Oh crap, BW megs is an Insecticon......aaargghhh!!!! lol!  No clones!

What I was trying to say earlier is.... it's fine to speculate about stuff if the source material doesn't tell you what you need to know. In this case, however......

 

It does.

 

In BW it's made perfectly clear that BW Megatron is NOT G1 Megatron. Also, there's nothing in G1 / BW / BM that I know of that would indicate that it is possible to actually clone a Transformer, as in replicate his/her spark. TM2 Dinobot had none of Dinobot's spark in him, so he was only a "clone" in the sense that he had the original Dinobot's data tracks uploaded into him. But his spark was 1/2 of Rampage's.

 

(And even in that case, TM2 Dinobot didn't end up being a clone of Rampage, but a distinct being of his own.)

I think this is interesting because in Japan, Primal and Megatron were the originals,

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No they wern't

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Actually they were. The japanese made several changes to Beast Wars. The show was exactly the same but a few characters were portrayed different, like Airrazor was made male. And Primal and Megs were made out to be the originals. Its kinda like in GF Nitro Convoy is a male, but C made Override a fem

 

 

TM2 Dinobot had none of Dinobot's spark in him, so he was only a "clone" in the sense that he had the original Dinobot's data tracks uploaded into him

 

 

He also had his DNA( and before someone leaps in, BWs characters had DNA)

I think this is interesting because in Japan, Primal and Megatron were the originals,

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No they wern't

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Actually they were. The japanese made several changes to Beast Wars. The show was exactly the same but a few characters were portrayed different, like Airrazor was made male. And Primal and Megs were made out to be the originals. Its kinda like in GF Nitro Convoy is a male, but C made Override a fem

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No the Leaders were vaughely implied to be the same characters as ther G1 versions but they never came out and said it, thus it left them a "trap-Door" when Agenda rolled around.

P.S. In the Manga Rattrap transformed intoa chibi rat and Ravage was the homocidal son of G1 Ravage :eek!

and Ravage was the homocidal son of G1 Ravage :eek!

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how homocidal are we talking here? Rampage level?

and Ravage was the homocidal son of G1 Ravage :eek!

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how homocidal are we talking here? Rampage level?

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'bout this homosidal

and Ravage was the homocidal son of G1 Ravage :eek!

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how homocidal are we talking here? Rampage level?

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'bout this homosidal

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DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

 

The first thing i've seen out of the Japanese manga that was kick ass.

Since rattrap was a pikachu clone, and airrazor looked like a chick in a robot suit, and tigerhawk was a buisho samurai.

I think this is interesting because in Japan, Primal and Megatron were the originals,

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No they wern't

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Actually they were. The japanese made several changes to Beast Wars. The show was exactly the same but a few characters were portrayed different, like Airrazor was made male. And Primal and Megs were made out to be the originals. Its kinda like in GF Nitro Convoy is a male, but C made Override a fem

 

 

TM2 Dinobot had none of Dinobot's spark in him, so he was only a "clone" in the sense that he had the original Dinobot's data tracks uploaded into him

 

 

He also had his DNA( and before someone leaps in, BWs characters had DNA)

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*sighs*

 

9. RUMOR: In Japan, Beast Wars Convoy (Optimus Primal) and Megatron are the same characters as their G1 namesakes, Convoy (Optimus Prime) and Megatron.

 

FACT: One theory claims that we're dealing with a case of miscommunication between Hasbro, Mainframe and Takara here again (see also 4). It's a known fact that Hasbro had originally intended BW Primal and Megatron to be the same characters as G1 Prime and Megatron, as hinted by their tech specs. For the CG show, however, Mainframe decided to ignore the tech specs and make them unique characters who simply adopted the names of those two legendary warriors, because Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio, the producers of the BW show, were initially not that familiar with the G1 characters.

According to the aforementioned theory, this piece of information might have been initially lost between Mainframe, Takara and the company that dubbed Beast Wars into Japanese. Therefore, Convoy and Megatron were hinted indeed to be the originals in the dubbed Japanese version of of the first US season. For the same reason, prehistoric Earth was also referred to as "Energois" (or "Energoa", or "Energor") in the dub. However, there's no definite answer to this - the dialogue was rather ambiguous, and since Japanese shows often like to feature a surprise element, these might have simply been "red herrings".

Also, the fact that Convoy (Optimus Primal) was hailed as the "legendary hero" in the BW II movie could simply be due to the fact that last year's heroes are often already viewed as "legendary" in the follow-up show - even though it's rather unlikely that Lio Convoy's crew could have actually known about "Gorilla" Convoy's adventures on prehistoric Earth. It's just a children's cartoon, after all.

Either way, the hints had been left ambiguous enough, so once Beast Wars Metals (US seasons 2 & 3) rolled around, they were explained to be different characters from their G1 namesakes, just like in the US version.

and Ravage was the homocidal son of G1 Ravage :eek!

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how homocidal are we talking here? Rampage level?

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'bout this homosidal

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DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

 

The first thing i've seen out of the Japanese manga that was kick ass.

Since rattrap was a pikachu clone, and airrazor looked like a chick in a robot suit, and tigerhawk was a buisho samurai.

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Did you see the Animatrian Hippo?

and Ravage was the homocidal son of G1 Ravage :eek!

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how homocidal are we talking here? Rampage level?

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'bout this homosidal

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DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

 

The first thing i've seen out of the Japanese manga that was kick ass.

Since rattrap was a pikachu clone, and airrazor looked like a chick in a robot suit, and tigerhawk was a buisho samurai.

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Did you see the Animatrian Hippo?

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No, linkie?