I am not sure - in the 3 or 4 episodes i have seen all Prime does is stand around lecturing to people about how IMPORTANT this battle is while no one really does ANYTHING.  And then when the Decepticons defeat said person or steal said object - they all act surprised -BUT NO ONE DID A GODDAMNED THING!! WTF?!?!

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I don't know what episodes you saw but there was a period of time when "Prime" was questioning his leadership and slacked off on his duties in commanding his troops. There was even a point when he didn't want anyone to do anything.

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Oh, let's not throw in any realism. :wtf There can be times a leader questions himself. G1 Prime had his moments as well. It's just that some "younger" folks and others don't really remember them as well as they think.

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The episodes i am talking about are the first 4 which were realeased on DVD and then the 46/47 that are linked in the other thread....

 

so i dont think it has anything to do with that.

I am not sure - in the 3 or 4 episodes i have seen all Prime does is stand around lecturing to people about how IMPORTANT this battle is while no one really does ANYTHING.  And then when the Decepticons defeat said person or steal said object - they all act surprised -BUT NO ONE DID A GODDAMNED THING!! WTF?!?!

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I don't know what episodes you saw but there was a period of time when "Prime" was questioning his leadership and slacked off on his duties in commanding his troops. There was even a point when he didn't want anyone to do anything.

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Oh, let's not throw in any realism. :wtf There can be times a leader questions himself. G1 Prime had his moments as well. It's just that some "younger" folks and others don't really remember them as well as they think.

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The episodes i am talking about are the first 4 which were realeased on DVD and then the 46/47 that are linked in the other thread....

 

so i dont think it has anything to do with that.

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And I don't think 4-6 episodes summarizes an entire series, so I actually do think it applies.

The Show was Good IMO. I enjoyed it. Nuff said.

episode 50 was the best.52 was deleted stuff.and energon hotshot in 51 was just a memory or something.showing how kicker related to the autobots in cybertron for people who didn't know.

No, it was thrown in because Hasbro are trying to convince people this is connected with Energon and Armada.......I checked, that scene never appeared in GF. Plus, even if it had, it wouldn't make sense, seeing as its Hot Shot there

No, it was thrown in because Hasbro are trying to convince people this is connected with Energon and Armada.......I checked, that scene never appeared in GF. Plus, even if it had, it wouldn't make sense, seeing as its Hot Shot there

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It's just a memory!You don't even see all of him and it's clouded like all of the memories on this type of show!!!

No, it was thrown in because Hasbro are trying to convince people this is connected with Energon and Armada.......I checked, that scene never appeared in GF. Plus, even if it had, it wouldn't make sense, seeing as its Hot Shot there

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It IS connected with A/E. GF isn't. They're different shows.

No, it was thrown in because Hasbro are trying to convince people this is connected with Energon and Armada.......I checked, that scene never appeared in GF. Plus, even if it had, it wouldn't make sense, seeing as its Hot Shot there

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It IS connected with A/E. GF isn't. They're different shows.

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That's pretty much how I look at it. I mean, I haven't personally seen Galaxy Force, because I can't understand Japanese and I don't like to read shows, but from what everyone is saying, it's totally different. That keeps me from comparing them. I'd probably enjoy each in a different way.

To start with Optimus Prime needs the super modes for extra armor, and strength and weapons. Optimus Prime is getting old, how can you expect him to become even stronger? Yes I agree that Prime should start using the "Super-Mode" less, but really I think that Optimus looks really cool with his SM. I did not see the end of Energon, nor have I seen the end of Cybertron (not yet anyway). Optimus really wants to defeat Galvatron and is willing to do so at all means, he really dosen't care if he uses a damn supermode or not He JUSTS wants to defeat Galvatron! Besides, you are making such a big friggin deal over a show for us younger people (older kids and teens). We really can careless, and I don't think that the Primes are getting weaker. But I do hope that the next Prime in the next series is much stronger than the one now.

Another thing about cyb/Gf  Megs/gal, and starscream were supposed to be the two strongest decpticons, and its not like the autobots want to fight really.  Prime doesn't need to be super strong all the time for no apparent reason.

 

Even G1 prime got a super mode.  New stronger tfs come in, prime gets his new body, and goes into supermode to beat them.  Big deal.  Also cyb/gf prime pulled off the supermode with the most class in my opinion.  He didn't have superpants that were used at the wrong times, he didn't have uber weak partners who get zip in the real character development.  ((well theres wingsaber in gf/cybertron, but he's bad@$$ so we'll let him slide))

 

Also in toys Gf/cyb prime beats out the last two.  ((not RiD he still has the best supermodes))

 

but this is all my opinion so whatever.