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a topic about nationality stereotypes

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If G1 didn't depend of Stereotypes then the writers would actualy have to be creative :eek

Did the writers determine the characters' accents?

My initial thought would be ..... NO.

 

By the way X-Bob, Whether they were to your liking or not, a lot of the G1 shows had quite a bit of imagination.  Otherwise how would they come up with all those WTF episodes you like to rip on?

 

writer #1: we need an explanation of how where unicron came from.

writer #2: hmm, maybe a creature?

writer #1: good idea, but what kind of creature?

writer #2: *looks at star wars episode 5*, what about that yoda character?

writer #1: but he's already used in star wars.

writer #2: so we just change him, so nobody'll recognise him.

writer #1: yes, yes, excellent idea. you're brilliant!

 

*they begin to write call of the primitives*

 

nuff said'd!

it's a most likely fact that if call of the primatives wasn't the best animated show in tf history then it wouldn't be liked so much.

I always felt the illustration style on that episode was too anime...

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Well, would not know too much about the stereotypes but I do not mind an accent now and then.

 

G1 had pretty imaginative stories. Ok, some were really bad but that is what you get when you try to be imaginative. Some things work and some are best forgotten.

 

The last 3 shows have all been about find the Mini-Con/Energon/Planet key which get a tad boring.

 

G1 had some awful storylines but one never knew what to expect. Of course that was before everyone had internet.  :tftongue

 

Personally I like Steve Irwin a lot. He has a great heart and loves nature. So that makes  him allright in my book.

Cosmos is meant to be Russian. Mike McConnohie, his voice actor, said that it was meant to be a Russian accent. He was also the voice actor for Tracks and described Tracks' accent as being an upper-class American accent, aka the "Harvard Lockjaw."

 

Well, would not know too much about the stereotypes but I do not mind an accent now and then.

Well, you can't help but not have an accent. Everybody on this planet speaks with an accent... aside from the mute. I suppose what matters more in films and TV is put-on accents, i.e.: where actors use an accent that isn't their own. Some actors do it a lot better than others. For example, the guy who plays Spike on Buffy... very authentic English accent, I was quite surprised to learn that the actor is an American. Ewan McGregor is also fantastic at doing accents; his natural accent is Scottish (as can be heard in Trainspotting) but he can also do English (e.g.: Star Wars) and American (Black Hawk Down). And of course, there's Mike Myers many accents throughout his comedy career, including Austin Powers, Dr. Evil, Fat Bastard, Goldmember etc.

 

Transformers voice actors... generally don't do as well in terms of sounding authentic. As much as I love David Kaye's Megatron voice, it's not a completely authentic English accent. Perceptor's accent is reasonably close to an English accent, but again, not perfect. Outback's Australian accent is obviously fake, but I appreciate the voice actor making an effort to sound authentically Australian. Onslaught has one of the most authentic sounding English accents amongst all the Transformer voices. Canadian actors seem pretty good at doing American voices - e.g.: Scott McNeil, Garry Chalk.

 

Star Wars fans have been plagued by an inability for American voice actors to produce New Zealand accents for the Clone Troopers. All the Clones in the Clone Wars cartoons and Battlefront II (except for the cut-scene narrations, which were done by Temuera Morrison) sound more American than Kiwi. It really irks me when individual Clone characters like Cody sound American in the cartoon, but have a New Zealander accent in Episode III ("Come on, whin hev I iver lit you down?").

 

G1 had pretty imaginative stories. Ok, some were really bad but that is what you get when you try to be imaginative. Some things work and some are best forgotten.

Um, no, that's what you get from poor and lazy story writing. Transformers has always had pretty imaginative stories, but the better ones are ones that are just genuinely better written -- e.g.: Furman vs Budiansky.

 

The last 3 shows have all been about find the Mini-Con/Energon/Planet key which get a tad boring.

Yeah, I'd like to see a new story that doesn't revolve around the Pokémon concept of "Gotta Catch 'Em All!"

 

G1 had some awful storylines but one never knew what to expect. Of course that was before everyone had internet.  bumblebeetounge.gif

No, I've long been a critic of the G1 cartoon - long before the internet. When I was in high school, I remember some of my peers asking me why  I was into something supposedly as "childish" as Transformers. Most people weren't genuinely interested in my answer, but to those who would listen, I explained to them that G1 canon started before and beyond the cartoon and how the Marvel comics story had always been better and aimed at a more mature audience. I remember spending half a lesson explaining to a bunch of my classmates about Primus, the Matrix and Transformers theology in general. All this in an age where your modem's top speed would be 8k for connecting onto a local BBS.

 

Btw, please distinguish yourself when talking about the G1 cartoon or comics. When you say that "G1 had some awful storylines," it makes it sound like you're also criticising the comics... please be more specific in future.

 

Personally I like Steve Irwin a lot. He has a great heart and loves nature. So that makes  him allright in my book.

Great heart when he's not dangling his own baby in front of a crocodile. :P

I suppose what really irritates me about Steve Irwin is that, from what I've been told, a lot Americans see him as a typical Australian. He's not. Especially that fcuked up bumpkin accent of his.

 

We do not talk like that... not most of us. Irwin speaks in what is known as a broad Australian accent, otherwise known as "'strine" (abbreviation of their pronunciation of 'Australian' as "Austrine"). Socio-culturally speaking, it's the equivalent of a corn-fed Kansas/Alabama accent is to Americans. To think that Australians speak like Steve Irwin is to think that all Americans talk like Forrest Gump.

 

Hugh Jackman (X-Men's Wolverine), Hugo Weaving (The Matrix's Agent Smith & LotR's Elrond) and Nicole Kidman have more normal Australian accents.

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