You haters out there...you know who you are....you guys are aware that one of the major writers who wrote for Beast Machines was Marv Wolfeman.

 

This is the same man who wrote TF:TM. Yup, the guy who gave us Unicron...Starscream's brief corination and all our favorite one liners...

 

is the same guy who fleshed out Primal, ole Meg Head...Tankor being Rhinox...

 

So if you truly support GEE WUN! Give Beast Machines another try :D

 

After all...came from the same mind...

I liked Beast Machines. It wasn't great, but it was good. Beast Wars was great though. Too bad they ran out of money when Cybertron got reformatted, it coulda looked better. Like in TF Universe #1.

I loved Beast Machines, just not the New Agism it was trying to preach - that I wasn't too crazy about. I'm surprised that the church/state separatists didn't raise a stink about incorporating religious/spiritual beliefs in the show.

 

Beast Machine had better character development than Beast Wars, IMHO.

it had more to do with East Asian thought as opposed to clear cut Christianity, which is probably why there wasn't such a stink about it.

Marv is great, his stories on BM were good, but the main guy was a man named Bob Skir who rapes everything he gets his hands on.  We have him to blame for X-Men Evolution and Godzilla the cartoon show.  He likes to take franchises with rich backstories and completly ignore him.  Not really his fault cause when Hasbro did BM thats exactully what they wanted.  Bob Foward and Larry Ditillio kinda tricked them by bringing in heavy G1 referances at the end, so they brought in Bob Skir to clean up the mess (in their eyes) and start something frsh.  In Skir's own words, "The cannon for Beast Wars was G1.  The cannon for our show is Beast Wars"  Which would have been great if he hadn't completly ignored facts like, Megatron complained about Energon guzzling Autobots and Decepticons, yet all of a sudden decided on making that the new craze, and completly ignoring the Vok which was established by Forward and ditillio to be a main focus on Season 4 had they got to do Season 4, and also the Tri-Pred Counsil which would have made a great 3 group fighting storyline if they returned to Cybertron with Megs in tow.  He announces to the Preds that their leaders are Unicron spawn and you have three factions fighting each other.  There are still parts of Beast Machines I really like, which maybe I should give credit to Marv for that, but most of Beast Machines was an insult to Beast Wars.

 

It's 100% better then Armada, Energon, or RId though.

I agree entirely: Beast Wars was incredible.

 

Wait, what?  Oh.  Eh.

ive never seen an episode of beast machines...i have to wait and see when the dvd comes out. I will give it a chance since it follows beast wars.

There's a common folly...

 

;)

a G1'er here , Beast machines was Fantastic!  :thumb

 

Anyone who hates it can go stand in the 'Star Trekkers who love the original series but hates everything that followed' line

 

I'm sure they'll hate you as much as the Trans-fandom does!! :tflaugh :tftongue

My only complaint about Beast Machines is how they altered Primal's Character. He went from a Superhero with a decent sense of humour to a inept, indecisive hippy.

 

 

I understand most of the cause of that is the huge amount of guilt he  feels over losing the Beast Wars and the repercussions that had on Cybertron, but still it was just such a huge character shift.

 

 

Cheetor really shone though in the leader spot, I loved the extra character development for everyone, the general shift in the "feel" of the show.

 

And Primal completely redeemed himself in the superhero department in the last couple of episodes though. His fight with Optimal Megatron is probably the best I've seen in a TV series, not just  a TF series.