A person like hot shot was in the movie if I am correct (hot shot go fast)in the movie I did not see him really go fast in a way where he only thought about it this is cybertron hot shot armada hot shot really wanted to prove himself and energon well I don't remember some one fill in the gap

so they basically just stuck in a HotShot-esque character anyway and called him Bumblebee.

Exactly, that's why Hollow Prime is incorrect. Hot Shot was in the movie, they just renamed him Bumblebee because Hasbro thought hat would be enough to fool the fanboys. I'm sorry to say that I seem to be the only person who didn't fall for this half-assed bait-and-switch.

Well aren't you just better than everyone Hornet?

 

And - Hot Shot is just Hot Rod + Bumblebee - so it doesn't really matter. Movie Bumblebee was Movie Bumblebee, get over it.

 

But if Movie Bumbles was really meant to be Hot Shot Re-Dux, I'm sure we'd have seen him go through a moment of ignoring orders and human safety to try to fight Bonecrusher or Starscream or someone (as in leaving Sam in a dangerous position to try to drop kick Starscream or some Blot).

But if Movie Bumbles was really meant to be Hot Shot Re-Dux, I'm sure we'd have seen him go through a moment of ignoring orders and human safety to try to fight Bonecrusher or Starscream or someone (as in leaving Sam in a dangerous position to try to drop kick Starscream or some Blot).

This does not describe Energon Hotshot, who was a solid, cool-headed member of Optimus' team compared to his "younger" Armada/Cybertron incarnations - the order ignoring impetuous youth was Energon Ironhide.

 

Keep in mind that Energon was the most recent version of Transformers when the movie was written and it's easier to make the connection (I imagine that Energon also inspired the "motorcycle Arcee" that was originally going to be in the film).

Keep in mind that Energon was the most recent version of Transformers when the movie was written and it's easier to make the connection (I imagine that Energon also inspired the "motorcycle Arcee" that was originally going to be in the film).

 

Yep. Add Megatron as a Cybertonian jet, Starscream as a F-22 Raptor, Ironhide as a pickup truck, and you definitely see the connection.

But if Movie Bumbles was really meant to be Hot Shot Re-Dux, I'm sure we'd have seen him go through a moment of ignoring orders and human safety to try to fight Bonecrusher or Starscream or someone (as in leaving Sam in a dangerous position to try to drop kick Starscream or some Blot).

I think that Hot Shot's defining trait is how he always acts so sub servant to the human characters. Bumblebee was the little kid who was eager to please the older Autobots. Hot Rod was the young, hot-headed rookie who would always jump into a situation without thinking. And Hot Shot was inexperienced, unsure of himself, and needed his human friends to teach him how to fight.

Keep in mind that Energon was the most recent version of Transformers when the movie was written and it's easier to make the connection (I imagine that Energon also inspired the "motorcycle Arcee" that was originally going to be in the film).

 

Yep. Add Megatron as a Cybertonian jet, Starscream as a F-22 Raptor, Ironhide as a pickup truck, and you definitely see the connection.

That's why the movie Ironhide toy repaint is blue.

 

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Hot Shot was a whiney little Starscream (except in energon where he was a throwaway lieutenant). Movie Bumblebee was neither a whiney little Starscream nor a throwaway lieutenant.

Ergo, Movie Bumblebee =/= A/E/C Hot Shot

Hot Shot was a whiney little Starscream (except in energon where he was a throwaway lieutenant). Movie Bumblebee was neither a whiney little Starscream nor a throwaway lieutenant.

I disagree. Both Hot Shot and Movie-BB were whiney little Protectobots who needed their human team mates to tell them how to do everything, it's just not as obvious with Movie-BB because he couldn't talk so he couldn't whine out loud.

Hot Shot was a whiney little Starscream (except in energon where he was a throwaway lieutenant). Movie Bumblebee was neither a whiney little Starscream nor a throwaway lieutenant.

Ergo, Movie Bumblebee =/= A/E/C Hot Shot

 

"Bumblebee is a brave soldier, this is what he would want."

 

- Movie Optimus, as he throws away Bumblebee...

Hot Shot was a whiney little Starscream (except in energon where he was a throwaway lieutenant). Movie Bumblebee was neither a whiney little Starscream nor a throwaway lieutenant.

I disagree. Both Hot Shot and Movie-BB were whiney little Protectobots who needed their human team mates to tell them how to do everything, it's just not as obvious with Movie-BB because he couldn't talk so he couldn't whine out loud.

 

WTF?? Are your referring to the same Bumblebee that handed Barricade's ass to him and shot the sh*t out of Brawl sans legs??

 

Even with the name change, you have retained your WTF factor...kudos!