Ok SG...here's my take on it:

 

I would have probably stopped liking Prime as a kid if he killed another Autobot in such a manner. Just a straight shot and destroying Hot Rod, who up til that point I really liked. Yup, I would have quit liking Prime.

 

I don't think Prime would have been so depressed at all if he shot Hot Rod just like you described. I mean he would have completely forfeited his code of honor and Hot Rod's life all in one shot (pun not-intended). This would have been a conscious decision to take out Megatron "No matter the cost." So I think he would have dealt with it as a choice to try to end the war, sure it would have bothered him and others, but at the same time I believe it would have solidfied him to others as a true leader, making one of the toughtest choices in history.

 

Then he would have had a major battle with Galvatron at Autobot City when the 'Cons attacked again during the rebuilding of the city. This would have been a fight Prime would have been hard-pressed to win, seeing as how Galvatron would be newly-empowered by Unicron. Honestly I believe Prime would have lost it. Then Galvatron would have taken the Matrix at that point and headed back to Unicron. This would have made the Autobots chase them to Unicron/Cybertron.

 

Then during the trip, chasing the 'Cons they get shot down to Junk. Galvatron kills Magnus and buries the rest of the 'Bots.

 

From there I'm not sure, but I believe thats how it would have went down for the most part.

I think the story could have been very different. (I know the thread is more about what I would feel if Prime murdered Hot Rod, but I don't have an answer to that right now)

 

1. Could the Matrix be opened by Optimus Prime?

 

The answer to this is yes, simply because he does do it later on to stop the Hate Virus.

 

2. Could Hot Rod have been reformatted by Unicron?

 

Let's say Optimus shot both Hot Rod and Megatron and both fell over the cliff. If Hot Rod was still alive, the decepticons would have grabbed him to be a prisoner/bargaining chip. Then when Astrotrain needed weight dumped they would definitely toss an Autobot out first. He would have floated through space with Megatron til Unicron reformated them all. This would have made an end battle even more dramatic if Optimus had to stop a reformated Hot Rod.

 

3. Would Unicron have even come to Cybertron?

 

The first time we see Unicron interested in what is going on in the rest of the movie is when Hot Rod catches the Matrix and it gets glowy. Did Unicron even know the Matrix existed before then? If Magnus had caught it and it hadn't glowed, would Unicron have even known? If not then he would have possibly just kept going in whatever direction he was moving in without caring about Cybertron.

Prime would be overcome with self doubt, as a leader and an autobot. I would see him going into self seclusion, even GIVING the Matrix to UM. Galvatron would still have been created, but now with a real mad on for Prime.

Prime would depart in a shuttle and there would be a huge send off from the surviving autobots and all saying they would be missing him, save Daniel shouting good riddance! Prime is shown saying he must go accecpt judgment for his crimes

Galvatron and company do their thing with sheistering SS and taking comand, then launching an attack on the Autobots, screaming for Prime. UM challenges him saying he is the Prime. They fight, UM gets whooped again, matrix torn from chest yadda yadda...

With the UM gone, they need OP back, so the survivors go hunting for him, with reluctant daniel.

They get attacked and split up...some to Junk and they do the whole musical number, the other to Quintessa. There captured and imprisoned they meet the lithomech and see his fate...and then they see Prime imprisoned as well. Though it turns out he went there on purpose! They try to speak out for Op when he is before the Imperial Magistrate..and they get tossed to the sharkticons. Prime exclaimes that he won't have anyone else die in his name and goes all baddass. Needless to say they escape and meet up with the other ship as Unicron attackes cybertron. Since this is MY rewrite, I'll show shockwave leading the attack consisting of seekers and combining teams, giving a sweet short speach, trasnforming with the teams combining, and having Devestator use him. (he will survive mind you). Unicron of course starts taking names and laying waste. When he claws cybertron, you see reflector, the insecticons and dirge biting it.

Finally Prime arives and personally rushes Unicron...and is swallowed. Inside he encounters the Sweeps who were with Galvatron when Unicron took them in. The Junkions ship also attacks and goes into the eye. now UM goes out all baddass. Arcee and Daniel go save his dad, bumble bee, jazz and bumper...

UM meets up with OP and they shake hands. Nice lil speech about never giving up and such and finally Prime says "let's transform" with UM finishing "and roll out!". The two trucks go barreling through the Sweeps kind of like the begining battle of the movie. Finally they meet Galvatron and he goes homicidal when he sees prime. eventually though Galv. grabs magnus like he did hot rod. Prime hesitates. UM tells him he needs to do it, be a leader! Prime take the shot and blasts through UM. Galvatron is shocked and Prime launches himself. They fight but you still see UM starting to move. Galvatron gets the upper hand and is about to blast prime when he is shot. UM is now standing san armor like in the dream wave comic. Galvatron goes nuts screaming TWO PRIMES? and then Op graps the matrix, does the whole light our darkest hour and the rest is filler

 

hmm...ok, who ever turns this into a fan fic, just give me credit.

