Nortagem, If you reread my post, I did agree that using Deluxe and Scout class bot may have worked. It's just using Deluxe, Voyager and Leader class figures that can't.

Nortagem, If you reread my post, I did agree that using Deluxe and Scout class bot may have worked. It's just using Deluxe, Voyager and Leader class figures that can't.

Tramp, I know we're never gonna agree on the Deluxes/Voyagers scenario...but I was a little discouraged after seeing "As for doing Scouts and two Deluxes, that might have worked, but then again, it might not." My immediate reaction was, "Come on Tramp, we both know the Scouts/Deluxes combination would absolutely work!" But I felt like you wanted to continue arguing about the larger combination & child safety standards...and believe me, I completely know how you feel about that concept! ;) I'm over us not agreeing on the larger combination...just thought we could move on to a more constructive discussion of a 'mid-sized' combination with Scouts and Deluxes...

 

And after seeing the latest news of these Power Core Combiners...I'm even more puzzled with Hasbro's decisions to take such a HUGE leap from Supreme to Legends...? Running out of plastic are we? :D But that's sorta getting away from the discussion in regards to this Constructicon thread...

The problem is when they combine. The Deluxes and Voyagers are much more complex than a Legends class figure, which makes them more fragile. As a Deluxe or Voyager, they're fine for passing things like the drop test. However, combine them, and the weight of the combined figure would be too much for the individual figures to support and results in an overly fragile Supreme class figure. It wouldn't pass the drop tests. They'd break too easily.

It's not a matter of packaging. It's a matter of child safety. It's the same reason why Hasbro can't rerelease Fortress Maximus. He can't pass the drop test. A RotF Devastator made form deluxe and Voyager class figures would have the same problem. The complexity would make him too fragile to either support its weight or pass the drop test.

It's not a matter of packaging. It's a matter of child safety. It's the same reason why Hasbro can't rerelease Fortress Maximus. He can't pass the drop test. A RotF Devastator made form deluxe and Voyager class figures would have the same problem. The complexity would make him too fragile to either support its weight or pass the drop test.

I must not understand the drop test because I don't see how those big Lego sets can pass it once they're fully assembled. It seems like they'd shatter into hundreds of pieces.

And the Legos are all packaged together. The Constructicons could be sold separately.

Here's the TF Wiki page onChild Safety Laws and how they apply to Transformers:. To quote:

 

Hasbro has several tests that come up frequently. One of the more famous ones is the "drop test." As its name implies, this involves dropping a toy from great heights in order to ascertain whether or not said toy will break, and if any of the parts which may have broken loose could potentially injure a child (sharp edges, swallowable/chokeable bits, etc.).

 

If a toy cannot pass this test, as well as others, it can't be sold in the US.

thats alot to be force fed seeing the LEGO argument...

LEGO® block constructions won't break into sharp fragments. They'll simply separate back into individual blocks. Thus, they pass the tests. And they're not designed for children under 3 anyway. If you were to drop a Supreme class Devastator made up of fully transforming bots, then it could break into sharp fragments that could injure a child. It's not the same thing as a LEGO® set.

Just a quick note here, we don't need a size comparison argument going on in multiple threads. I think that topic has been discussed enough :)

You might break them if you stomp on them, yes, but not from simply dropping a construction made from them. That's what I'm talking about. As for the drop test, which is only one part of the breakage testing, yes, it would have to pass while combined. The TF Wiki page I linked to previously has a link to a PDF detailing the child safety laws including the drop test, properly known as the Impact test. The other tests include Compression, Flexiure, and Torque. The actual page can be found here.

What if you take a long thin Lego piece and load up the two ends with a ton of other Lego pieces, so it looks kind of like a barbell. Then if you drop it all that weight on the sides could cause it to snap into sharp edges.

More likely, the other lego pieces on the ends would pop off before then. Ultimately, you're going well beyond what the standards of the drop test with your scenario.

 

Aren't the small Lego blocks chokable pieces?

For a child under three, yes, That's why LEGO® blocks are specifically marked not for children under three years old. Transformers have the same warning label on them.