Yes, that is precisely my point, megatronemesis. And it's exactly why I will continue to post other versions in this thread as long as it's worth doing so. Tramp will just have to ignore the topic or learn that he doesn't control everything.

Is there a way to position the arms in this mode such that they click or snap together nicely?

Yes, there is.

When transforming it to jet mode, raise the arms over the head, rotate the right arm so that the cavity for the blade is facing inwards and the then rotate the left arm so that the trigger is facing outwards, then bring the shoulders together and lock the left arm into the cavity in the right arm. If you arrange the arms like in this picture, they hold together pretty nicely. You can't "lock" them together as if there were dedicated pegs and holes to secure them, but they hold together pretty well regardless.

 

i'm digging your version, and i find that if you turn the waist around, the front treads are able to tug in more "aerodynamically", and there's less gap on the back between the tank cover and the legs. :tfpwn good job!

my Version of this transformation, has the arms the way everyone does, but I spin the waist and have the treads pointed up.. some clever transforming you'll have his pegs fit the same way as originally just upside down. The bonus of having him this way you can take his "toe" treads put them as you would his heels and have some landing Struts in jet mode, with his face shield working as his front "gear"

Overall, I love the look.

Is there a way to position the arms in this mode such that they click or snap together nicely?

Yes, there is.

When transforming it to jet mode, raise the arms over the head, rotate the right arm so that the cavity for the blade is facing inwards and the then rotate the left arm so that the trigger is facing outwards, then bring the shoulders together and lock the left arm into the cavity in the right arm. If you arrange the arms like in this picture, they hold together pretty nicely. You can't "lock" them together as if there were dedicated pegs and holes to secure them, but they hold together pretty well regardless.

 

i'm digging your version, and i find that if you turn the waist around, the front treads are able to tug in more "aerodynamically", and there's less gap on the back between the tank cover and the legs. :tfpwn good job!

Yeah, I've tried that. The main problem with it is that you can't plug the posts in the wings into the holes in the rear tread assemblies. At least I can't. The upper edge of the treads prevents the wing from closing fully and plugging into the holes in the sides of the tread assemblies. As a result, the wings can't lock into place thus preventing full structural integrity. It also means that the treads can't act as proper landing gear since they sit higher than the belly of the jet mode. You are correct that it does fill in the gap in the back end, which is certainly more aesthetically pleasing. I prefer to leave the treads in their proper orientation. The gap between the wings and treads doesn't adversely affect aerodynamics. It actually enhances it because it provides a longer air foil along the wings. Aesthetically, there's very little difference though unless you look at it from behind since the wing assembly position doesn't change. The gap in the back isn't as important to me as the structural cohesion of the alternate mode as a whole. If you can get the posts to plug in with the legs rotated around backwards though, more power to you.

Aerodynamics??? Tramp do you throw your TF's out the window to test if they can fly or something? NOne of my TFs can fly in reality, so it doesn't matter to me

Aerodynamics??? Tramp do you throw your TF's out the window to test if they can fly or something? NOne of my TFs can fly in reality, so it doesn't matter to me

 

 

Also, aerodynamics don't come into play in the vaccuum of space, right? I consider this Megatron jet mode to be mainly designed for space travel...

No, I don't throw my toys out the window. However, these are supposed to "represent" full-sized functional vehicles, which means aerodynamics do need to be a consideration for any flying vehicle modes. Secondly, Megatron's Cybertronian Jet mode is not just a space craft, It's a jet, and aircraft, that is why it needs to be aerodynamic. Even if it were designed "primarily" for space, it still needs to be aerodynamic in order to get to space from the ground through the atmosphere, and to get to ground from space. Either way, it has to be aerodynamic. The only type of spacecraft that don't ned aerodynamics are ones which are completely incapable of atmospheric travel, such as satellites, which are deployed from rockets. Megatron's flight mode has to be aerodynamic because it is an atmospheric capable vehicle.

 

 

 

Kai2698, Primus-feather, I was messing around with my Megatron last night after I got off line and discovered something that takes care of the gap in the back without having to twist the waist around backwards. Normally, in tank mode, the upper legs are tilted slightly downward to accommodate the right arm. As such, in jet mode, if they're left in that position, there's this big gap in the back. However, you can close that gap by simply tilting the upper legs upwards one click with the treads and wings already connected. It keeps the treads in their proper position, but raises the angle of the "thrusters" made out of the upper legs and thus fills up that gap.

I don't know why there has to be a debate. I just love the playability of this mold.

