so whats the whole fandome obsession with bludgeon then?

(and what did he turn into when not a pretender?)

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the little nondescript robot inside him turned into a tank... of sorts

You are kidding me right?? This guy is rediculous!

You are kidding me right?? This guy is rediculous!

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In the comic he was kind of kick ass (a lot of "kind of" btw) and even made Decepticon leader -- although honestly, I don't know why. In the DW Armada series he was also great.

 

The toy was, however, absolutely ridiculous! The tank isn't bad looking and it might scare a micromaster. (I do like the colors of the robot, though. Probably my most favorite part of this figure  :tflaugh .) The pretender shell really isn't anything special.

 

Most pretenders were lame IMO. The monsters and the transport/combiners (like Thunderwing) were alright as far as disguises go. But those humans? Nah.

 

I always wondered why they didn't pretend to be other TF's, with the shell resembling another TF (maybe even one from the opposing side), but on the inside a completely different TF. (e.g. Grimlock could get a shell that looked like Bumblebee).

You are kidding me right?? This guy is rediculous!

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In the comic he was kind of kick ass (a lot of "kind of" btw) and even made Decepticon leader -- although honestly, I don't know why. In the DW Armada series he was also great.

 

The toy was, however, absolutely ridiculous! The tank isn't bad looking and it might scare a micromaster. (I do like the colors of the robot, though. Probably my most favorite part of this figure  :tflaugh .) The pretender shell really isn't anything special.

 

Most pretenders were lame IMO. The monsters and the transport/combiners (like Thunderwing) were alright as far as disguises go. But those humans? Nah.

 

I always wondered why they didn't pretend to be other TF's, with the shell resembling another TF (maybe even one from the opposing side), but on the inside a completely different TF. (e.g. Grimlock could get a shell that looked like Bumblebee).

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I am not sure how a giant Robot disguising himself as a giant monster is much of a disguise....

 

Godzilla kind of attracts attention to himself.

 

Just saying is all.

and story wise - i totally agree with your thoughts on pretending to be other bots.

but i guess that idea didnt sell happy meals.

 

along those lines - the idea of rubsigns didnt make sense either.  Rub his leg to see his true allegience.

As if figures like prime or megatron were ambiguous in anyway.

Any discussion on the coolness of Pretenders comes to a screeching halt at this point:

I am not sure how a giant Robot disguising himself as a giant monster is much of a disguise....

 

Godzilla kind of attracts attention to himself.

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True, but I'm not thinking along those lines.

 

If you're an Autobot (on Earth) and you see a giant monster, you think it's a giant monsters...and suddenly a TF pops out. That would work (like, once). If you're Decepticon and you see a giant human (on Earth or elsewhere), you just know that's something fishy...

along those lines - the idea of rubsigns didnt make sense either.

The rub signs were a tactic that HasTak adopted to fight the rampant TF bootlegging that was occuring back them.  The thought was they were too expensive for the bootleggers to bother reproducting and a way to know if you were getting an "authentic" Transformer.

along those lines - the idea of rubsigns didnt make sense either.

The rub signs were a tactic that HasTak adopted to fight the rampant TF bootlegging that was occuring back them.  The thought was they were too expensive for the bootleggers to bother reproducting and a way to know if you were getting an "authentic" Transformer.

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I thought it was there b/c of Gobots..... which would be kind of ballsy since Gobots came out first.

Thunderwing is by far the best pretender IMO

I am not sure how a giant Robot disguising himself as a giant monster is much of a disguise....

 

Godzilla kind of attracts attention to himself.

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True, but I'm not thinking along those lines.

 

If you're an Autobot (on Earth) and you see a giant monster, you think it's a giant monsters...and suddenly a TF pops out. That would work (like, once). If you're Decepticon and you see a giant human (on Earth or elsewhere), you just know that's something fishy...

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But if an autobot saw a giant skeleton samurai destroying a city - he wouldnt stand back and say "well its not a decepticon - carry on - Oh HOLEY SH*** - thats a decepticon?!?!?!?"

 

along those lines - the idea of rubsigns didnt make sense either.

The rub signs were a tactic that HasTak adopted to fight the rampant TF bootlegging that was occuring back them.  The thought was they were too expensive for the bootleggers to bother reproducting and a way to know if you were getting an "authentic" Transformer.

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I know WHY they did it. but the reasoning they gave the "characters" was lame.

 

Hunter