You're off taste on kibble is fine, but the Leader class looks nothing like movie stills.

 

eh, to each thier own.

 

Death, learn this...

 

1.) Your opinion doesn't matter, period.

2.) You're not allowed to like the Leader Class figure (I do as well).

3.) You'll be dogpiled for going against the "popular" opinion.

 

Might as well not even try, you're just talking to a brick wall, and your opinion doesn't mean squat to other people, especially Kitten. (I find it absolutely ridiculous that Kitten's going out of the way just to attack this one opinion. Like a shark smelling blood in the water...)

 

I don't entirely agree that he looks exactly like the movie model, he does however, have quite a bit more of the model's details than the Voyager does. Then again, it's easier to make finer details on a larger model. Miniatures are much much more difficult to work with. (Not impossible though)

 

All in all....I think this is such a ridiculous thing to get upset over. Death, you and I are entitled to our opinion, and I think we should stick to our guns. Though I do think it's pathetic that in this day and age, no one has to respect another's opinion.

 

And I'd respect Kitten's, but I don't get the same in return, rather it's scrutinized and I'm told how wrong I am, so I don't give respect back. It's one thing to disagree with a person, or even agree to disagree, but when you've made your point and continue to rehash it over and over, and beat the dead horse 'til it's turned to pulp...you've got issues. (Yeah Kitten, that's aimed directly at you. Because you're not going to stop, you're going to continue on this pathetic crusade until your opinion is the only one agreed with.)

 

Other people like the Voyager Prime and still give us our opinion. Why don't you give that a try? A compromise isn't beyond you...is it?

 

EDIT: Oh and let me make this clear....regardless of accuracy and whatnot, sometimes a person just likes what they like, doesn't always have to be a rhyme or reason for it, it's just more appealing to that person and that should be justified as is, with no explanation needed. I happen to have reasons for liking Leader Class Prime, such as the detail, the blockier design, the intricate transformation, the electronics, the way the kibble is integrated into the full transformation rather than a backpack with headlights, and the simple fact of I JUST FRIGGIN' LIKE IT! It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that, nor deep.

 

Deal with it.

 

Wow, for someone complaining about attack other users and accepting opinions, you sure do a lot of what you complain of. Saying you don't want to give the same treatment you think is deserved just because you don't get it, is borderline ignorance. And I didn't see any opinion bashing in this topic, just a few friendly counterpoints from me, and you making a big long post about how everyone is ganging up on you and I'm shark.

 

Or something.

 

Right, you like Leader class. But "I JUST LIKE IT LOL" is not a reason, if you don't provide reason you should expect people of contrary opinions to reply to you. If you don't like, add friggn' reasons, it's a really simple concept, and for someone acting so wise, you should get it by now.

 

Okay, now you're trying to prove to me that you're either:

 

A.) Ignorant (and you're completely incapable of getting it. Which is sad.)

or

B.) You do get it and you're choosing to be a dick. (Which is more likely.)

 

"I JUST LIKE IT LOL" is indeed a valid reason. People are entitled to like what they like for whatever reason, even if that reason is simple and they just like it. They don't have to quantify it or make it sensible to you, for it to be valid.

You are not the end all, be all of opinions. No one gives a damn whether or not you think they're right, but you damn sure better realize that we're entitled to our opinions and they're of equal value in the grand scheme of things, even if you disagree.

You have no right to take away our opinions or silence our voices, and eventhough you can't do that, you wish it so and if you could, you would. (That's the biggest problem I have with you. No one's tried to stop you, or nitpick your's. We just think to ourselves "Okay, so what?" and leave it at that. You...you're incapable of that. You feed upon it.)

 

I know your Vulcan-like stance can't get away from logic long enough to wrap your brain around such a simple thought pattern, but try. You're becoming a major irritant.

 

You're welcome to your opinion, and you're welcome to not like another's, but past a certain point, you are not welcome to bash another's because it doesn't fit your ideal picture. You don't have to agree with it, by any means, of course. You're not welcome to carry on a crusade about how a person's opinion is wrong, and that they are wrong because they don't agree with you. It would be much easier just to let a person have their opinion and leave it at that, but no...you just HAVE to go out of your way to make sure it's a point of your post and a target of your incessant need to be right and perfect all the time.

 

Call me a hypocrite or whatever you wish to do (you already have an opinion of me that isn't very good, and that's fine. I could give a flying Powerglide less what you think about me personally) but just like you, I and Death, and many others are entitled to our opinions and because they go against yours doesn't make them any less important, nor anymore important than your's. It's called equality. Get it through your skull and deal with it.

 

Otherwise, you're going to be one lonely person when all that matters in your world is you. "No man is an island" they say, but you seem to be doing just that. Turning yourself into a cold, barren island. And you're welcome to it, perhaps then your opinion will reign supreme and the rest of us petty commoners won't get in your way.

 

I'd dare say you're bordering on trollish behavior, but then that'd be an insult to trolls.

