I see where you're coming from now, and I agree. Pointing out and debating about the good and bad points of something is fine by me. I don't have problems with how opinions are expressed most of the time. It's just when someone comes along and says something like "Let's face it, Cybertron just isn't a good show", like I'm under some sort of delusion for liking it, that's when I have a problem.

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Well here's the thing though...... both of these statements can be true:

 

1. Cybertron is not a good show

 

2. You like Cybertron

 

Of course you'd have to define "good", which takes you quickly into the realm of subjectivity. But I daresay that most television critics (and I mean TV critics who look at children's programming) would dismiss "Transformers: Cybertron" as a shallow, derivative and slightly obnoxious toy commercial. As indeed they would for most Transformers shows. (I fear that Beast Wars would be the sole exception, as it is the only TF series ever to win an Emmy. And indeed it seems to be the most consistently top-rated show among the TF fandom.)

 

However, that by no means nullifies your enjoyment of the show, or the validity of your opinion. After all, how many movies do we watch and love that have been savaged by critics, or even the general filmgoing audience? It's okay to accept this reality. It's a sign of defensiveness and insecurity to try to shut out that reality.

 

That's all I'm saying.

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Don't get me wrong. I understand that most non-fans and a sizeable portion of fans dislike the show and don't consider it to be a good show. I'm fine with them having their opinion, and I respect their right to express that opinion. I, too, see what I consider to be flaws in the show.

 

I'm just arguing semantics here, and it's not the "Cybertron is not a good show" I have a problem with. It's when it is prefaced by "Let's face it" or "The fact is that" or something similar that I have a problem with it. It just implies to me that my opposing opinion is not being respected.

 

I don't want to appear defensive, and the amount of argument I've provided outweighs how much I really care about it. It's just a pet peeve of mine that I'll probably just have to get over.  :tfgrin

I understand what you're saying. It's the condescension implied in such posts that grates on you. Don't feel bad for getting defensive about that; if someone were like "let's face it, Beast Machines sucked" I'd be all over that like a fly on sh*t.

 

 

Anyway this is all a bit funny anyway b/c here we've got people saying "NO YOUR KIDS' CARTOON SUXX AND MY KIDS' CARTOON IS AWSUM" :tflaugh