ok all the pics are down??

this conversation is really really agrivating with out pics.

can some one post them or PM me?

Please?

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Honestly, you're not missing much other than a confirmation of the color scheme we've already seen. Same bot mode picture w/ a jet mode picture

ok all the pics are down??

this conversation is really really agrivating with out pics.

can some one post them or PM me?

Please?

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Just look at my MSPaint...it's prettier anyway.

All right, I think the main problem here is:

 

1. They chose the new, more realistic prototype over the UBERGEEWUNFANWANKOFALLTIME first proto - however, this is not the main problem, read on...

 

2. Fans go into FANWANKSHOCK over it...but most come to their general senses and see the coolness of the new figure.

 

3. Then, all of the hate starts up again when TAKOMY (Hasbro has not announced whether or not they're releasing this yet, so I'm not including them in this) chooses this colorscheme.

 

Basically, the hate comes form the perception that TAKOMY isn't even going to meet the fans halfway on this one - halfway being the new realistic mold, but colors that represent the true G1 Starscream in robot mode.

 

Just a thought.

 

EDIT: Added for pic pleasure - the original pic...go back a few posts to check out mine and Guld's photoshop edits.

All right, I think the main problem here is:

 

1. They chose the new, more realistic prototype over the UBERGEEWUNFANWANKOFALLTIME first proto - however, this is not the main problem, read on...

 

2. Fans go into FANWANKSHOCK over it...but most come to their general senses and see the coolness of the new figure.

 

3. Then, all of the hate starts up again when TAKOMY (Hasbro has not announced whether or not they're releasing this yet, so I'm not including them in this) chooses this colorscheme.

 

Basically, the hate comes form the perception that TAKOMY isn't even going to meet the fans halfway on this one - halfway being the new realistic mold, but colors that represent the true G1 Starscream in robot mode.

 

Just a thought.

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but it seems to me that "halfway" is exactly what they went for... they *could* have made him look totally un-G1ish at all in his jet mode, you know like a real F-15 and stuff. But they gave him :Dc symbols (even on the nose cone, where you NEVER see markings) and those stripes... and unless I saw it wrong, they had "SS" on the tail fins.

All right, I think the main problem here is:

 

1. They chose the new, more realistic prototype over the UBERGEEWUNFANWANKOFALLTIME first proto - however, this is not the main problem, read on...

 

2. Fans go into FANWANKSHOCK over it...but most come to their general senses and see the coolness of the new figure.

 

3. Then, all of the hate starts up again when TAKOMY (Hasbro has not announced whether or not they're releasing this yet, so I'm not including them in this) chooses this colorscheme.

 

Basically, the hate comes form the perception that TAKOMY isn't even going to meet the fans halfway on this one - halfway being the new realistic mold, but colors that represent the true G1 Starscream in robot mode.

 

Just a thought.

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but it seems to me that "halfway" is exactly what they went for... they *could* have made him look totally un-G1ish at all in his jet mode, you know like a real F-15 and stuff. But they gave him :Dc symbols (even on the nose cone, where you NEVER see markings) and those stripes... and unless I saw it wrong, they had "SS" on the tail fins.

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I was talking about the robot mode. I think I would have been okay w/out any insignias and stripes in jet mode actually, as I could have just gotten some :Dc logos from reprolabels.

 

And I hadn't noticed the SS on his fins...

All right, I think the main problem here is:

 

1. They chose the new, more realistic prototype over the UBERGEEWUNFANWANKOFALLTIME first proto - however, this is not the main problem, read on...

 

2. Fans go into FANWANKSHOCK over it...but most come to their general senses and see the coolness of the new figure.

 

3. Then, all of the hate starts up again when TAKOMY (Hasbro has not announced whether or not they're releasing this yet, so I'm not including them in this) chooses this colorscheme.

 

Basically, the hate comes form the perception that TAKOMY isn't even going to meet the fans halfway on this one - halfway being the new realistic mold, but colors that represent the true G1 Starscream in robot mode.

 

Just a thought.

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but it seems to me that "halfway" is exactly what they went for... they *could* have made him look totally un-G1ish at all in his jet mode, you know like a real F-15 and stuff. But they gave him :Dc symbols (even on the nose cone, where you NEVER see markings) and those stripes... and unless I saw it wrong, they had "SS" on the tail fins.

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I did was talking about the robot mode. I think I would have been okay w/out any insignias and stripes in jet mode actually, as I could have just gotten some :Dc logos from reprolabels.

 

And I hadn't noticed the SS on his fins...

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a-ha

 

yeah I dunno, like I've said before, it was generally thought to be a cool idea to have the movie jets be all gray in jet mode but then have colored robot bits pop out when they transform..... okay this isn't the movie, but still I think it's a cool idea

NOW THAT I CAN POST..i see where getting thundercraker huh..cause those are not starscreams colors. im fine with that as lond as they change the name on the box

look, it'd be a lot easier for everyone if we just acknowledge that this is only an homage to G1 Starscream.... seriously, it would massively cut down on the angst

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Actually, it wouldn't.

 

In terms of respect to the original, paying tribute to the aspects that made him what he was, the first is better.

I'm not saying it's the better figure, but in celebrating, honouring aspects of the original that the second mold snubs it's nose at, it is a more fitting tribute, a truer homage.

 

That's what is at the centre of all of this.

 

It's not a bunch of people looking at a figure and comparing it to high expectations no one could ever possibly match, it's them looking it MP03 v2 and comparing it to the first version, the version they originally bought into.

 

We were given two Starscreams with very different qualities; one the ultimate G1 fanwank, the other the ultimate realism fanwank.

There's a market for both, and by choosing not to deliver to both, by choosing to replace one with the other, they have alienated and annoyed one of those markets, opened themselves up to the comparisons and the crticism.

 

I mean do you really think anyone would waste their time moaning about this is they were still getting the MP G1 Starscream they were shown and sold on originally?

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I think that sums up everyones frustration and gripes on this issue perfectly.

and unless I saw it wrong, they had "SS" on the tail fins.

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OMG!! STARSCREAM IS A NAZI!!!

All right, I think the main problem here is:

 

1. They chose the new, more realistic prototype over the UBERGEEWUNFANWANKOFALLTIME first proto - however, this is not the main problem, read on...

 

2. Fans go into FANWANKSHOCK over it...but most come to their general senses and see the coolness of the new figure.

 

3. Then, all of the hate starts up again when TAKOMY (Hasbro has not announced whether or not they're releasing this yet, so I'm not including them in this) chooses this colorscheme.

 

Basically, the hate comes form the perception that TAKOMY isn't even going to meet the fans halfway on this one - halfway being the new realistic mold, but colors that represent the true G1 Starscream in robot mode.

 

Just a thought.

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but it seems to me that "halfway" is exactly what they went for... they *could* have made him look totally un-G1ish at all in his jet mode, you know like a real F-15 and stuff. But they gave him :Dc symbols (even on the nose cone, where you NEVER see markings) and those stripes... and unless I saw it wrong, they had "SS" on the tail fins.

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I did was talking about the robot mode. I think I would have been okay w/out any insignias and stripes in jet mode actually, as I could have just gotten some :Dc logos from reprolabels.

 

And I hadn't noticed the SS on his fins...

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a-ha

 

yeah I dunno, like I've said before, it was generally thought to be a cool idea to have the movie jets be all gray in jet mode but then have colored robot bits pop out when they transform..... okay this isn't the movie, but still I think it's a cool idea

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That would PWN