This thread is easily in the land of David Willis

 

The thread alone is a perfect representation of Starscream and fans :tflaugh

No, so far there isnt any creepy pics or fics about him kissing Megatron/Another Seeker/Unicron/or Mary Sue

 

The thread alone is a perfect representation of Starscream and fans :tflaugh

No, so far there isnt any creepy pics or fics about him kissing Megatron/Another Seeker/Unicron/or Mary Sue

I like how you specify "so far" ... it's kind of inevitible isn't it? haha

yes, but not Starscream-awesome. There's a difference. All they needed to do was change his name and there would've been no conflict.

From you, but then someone else out there would have complained that there was no Starscream. Ans if they made one that looked like the cartoon, someone would have complained that he wasn't more original. You can't please everyone...

 

"Wasn't more original"? Where the fuck were these complaints about Optimus Prime, Jazz, and Shockwave? Oh they don't exist? Of course not! NOBODY is stupid enough to complain about lack of originality when that obviously means they don't know jack crap about TFs and tradition. They would be wrong and thus pleasing them is not important!

 

John you make a lot of sense their, but I don't think Lord Atmo will listen. even though he is in the minority about movie Starscream

 

and Lord Atmo, there is no conflict. Movie Starscream is Starscream. Like movie Ironhide is Ironhide

 

 

Bullshit! Ironhide's appearance was designed to complement his personality. Starscream's was NOT! And minority or not, I'm still right. The proof is in my sig. If you made a compilation image with the 3 TFs I listed earlier, you would see a smooth uninterrupted pattern. Make one with Megatron or Ironhide and you'll see that the design changes EVERY TIME! and thus there's no pattern binding the characters! The movie is NOT G1, but it STILL has to follow tradition just like every other TF media that was also not G1.

 

THAT is how you can see where shit goes wrong

John you make a lot of sense their, but I don't think Lord Atmo will listen. even though he is in the minority about movie Starscream

 

and Lord Atmo, there is no conflict. Movie Starscream is Starscream. Like movie Ironhide is Ironhide

 

 

Bullshit! Ironhide's appearance was designed to complement his personality. Starscream's was NOT! And minority or not, I'm still right.

 

And that is according to you, which in the end doesn't matter. Hasbro said its Starscream so it is Starscream.

 

Plus I like movie Starscream way more then that animated thing which is not Starscream in my opinion ;)

 

Sorry but your only problem is the aesthetics, so this easily goes no where, if you were to read the comics you would see that movie Starscream acts like G1 Starscream. he even does it in ROTF. You chose to ignore because you don;t like how he looks.

I'll give you the bad design on the toys, except for the Leader Class figure, that one is awesome.

 

But seriously check out David Willis :P

No, actions are a moot point when he can't smirk. The smirk is PART of the SS persona. Since he does not and CANNOT smirk in the comics and ROTF, then he is NOT STARSCREAM!

 

The pattern was crushed, that is NOT acceptable! I don't give a flying fuck WHO says it's Starscream, he isn't! Not when less popular TFs got homage royalties he was denied unfairly. Actions DON'T make up for that!

 

The more he acts like SS, the bigger an insult it is!

 

Sig image says Animated SS flows with the rest of the pattern. He looks also acts a lot like him. Sorry but that's enough to pass him off as SS. The large chin is as minor of a change as Armada SS's slightly different helmet. No problems here!

No, actions are a moot point when he can't smirk. The smirk is PART of the SS persona. Since he does not and CANNOT smirk in the comics and ROTF, then he is NOT STARSCREAM!

 

That is lame, sorry Lord Atmo. in the end you have a very weak argument, especially with the inability to smirk? LOL

 

It was fun, but its Starscream

 

later man LOL

No...He isn't. My sig image keeps my argument strong.

 

But you choose to ignore that because you're in denial. Defending him with...How he acts? How does THAT support the tradition??!

No...He isn't. My sig image keeps my argument strong.

 

But you choose to ignore that because you're in denial. Defending him with...How he acts? How does THAT support the tradition??!

Your tradition argument is useless also

After G2 we had Machine Wars Starscream, who looked and was not like G1 Starscream. In Armada Starscream turned blue. He hasn't been an F-16 since G2. he doesn't cower like he used to either.

 

 

I'm a G1 purist Lord Atmo, plain and simple

I view the movieverse as its own continuity with no bearing on G1. I enjoy the designs and many of the toys. As they are more designed towards adults and they have a fresh feel

 

Now you saying that the movie Starscream, doesn't look like the rest the of the Starscream's is you in denial of refusing to accept him

Its like saying movie Bumblebee isn't Bumblebee because he doesn't transform in a Volkswagen Beetle

Okay, I've just GOT to ask, for the sake of my personal curiosity, Lord_Onslaught,

 

If Michael Bay came to you and showed you a better Movie Starscream design; one that that not only embodies what's cool about the movie robots, but also looked a little more... "Classic", would you turn it down?

 

Cuz, in my opinion, Yeah, Movie Starscream is... not bad? But there is room for improvement, and anywhere there is room for improvement, I see no reason not to strive for that, and no reason not to request it. :P