Okay, now you're trying to prove to me that you're either:

 

A.) Ignorant (and you're completely incapable of getting it. Which is sad.)

or

B.) You do get it and you're choosing to be a dick. (Which is more likely.)

 

"I JUST LIKE IT LOL" is indeed a valid reason. People are entitled to like what they like for whatever reason, even if that reason is simple and they just like it. They don't have to quantify it or make it sensible to you, for it to be valid.

You are not the end all, be all of opinions. No one gives a damn whether or not you think they're right, but you damn sure better realize that we're entitled to our opinions and they're of equal value in the grand scheme of things, even if you disagree.

You have no right to take away our opinions or silence our voices, and eventhough you can't do that, you wish it so and if you could, you would. (That's the biggest problem I have with you. No one's tried to stop you, or nitpick your's. We just think to ourselves "Okay, so what?" and leave it at that. You...you're incapable of that. You feed upon it.)

No, just liking something is not a valid reason. You seem to under the impression that just because you're entitled to an opinion, mean all are valid. If I say World War II didn't happen, and my only reason to this opinion is "LOL BECAUSE", then it is a poor opinion, and will be responded to quickly. Understand? Alright. And I don't want to take away your opinion, I want to take away the foolish notion that all opinions are valid and should be left as is. Oddly enough, you're falling under both stipulation A and B, that you yourself set. Hilarious.

 

I know your Vulcan-like stance can't get away from logic long enough to wrap your brain around such a simple thought pattern, but try. You're becoming a major irritant.

 

You're welcome to your opinion, and you're welcome to not like another's, but past a certain point, you are not welcome to bash another's because it doesn't fit your ideal picture. You don't have to agree with it, by any means, of course. You're not welcome to carry on a crusade about how a person's opinion is wrong, and that they are wrong because they don't agree with you. It would be much easier just to let a person have their opinion and leave it at that, but no...you just HAVE to go out of your way to make sure it's a point of your post and a target of your incessant need to be right and perfect all the time.

 

Let me give you the run down of what happened, since you're making lots of things up and pretending it happened. I encourage imagination, but not like that. This is the low down:

 

You stated an opinion without reasons.

 

I provided a counterpoint.

 

You called me a name and tried to argue the ethics of responding to a baseless claim (not that it couldn't have a base mind you, it just wasn't provided one by you).

 

And it's going back and forth, and you're not getting it. Opinions can be wrong, and any opinion with however little support is always right against one with none. Argue the point, or go away. Don't sit here and make foolish posts about how I'm ignorant and such.

 

Call me a hypocrite or whatever you wish to do (you already have an opinion of me that isn't very good, and that's fine. I could give a flying Powerglide less what you think about me personally) but just like you, I and Death, and many others are entitled to our opinions and because they go against yours doesn't make them any less important, nor anymore important than your's. It's called equality. Get it through your skull and deal with it.

Yes, exactly! Equality. An opinion based on nothing isn't equal to one that is, and if you're irritated at me getting a little irked at you for parading around spouting nonsense, so be it. But I never questioned your right to have an opinion, just you're idea that it shouldn't be addressed. Gosh. Learn to read.

 

Otherwise, you're going to be one lonely person when all that matters in your world is you. "No man is an island" they say, but you seem to be doing just that. Turning yourself into a cold, barren island. And you're welcome to it, perhaps then your opinion will reign supreme and the rest of us petty commoners won't get in your way.

 

Wow, did you just analyze my very being from a few internet posts on a toy forum? Damn, I guess you're just a genius! I don't know why pseudo intelligent people always drop to, "YOU SUCK IRL", but it's always so disgusting to see it. To think, you started this post by presenting the possibility that I was ignorant. Tsk.

 

I'd dare say you're bordering on trollish behavior, but then that'd be an insult to trolls.

 

So you dare to say something else instead? I'm cool with funny insults that make sense, but this is just so off center it's funny.

We know what an opinon is, and we know your stance on the matter. No further posting from you is required until we get new input on your part. Thanks.

I hate it when people say, "If you don't like it, don't read it.", because they're replying to something they don't like, thus reading it. I hate contradictory crap like that.

 

And I never said you couldn't post, I just said post relevant things if you don't want to be thought of as a joke account.

now now children let's settle down.

 

Maybe Freefall has a point that the figure has it's flaws, and maybe Sex Kitty has a point that Bumblebee is Yellow.

I'm surprised that you weren't upset that I called you Freefall....

Dawgoneit! I just these things polished!

Damn, for such an advocate of a stress free opinion space, you sure the Hell are quick to snap at me when I have an opinion about your posts.

Damn, for such an advocate of a stress free opinion space, you sure the Hell are quick to snap at me when I have an opinion about your posts.

 

 

Sorry babe, welcome to TFans. See, this is why I said to go to INH, at least there the arguments are degrade into gay jokes and obscure anime references.

I am being civil. You're the one bringing up the definition of what an opinion is, obviously addressing some mystery poster who cares, and when told to say on topic things you snap. Anyone who advocates something and then does the other, is an imbecile. Regardless of your fight fire with fire motto.