Yeah, I've tried that. The main problem with it is that you can't plug the posts in the wings into the holes in the rear tread assemblies. At least I can't. The upper edge of the treads prevents the wing from closing fully and plugging into the holes in the sides of the tread assemblies. As a result, the wings can't lock into place thus preventing full structural integrity. It also means that the treads can't act as proper landing gear since they sit higher than the belly of the jet mode. You are correct that it does fill in the gap in the back end, which is certainly more aesthetically pleasing. I prefer to leave the treads in their proper orientation. The gap between the wings and treads doesn't adversely affect aerodynamics. It actually enhances it because it provides a longer air foil along the wings. Aesthetically, there's very little difference though unless you look at it from behind since the wing assembly position doesn't change. The gap in the back isn't as important to me as the structural cohesion of the alternate mode as a whole. If you can get the posts to plug in with the legs rotated around backwards though, more power to you.

 

well, the stablization of the wings isn't an issue for me. i actually have the back wings folded 60 degree down and front wings about 45 degrees up so it has a kind of "x-wing" look to it.

 

 

Kai2698, Primus-feather, I was messing around with my Megatron last night after I got off line and discovered something that takes care of the gap in the back without having to twist the waist around backwards. Normally, in tank mode, the upper legs are tilted slightly downward to accommodate the right arm. As such, in jet mode, if they're left in that position, there's this big gap in the back. However, you can close that gap by simply tilting the upper legs upwards one click with the treads and wings already connected. It keeps the treads in their proper position, but raises the angle of the "thrusters" made out of the upper legs and thus fills up that gap.

 

i tried that, but i didn't like how the "thrusters" are in an angle. :tfpwn

 

nice paint job btw

Yeah, I've tried that. The main problem with it is that you can't plug the posts in the wings into the holes in the rear tread assemblies. At least I can't. The upper edge of the treads prevents the wing from closing fully and plugging into the holes in the sides of the tread assemblies. As a result, the wings can't lock into place thus preventing full structural integrity. It also means that the treads can't act as proper landing gear since they sit higher than the belly of the jet mode. You are correct that it does fill in the gap in the back end, which is certainly more aesthetically pleasing. I prefer to leave the treads in their proper orientation. The gap between the wings and treads doesn't adversely affect aerodynamics. It actually enhances it because it provides a longer air foil along the wings. Aesthetically, there's very little difference though unless you look at it from behind since the wing assembly position doesn't change. The gap in the back isn't as important to me as the structural cohesion of the alternate mode as a whole. If you can get the posts to plug in with the legs rotated around backwards though, more power to you.

 

well, the stablization of the wings isn't an issue for me. i actually have the back wings folded 60 degree down and front wings about 45 degrees up so it has a kind of "x-wing" look to it.

 

 

Kai2698, Primus-feather, I was messing around with my Megatron last night after I got off line and discovered something that takes care of the gap in the back without having to twist the waist around backwards. Normally, in tank mode, the upper legs are tilted slightly downward to accommodate the right arm. As such, in jet mode, if they're left in that position, there's this big gap in the back. However, you can close that gap by simply tilting the upper legs upwards one click with the treads and wings already connected. It keeps the treads in their proper position, but raises the angle of the "thrusters" made out of the upper legs and thus fills up that gap.

 

i tried that, but i didn't like how the "thrusters" are in an angle. :tfpwn

 

nice paint job btw

It's either a downward angle or a slightly upward one. I'll take the upward one. Personally, I like the keep the main wings horizontal, and locked in place. It keeps things together better. In jet mode, the canards effectively become the vertical stabilizers. so, the angle you have for them works. I do it too. Like I said though, tilting the legs up that little bit, instead of down, does get rid of the gap, and is actually all that happens to them when you twist the waist around. It ends up at the same angle. The difference is that you can still plug the wings into the tread assembly if you adjust the tilt of the legs instead of twisting them around at the waist.

proper orientation

 

After saying you don't force your opinion on anyone... Lol. The jet mode is a fan creation. There is no 'proper' which is what this argument is about.

 

Secondly, Megatron's Cybertronian Jet mode is not just a space craft, It's a jet, and aircraft, that is why it needs to be aerodynamic

 

No. It can be whatever the hell anyone wants it to be. They could call it a shoe mode if they want. BTW, I recall specifically mentioning this 'space jet' point before, and you just ignored it because it contradicted your opinions.

 

It keeps the treads in their proper position, but raises the angle of the "thrusters" made out of the upper legs and thus fills up that gap.

 

But then he can't fly straight! Oh crap, it's the end of the world! Tramp just contradicted his own mentality!