Thats the whole reason Shockwave DOESNT deserve royalties like that. Starscream is more popular and was still ruined

 

Really? 3 years and you are still moaning about this.

I'll defend starscream to my death. Why should I stop? They didn't fix the problem, now, did they?

screw starscream and his cowardly hide.

from the begining he was a smack around toadie, hence comic relief. I was happy to see him killed literaly in his moment.

Yeah, champion that???

 

Shockwave could at least hold his own(and then some) and not have you begging to see him get knocked the hell down every time he showed up :yay

I'll defend starscream to my death. Why should I stop? They didn't fix the problem, now, did they?

 

It was fixed. They took a cowardly gay robot and turned him into a cowardly occasionally bad ass robot.

fucken awesome

I'll defend starscream to my death. Why should I stop? They didn't fix the problem, now, did they?

 

It was fixed. They took a cowardly gay robot and turned him into a cowardly occasionally bad ass robot.

 

Wrong. They took a cunning, scheming, destruction-loving robot and turned him into some fat ugly abomination. I'm sick and tired of all the accusations that G1 screamer was gay. Sure he was a bit of a fruit, but that does NOT make him gay, nor is it the reason I liked the character.

 

Watch Cybertron and Animated. THOSE are the perfect Starscreams right there

 

The Bayverse RUINED the character. Not only did they do what I just mentioned, but they also turned him into some drone. Where's the Starscream that loves chaos and destruction? Where's the Starscream who smirks at the thought of ruling the Decepticons? Where's the Starscream who charges headlong into battle? He was NOWHERE to be seen in the movies. And he is sadly missed

I'll defend starscream to my death. Why should I stop? They didn't fix the problem, now, did they?

 

Wow...such loyalty and devotion to the character..... :eek

 

I haven't seen cybertron, but really animated SS? I liked the G1 version better his snide remarks had me in stitches, other than that really didn't care that much for him. I did like SS portray in ROS, seemed bad ass there. Movie not so much....but I won't get into that.

 

Back on topic Shockwave as the main villain pretty cool I guess, no telling in Bay's movies, Corey Burton would be nice! :thumb

I'll defend starscream to my death. Why should I stop? They didn't fix the problem, now, did they?

 

It was fixed. They took a cowardly gay robot and turned him into a cowardly occasionally bad ass robot.

 

Wrong. They took a cunning, scheming, destruction-loving robot and turned him into some fat ugly abomination. I'm sick and tired of all the accusations that G1 screamer was gay. Sure he was a bit of a fruit, but that does NOT make him gay, nor is it the reason I liked the character.

 

Watch Cybertron and Animated. THOSE are the perfect Starscreams right there

 

The Bayverse RUINED the character. Not only did they do what I just mentioned, but they also turned him into some drone. Where's the Starscream that loves chaos and destruction? Where's the Starscream who smirks at the thought of ruling the Decepticons? Where's the Starscream who charges headlong into battle? He was NOWHERE to be seen in the movies. And he is sadly missed

 

Starscream was scheming, but he was far from cunning, and constantly a coward whenever confronted. He's like that video of the fat kid who pics a fight and runs away crying for mommy after the first hit.

 

AEC Starscream was awesome, but man that was no Starscream concerning the source matterial. Honor, loyalty, dedication. He didn't get into the destruction bit until Cybertron where outside of one fight he went right back to having his ass kicked.

 

Now I know you hate the movies, it's your right. But lets answer your question about Chaos and destruction.

Who makes the first attack that takes out Bumblebee's legs?

Who flies around taunting jet fighters as he picks them off for fun?

Who starts taking kill shots, without caring that Megatron is in the way?

Who takes over when Megatron gets defeated?

Who's the first to state it was an act of loyalty when Megatron returns out of fear of getting shot to holy hell?

Who's the first to run after a single hit in both the mission city and forrest battles?

Who's the guy who suggests the exact opposite of chaos and destruction to Megatron on top of a sky scraper?

Who suggests it a true to nature cowardly manner that the Decepticons retreat?

 

All pansy ass starscream. You can hate the design, and confuse AEC Starscream with G1 Starscream, but really for the screan time he had the movie hit his mennerisms right on the head.

 

Also, what Starscream drones?

 

Not for anything, I hated Animated, and couldn't stant looking at that shortbus figure. One thing I really liked about it was that character wise they really delivered on Starscream being an egotistical coward who even after becoming near immortal couldn't get a dam thing done.

 

Ok I Love the Shockwave Idea. But I have a wait and see thing going here. Hell Bay could do the whole soundwave deal with shocky. But I have to say this the News that Tf3 will be in 3D Proves that:

MICHAEL BAY IS THE BIGGEST FREAKING LIAR EVER!

Didn't he say that he would be against TF3 in 3d? That it made no sense? Then again he also said Megan Fox was going to be in the third move too. How can the guy who's Directing the movie not know anything about it?

So with the way Bay treats his main villian in every movie, does this mean Shockwave will spend the whole movie frozen in a block of ice, then thawed out to be killed, or stuck in a chair the whole movie, only to get released and killed?

 

BTW - A Bay Transformers movie in 3D, what a great way to make it give me an even bigger headache. PASS.

 

This is going to happen.

 

The way it SHOULD happen. TF3 involves getting the Decepticon warship up and running, succeed and then at the end, transforms into Trypticon. A city sized badass that rains death on the Autobots leaving them in despair. Sets up Omega Supreme to arrive with reinforcement, battle of epic proportions, etc. The film ends with Megatron finally getting back into contact with Shockwave who is just starting to fire up space bridges all over Cybertron. Sets up TF4.

 

Now that I said that, itll never happen. I just want a Nemesis that TFs into Trypticon damnit.