christ, you don't even like, but maybe 5% of the franchise.

 

Why get so worked up for the movie about the franchise you kinda-sorta like?

 

That's what I was going to say.

 

So you're mad Bay is tarnishing the memories of the...what, ten figures you like?

 

EDIT: You're fifteen? You gotta lot of hate in you, dude. Chill out before you die of a heart attack before you're 25.

I think the "Michael Bay ruinz my childhooz!!! :nooo" is played out.

 

The fifteen year-old anger is called teenage angst. Come on...you remember that, right?

 

I wasn't into G1 when it was airing on television, but I got into when later. It still doesn't bother me that the live action version takes liberties. Things must change, I don't care what it is.

Well i think this would be cool if true! But i'll take this as salt until i see pics/vids or the movie itself.

The fifteen year-old anger is called teenage angst. Come on...you remember that, right?

 

ma baws are full to burst!