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I was just wondering, can Transformers have feelings about another Transformer and fall in love with that Transformer? Just a question......

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I feel a naughty fanfic coming on...

Have you read ransack's cyber key bio? There ya go.

Cartoon- yes

Anything written with common sense - no.

Depends on wht you look at Transformers as.  If you see them as sentient beings with "sparks/souls" and thoughts and feelings like a human yes.  If you see them as jsut robots with vague similarities to humans then no.

 

Via cartoon and comic continuity they've shown that transformers have formed semi romantic relationships with both other transformer, and in some cases alien and human characters on occasion.

Transformers certainly can fall in love. The Transformers are fully intelligent and sentient robots, capable of the full spectrum of emotions: anger, hate, greed, jealousy, sadness, joy and of course, love. There's nothing in continuity that suggests that Transformers experience lust, since lust is largely a hormonal response - lacking sex hormones, Transformers don't really fall in lust.. not sexual lust anyway. They do seem to have other forms of emotional lust, e.g.: "bloodlust" (craving for destruction) etc. - but that's more of a lust in terms of heightened passion.

 

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Remember that the Transformers have always produced asexually - even back when they could naturally reproduce on their own without having to create constructs (e.g.: Protoforms) - but it was still a mitotic asexual form of reproduction. Therefore they have no true sense of love associated with sexuality. But that's not to say that they cannot love - although love and sexuality can intermingle, they are not the same thing. Humans (and apparently dolphins too) can use sex as a form of expressing one kind of love - but sex can easily be utterly devoid of love, and there are many kinds of love that are completely unrelated to sex, e.g.: parental love, sibling love, best friendship love, mentor-student love (and I don't mean that in any inappropriate kind of way), and as some people believe, religious love (e.g.: love for God) etc.

 

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We can often see Transformers demonstrating various kinds of love.

e.g.:

* Parental Love: Alpha Trion's love for Elita One and Optimus Prime. As they both admitted, he is like a father to them; nurturing and protective.

* Mentor-Student Love: Alpha Trion is yet another example. So is Emirate Xaaron. The Decepticon cassettes arguably demonstrate a similar love for Soundwave - after all, it was the cassettes who rebuilt Soundwave as Soundblaster after he was killed by Blaster.

* Best Friendship Love: Ironhide once took a shot for Prime. You can't ask more than that from a friend. Rattrap and Dinobot also have a similar love between each other, though they masked it with their constant bickering (much like the romance between Han Solo and Leia in EpV).

* Sibling Love: Rumble and Frenzy. In Frenzy's first cartoon appearance, we see him coming to Rumble's rescue. The Car Robo brothers in Car Robot (obviously).

* Love for a Leader/Sovereign: The Dinobots really love Grimlock as their leader. They would follow him to whatever end. Optimus Prime also enjoyed a similar level of affection from a lot of his Autobots, who again, happily followed him without question

* Love for a God (religious devotion): Most Transformers never cared about their Gods until they discovered the existence and approach of Unicron - and even then, they only cared because they were facing their impending doom. There are only two Transformers I can think of one who has demonstrated true religious faith: Bludgeon. Although his religious interpretation was ultimately proven wrong, he had devoted his entire life to a discipline based on said religious beliefs.

...obviously there are many other kinds of love, and many more canonical examples (Transformers SPAM does not, since that technically does not occur in canon) but these are just a few.

 

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But in the end, I think the main kind of love that we're looking at here, is close intimate interpersonal love. This is the kind of love that exists when you find another being whom you utterly love - someone who you care for more than yourself and whose company improves the quality of your life and through loving them, gives you a higher purpose and meaning in life.

 

There's no reason why a Transformer - a living and sentient robot - cannot feel this form of love.

 

Remember that Transformers don't have any true genders. The concept of "gender" for Transformers, unlike humans, is purely cosmetic. It's largely based on the asthetic design of their humanoid robot mode, voice and persona. Although the cartoon has often thrown the words "female" (and thus by default "male") Transformers around, it is actually technically inaccurate. What we really have are feminine and masculine Transformers. This means that a Transformer's gender is not determined by the set of genitals which they possess, but by the cosmetic and socio-psychological personality traits in which they exhibit.

 

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So, as mentioned before, whenever two Transformers form a close intimate interpersonal bond, then they achieve the romantic equivalent of our romantic definition of "love."

 

And since Transformers are genderless, yes, it does redefine the nature of a "straight" or "gay" Transformer... since the difference would only be separated by a Transformer's preference in a partner's cosmetic robot mode shape, voice modulation and persona (masc vs femn). There's nothing in canon to suggest that any hard-wired preference exists in Transformers, as we have had examples of both "straight" (e.g.: Silverbolt and Blackarachnia) and "gay" (e.g.: Tigatron and Airazar - no, not Airazor, Airazar) Transformer relationships. And regardless of which version of BW you follow, Tigatron and Airazor/Airazar achieved the ultimate spiritual union in the form of Tigerhawk.

 

Intimate love for Transformers seem to be something based largely on a mental/psychological attraction between personalities, rather than any physical attraction. Coupled with the fact that a Transformer's intimate romantic love is irrelevant to any desire of sexual lust, it is far more easier and plausible for a Transformer to experience intimate romantic love with a member of another species (e.g.: aliens, humans). Examples of Transformers who have formed close bonds with non-Cybertronians include Powerglide, Seaspray and Skids.

 

As for why... remember that science fiction is supposed to be a reflection on humanity... although these Transformers are alien robots, they fundamentally serve as metaphors for ourselves.

 

Oh, and last but not least... just like humans, Transformers also seem capable of incestual love - like the extremely complicated relationship between Optimus Prime and Elita One... they were once boyfriend/girlfriend, reborn by the same creator whom they both consider to be a "father" figure... which makes them kinda like siblings... and yet they still hold strong affections for each other... eeww... this is almost as uncomfortable as watching Leia kiss Luke ever since Return of the Jedi came out... hoo-boy. :P :P

Depends on wht you look at Transformers as.  If you see them as sentient beings with "sparks/souls" and thoughts and feelings like a human yes.  If you see them as jsut robots with vague similarities to humans then no.

Not true.

 

I beleive in the soul/spark thing and believe they can love, in the sense of caring, but they can not fall IN love, because that is something totally different.

There's just no biological need to.

 

At least not until the Beast era, which is still a maybe.

wellll watch for chromia's ractions through out the later eps of cybertron, also, cybertron downshifts bio says he lost his lifepartner...

 

*EDIT*

from hasbro's site... this is downshift's cyber key unlock stuff, if you don't wanna see it don't clikc on the spoiler.

 

 

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Downshift has found some new peace on Earth. When the evacuation of Cybertron took place – he was separated from his fembot lifebond partner. They had just been joined together under the covenant of Primus and were looking forward to spending some time in the Crystal Cities. The evacuation occurred and tore the two of them apart. On Earth, Downshift spent every waking hour looking through every “Robot in Disguise� staging base to locate his lifebond partner. Soon enough, they found one another and were ordered by Optimus Prime to begin their Earth assimilation in a small town south of Providence, RI. There, Downshift found a peace he never had on Cybertron during the great wars. After the struggle ended, Downshift and his lifebond partner stayed on Earth as envoys of Cybertron.

transformers can fall in love. Brotherly love is ultimately shown between Sideswipe and sunstreaker romantic love in beast machines and bw with silverbolt, blackarachnia

 

even lust has made an appearence between cheetor and BA in the later bw episodes

if youve ever seen bw or bm youd think they could. even some episodes of g1.

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