But that actually makes it harder to tell if a toy has been played with before when someone claims it's MIP...just my opinion.

I would've voted Takara based on Armada/Micron. Then Hasbro overtook them based on Energon/Superlink.

 

Until I saw Energon Hot Shot by both companies.

 

Thank you, Takara, for understanding goldenrod does NOT go with silver. You get my vote.

Hasbro, reasons here: http://behold_galvatron.tripod.com/beholdg...srealm/id3.html

 

Now for J Anderson...

Cost should hardly be an issue. Especially importer prices. Takara has no control over that, pelase stop reaching for excuses.

 

That's an excuse right there. Most fans live in the US so we have no choice but to pay importers, so unless we hop a plane to Japan we have no choice....As for marking up prices, yeah importers do but not that much. Take away a few dollars of markup and the Takara products will STILL be more than the Hasbro ones. And that's without shipping as well...

 

I've never had a loose Takara joint. Or a bad paint app. Meanwhile, I had to dig through about 30 Hasbro reissue Prowls to find one that didn't either have a bad paint flake or a fingerprint smudge.

 

Good for you. Doesn't mean it never happens. I got SL Nightscream this week and he had sloppy paint, a crooked spark crystal, chipped paint on his lower leg and his backpack wasn't as secure as the Energon version

 

At least with Hasbro you can exchange items, I'm unfortunetly stuck with this turd (its sad too as I really like the SL scheme better than Energon's)

 

And I don't know about you, but in my home reality, metal is stronger than plastic. However, if you can show me this miracle plastic that's harder than steel, please, do so.

 

:tfhuh

Paint doesn't chip on plastic. Still metal is better, just not twice the price of an Alt better. Plastic is a good substitute and doesn't have chipping problems

 

Hasbro could have disabled all the reissue launchers from the start, but rather than admit they have a collector following, they gave us big safety parts. And short stacks had many ways around that... and I do not buy Archer's BS story about how softer plastic can't be chromed. Please, obtain the 12" ultimate Jango Fett made by Hasbro. Please tell me his guns are not soft chrome plastic... and you can't as they are soft chrome plastic the same length as the Takara stacks.

 

And how many people care about these so called issues? Not as many as you'd like to think...Prime is selling just fine here. "short stacks"? Give me a break, the best version of Prime comes out and you're worried about how big his smokestacks are? Shows how much free time YOU have....

 

Drop tests.... just a roundabout way of saying "we want to save some money on production". I doubt they ever considered releasing Fort Max.

 

You know this how? Hasbro probably considered it and did some research to detrimine there wasn't a great enough market for it along with safety reasons. If there was enough demand it would have been released as no sane company turns down the chance for profit and considering Hasbro is a Top 5 toy company I think they would know what they are doing alot more than you :wave

 

They probably avoided a ML Unicron flop that Takara endured. Thats why Takara shrank the Galvatron mold BTW because it would sell better there in a smaller size.

 

And Hasbro doesn't want to cater to collectors. At all. Hence why these toys are not marketed as adult collectibles. Ever. They have this stupid idea that if not everything is marketed towards kids, it will pollute the line. Heh. A weak mythos that maybe Simon Furman cares about, and a series of toy liens that will lose one group of buyers and pick up another with each series... yeah, I can see a strong story polluting this line. Like it would hurt sales any. They don't even want to give us a story for Alternators.

 

Why should they want to? Hate to break this to you, but the collector market here is much smaller compared to JP. Takara can cater because there is enough support there....and if you don't buy that look at how well TRU reissues are selling and no its not because they got changed up a little. Internet fans might know (and care) about that but the typical fan doesn't. Also look at MOTU. It catered ENTIRELY to fans and look how well its doing...

 

As for the kids, DUH, of course they want to market it for kids. They want to get new fans into the franchise and raise profits with more consumers. What's wrong with that? Why shouldn't they try and sell Alts and 20th Primes to kids as well as collectors. They'd be stupid to try and cut off a potiental market. If they made Alts and Prime adult collector's items, that means no TRU, Target WM, etc and that means less product for distribution.

 

They gave a story for Universe and that's a repaint line. Alts they probably didn't want to create any continuity for it and leave it up to fans what the story is

 

And why shuld Takara release stuff to please the US market? They have Hasbro for that. They shrunk Megatron for a REASON. If you're too dense to see that, then there's no hope for you. I see enough people whining about toys they don't buy anyway, shows how much free time some people have.

 

Really? What "reason" would that be? To have him more in scale with Prime:

 

 

 

Or maybe with Scorponok?

 

 

 

:tflaugh :tflaugh :tflaugh

 

Oh and BTW Energon is animated in JAPAN so that means Takara did plan to have him large in the first place....

 

Now let's see you respond to this without your "racist fanboy" BS you come up with and I'll really be impressed :thumb

you do know scorponok is kneeling in that pic don't you? PRIME's TOY IS OVERSIZED

i have to agree, look at this pic

lets see is starscream an ultra umm.....no! prime is too small on the show. which makes the superlink galvatron da right one.

 

 

pic from bwtf.com

Who cares about scale? Sure, bigger is better, but Transformers were never made in scale with each other.

i have to agree, look at this pic

 

lets see is starscream an ultra umm.....no! prime is too small on the show. which makes the superlink galvatron da right one.

 

Uh no as....

 

Prime's CLEARLY hunched up in that pic, even so he's still bigger than SS. Either way, the point is in the show, Megs is NEVER shown to be smaller than SM Prime. That's the scale that counts. And since E Megs and SM Prime can match up to each other, E Megs is obviously more acc

Behold Galvatron, am i wrong in thinking you hate Takara Transformers?

Its not so much hate of them, just that I hate how they get so much praise by the fandom at large for their efforts while Hasbro just seems to get sneered on most of the time even through for the prices they offer, they put just as much effort and concern into their products if not more so in listening to the fans. They just don't get the credit they deserve while Takara gets too much credit, especially for smaller stuff (stacks, diecast on BTs even through it shoots the price up to twice an alt, etc).

Its not so much hate of them, just that I hate how they get so much praise by the fandom at large for their efforts while Hasbro just seems to get sneered on most of the time even through for the prices they offer, they put just as much effort and concern into their products

I agree with BG on almost all counts. The only thing I feel Takara does better are the reissues. Not because of "original accuracy" or what not, but I do like the springs in my launchers and the fact that changes don't have to be made due to new toy regulations. I don't bash hasbro for the changes, because I understand why they do them, but I go Takara boxsets all the way. Plus they're numbered so it's like an addiction! And a good way for me to practice my growing knowledge of the japanese language...so maybe I'm biased :D

 

-Turbine

I prefer BG's constructive criticism of Takara to Bodycount's illogical anti-G1 tirades. Even though I tend to prefer Takara to Hasbro myself! *hides from eggs and vegetables being thrown*

i prefer takara as we in the UK are completely screwed by HasbroHasbroHasbroHasbroHasbro:UK

our town was built by a princess of England one of our Kings was born and raised here yet still we get the same tfs in every delivery the first wave repeated over and over hell it isnt unusual to see an entire shelf filled with the same toys for months (i know because i did the indent card test (put a mark on box with fingernail in an inconspicuous place) and the stores failed to change their stocks)

 

HASBLOWITOUTOFYERTAILPIPE:UK is behind so far on its releases i doubt OMEGA SUPREME will be in England by chrismas plus for the american and canadian fans check out hasbro.co.uk for an example of dont give a sh** website!!