...and 'sif See-Threepio could kick my arse. :P

"I can taunt you in over six-million forms of communication!"

wasn't frenzy having a fist fight with a human on an oil rig in an episode of G1? they was about the same size & the fight was pretty close (if i remember correctly)

 

G1 is not a reliable source of arguments when making a point. Also, Voyager's shields are finicky as all hell.

my main point is i really dgaf

 

(but i'll still say g1 is part of tf canon so get used to it)

They have relative strength to humans, so all are far stronger than humans are, unless the human was the same size as them. Then they'd probably still be stronger (machines are tougher, stronger etc than flesh and blood anyway).

If they operate using Hydraulics then they will be massively stronger. Take a look in car manufacturing plants, robots the size of human legs picking up tonnes of engine.

 

Movie Frenzy could probably have torn Sam limb from limb but he wasn't exactly thinking of strength he was thinking of information (and on the sugar rush from hell).

 

EDIT:- Look at insects like Earwigs, they can nip you, it doesnt hurt but the sheer alienness of the attack causes you to let go.

They have relative strength to humans, so all are far stronger than humans are, unless the human was the same size as them. Then they'd probably still be stronger (machines are tougher, stronger etc than flesh and blood anyway).

If they operate using Hydraulics then they will be massively stronger. Take a look in car manufacturing plants, robots the size of human legs picking up tonnes of engine.

 

Movie Frenzy could probably have torn Sam limb from limb but he wasn't exactly thinking of strength he was thinking of information (and on the sugar rush from hell).

 

EDIT:- Look at insects like Earwigs, they can nip you, it doesnt hurt but the sheer alienness of the attack causes you to let go.

I realised afterwards I wasn't talking sense. Couldn't be bothered to delete it though ;)

I'd say Sari is a cyborg, she has an organic outer skin, we don't know how long she has been alive (for all we know she might only have been alive as little as a week before episode 1.

Well, we know she had at least one birthday party before before the Autobots arrived on Earth-- Sparkplug was her father's present to her that year, and the other kids remember her being weird last time.

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EDIT:- Look at insects like Earwigs, they can nip you, it doesnt hurt but the sheer alienness of the attack causes you to let go.

 

Good point! Love it! lol

 

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Well, we know she had at least one birthday party before before the Autobots arrived on Earth-- Sparkplug was her father's present to her that year, and the other kids remember her being weird last time.

 

This is also a good, factual point to be taken. I believe she was created some time ago, and grows as a human does. But there is no proof.

 

About BA, if you look at the episode "Along came a Spider", on the planet with all the hidden Energon you can see her Battle Mask she currently wears now as a leftover decepticon's BEFORE she even IS BA. This shows that her Helmet (like i believe ALL TFs have one) is just a helmet. However, her armor is most likely part of her body. But if you look back at the Lore it shows that ALL TFs were T.O. (techno organic) at one time and they most likely just built the armor on them and used robotics to connect wiring to circuitry together. They are working on doing that IRL as we speak, so this is a familiar concept to humans. It IS possible to be able to connect wires with cells, and this is bascially what i believe she is. A past version of a transformer. Although she could be something entirely different. But i dont believe so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*to connect stem cells to circuitry together*

I think its more awkard of the toy where her head is when she is in alt mode. :redface

But if you look back at the Lore it shows that ALL TFs were T.O. (techno organic) at one time and they most likely just built the armor on them and used robotics to connect wiring to circuitry together.

That would not be a part of the :animated continuity.

But if you look back at the Lore it shows that ALL TFs were T.O. (techno organic) at one time and they most likely just built the armor on them and used robotics to connect wiring to circuitry together.

That would not be a part of the :animated continuity.

Or any continuity, IIRC.

The "organic creatures who built themselves into robots" is the GoBot mythos, not TFers.