in the transformers cartoon and movie we have seen starscream leave earth and blast into space however wouldnt he burn up or at least get burned when leaving the earths atmosphere or would that only happen on entering the earths atmosphere?

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Don't listen to them phil I like your posts.

 

A vehicle burns up entering Earth's atmosphere coz of the speed it's travelling creates friction. I'm not sure if a vehicle could travel fast enough leaving the Earth's atmosphere to generate friction.

 

Was there "burn up" around Starscream at the end of the film as he left Earth? I though there was and I've been puzzled by it.

I am not Jewish, but Oy vey....

i guess my question is -

Extreme Heat (saber rounds) and Extreme cold (arctic and/or fire extinguishers) kill transformers - or at the very least disable them.

but somehow, in the case of megatron for example, the snow in the arctic circle was cold in a way that interstellar space travel wasnt?

and his "telemetry" was knocked out of wack due to gravity? (again in a way that interstellar space travel didnt affect him?)

or heat? (in a way that reentering earth's atmosphere didn't create said heat?)

i guess my question is -

Extreme Heat (saber rounds) and Extreme cold (arctic and/or fire extinguishers) kill transformers - or at the very least disable them.

but somehow, in the case of megatron for example, the snow in the arctic circle was cold in a way that interstellar space travel wasnt?

and his "telemetry" was knocked out of wack due to gravity? (again in a way that interstellar space travel didnt affect him?)

or heat? (in a way that reentering earth's atmosphere didn't create said heat?)

 

My guess is that it isn't just the cold that impacts the Transformers, but somehow the ice that forms within an atmosphere and not in deep space that actually slows them down...but that's just me talking out of my ass.

urg. I don't believe there's any such problem with leaving earth atmosphere, you simply have to have enough power to escape earth's gravity. You would cool as you rose, not burn up. And you can leave in any direction you can handle.

It's entering earth atmosphere that gets you. Earth spaceships, which generally have a small target area they must try to land in, have to figure speed and angle of decent, because if you go straight in at a high rate of speed, going from a vacuum to air and the friction of moving thru it, causes a rise in temperature that will weaken or melt normal metals. If you come in at a low angle however, from vacuum to a comparitive solid mass of air, you could actually bounce off, like a rock skipping across a lake. This would be a problem for earth spaceships with limited fuel capacity, as you'd have to back off and start all over again if you intended to land on target.

Transformers capable of interstellar travel don't seem to be worried about fuel capacity or having to land on one particular target landing zone. And sure, even though they are made of better metals than our spacecraft, in an uncontrolled decent one could burn up. One would have to be pretty much nonfunctional to let that happen though. IMO.

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i guess my question is -

Extreme Heat (sabot rounds) and Extreme cold (arctic and/or fire extinguishers) kill transformers - or at the very least disable them.

but somehow, in the case of megatron for example, the snow in the arctic circle was cold in a way that interstellar space travel wasnt?

and his "telemetry" was knocked out of wack due to gravity? (again in a way that interstellar space travel didnt affect him?)

or heat? (in a way that reentering earth's atmosphere didn't create said heat?)

 

Corrected one thing :thumb But here's the thing in regards to Megatron.

 

He came to Earth, the gravitational field screwed up his telemetry and cut out contact with the Allspark, though he knew the exact coordinates (which explains why he was still able to engrave the map onto the glasses even though he was thousands of miles away). His entering the atmosphere heated him up, and when he touched down, he melted the ice and fell through to the icy water beneath. And when metal is heated then cooled in quick succession, it becomes stiff. But in the case of Megatron, he simply shut down.

 

Now, in regards to Starscream. I think that was just a special visual effect to show us that he was leaving Earth and I'm sure he was breaking some type of barrier, kind of like a visual effect sometimes put in cartoon when a character breaks, say for arguments sake, the sound barrier and creates a sonic boom. As for whether or not we see him actually returning to Earth in the sequel or at some point between this movie and the sequel, he and the other Decepticons return in secret and are trying to secretly finish the Combiner project at the start of the movie. I sure the former is more likely than the latter.

 

And another thing, phil, these physics questions are okay, but IMO, I think trying to understand the physics behind ficticous alien robots is like trying to understand the physics of Power Rangers and how a person with almost no martial arts/combat training can magically gain a suit and weapons and all of a sudden have intimate knowledge of martial arts moves, and how they can all suddenly be able to pilot gigantic robotic vehicles shaped like animals or vehicles.

 

However, if you're planning something like building a Transformer of your own in real life, let us in on it. If not, enjoy the movie for what it is. A lot of fun.

i guess my question is -

Extreme Heat (sabot rounds)

 

That still bugs me how the writers got that one wrong :tfevil You'd think in a Michael Bay movie that there would be at least some accuracy :P