Prime would be overcome with self doubt, as a leader and an autobot. I would see him going into self seclusion, even GIVING the Matrix to UM. Galvatron would still have been created, but now with a real mad on for Prime.

Prime would depart in a shuttle and there would be a huge send off from the surviving autobots and all saying they would be missing him, save Daniel shouting good riddance! Prime is shown saying he must go accecpt judgment for his crimes

Galvatron and company do their thing with sheistering SS and taking comand, then launching an attack on the Autobots, screaming for Prime. UM challenges him saying he is the Prime. They fight, UM gets whooped again, matrix torn from chest yadda yadda...

With the UM gone, they need OP back, so the survivors go hunting for him, with reluctant daniel.

They get attacked and split up...some to Junk and they do the whole musical number, the other to Quintessa. There captured and imprisoned they meet the lithomech and see his fate...and then they see Prime imprisoned as well. Though it turns out he went there on purpose! They try to speak out for Op when he is before the Imperial Magistrate..and they get tossed to the sharkticons. Prime exclaimes that he won't have anyone else die in his name and goes all baddass. Needless to say they escape and meet up with the other ship as Unicron attackes cybertron. Since this is MY rewrite, I'll show shockwave leading the attack consisting of seekers and combining teams, giving a sweet short speach, trasnforming with the teams combining, and having Devestator use him. (he will survive mind you). Unicron of course starts taking names and laying waste. When he claws cybertron, you see reflector, the insecticons and dirge biting it.

Finally Prime arives and personally rushes Unicron...and is swallowed. Inside he encounters the Sweeps who were with Galvatron when Unicron took them in. The Junkions ship also attacks and goes into the eye. now UM goes out all baddass. Arcee and Daniel go save his dad, bumble bee, jazz and bumper...

UM meets up with OP and they shake hands. Nice lil speech about never giving up and such and finally Prime says "let's transform" with UM finishing "and roll out!". The two trucks go barreling through the Sweeps kind of like the begining battle of the movie. Finally they meet Galvatron and he goes homicidal when he sees prime. eventually though Galv. grabs magnus like he did hot rod. Prime hesitates. UM tells him he needs to do it, be a leader! Prime take the shot and blasts through UM. Galvatron is shocked and Prime launches himself. They fight but you still see UM starting to move. Galvatron gets the upper hand and is about to blast prime when he is shot. UM is now standing san armor like in the dream wave comic. Galvatron goes nuts screaming TWO PRIMES? and then Op graps the matrix, does the whole light our darkest hour and the rest is filler

 

hmm...ok, who ever turns this into a fan fic, just give me credit.

BEST REWRITE EVAR!!!!!!

Omg, thats how the movie should have been done, but some way hotrod should live in the end. I mean we have seen some bots get blown up and still come back...

Well... if Optimus Prime was such a good shot, why didn't he just 2-hand the gun and headshot Megatron? Also, Megatron only has the gun on Hot Rod for a short amount of time before pointing it at Prime. If Optimus Prime had a brain, he would have shot at Megatron's gun, since even if it did go off, it wouldn't have hit Hot Rod.

Well... if Optimus Prime was such a good shot, why didn't he just 2-hand the gun and headshot Megatron? Also, Megatron only has the gun on Hot Rod for a short amount of time before pointing it at Prime. If Optimus Prime had a brain, he would have shot at Megatron's gun, since even if it did go off, it wouldn't have hit Hot Rod.

Well, the shock would completely stop him from taking that chance. And as for the headshot idea, you guys didn't have the ominous Counter-Strike voice saying "HEADSHOT!" :tflaugh

 

Yeah, don't ave much to say here. Oh and by the way, nice re-write Starscreamer. :thumb

Would it have made for a more interesting turn of events (back in 1986) if INSTEAD of Optimus Prime not shooting Megatron when he's grappling with Hot Rod, Optimus Prime instead shoots STRAIGHT THROUGH Hot Rod and kills Megatron but also Hot Rod in the process!!

 

Yeh, sure you'll all say NOW that that would be friggin' great...

but back then, when we where small and Optimus Prime was our hero, how would we have taken it if he took another Autobots life? How would the movie have developed?

 

The remainder of plot elements stay intact I guess...

Unicron is still on a collision course with the Matrix...

Megatron gets formatted into Galvatron still...

Ultra Magnus is still a friggin' wimp...

But Optimus lives, and Rodimus dies...

 

Debate.

dude, that woulda been the best scene eva!!! :thumb

ya know....I think I WILL write this as a fan fic :D

ya know....I think I WILL write this as a fan fic :D

I would like to see it.

ok, if hot rod had died instead of op, op would've been stripped of rank and the matrix and it would've been giving to somebody else, most likely um. I like the idea of hot rod and megs getting reformatted, and both hating op for what happens, i see them both going after op and the matrix and killing um like it did, but i think galv would've took it back to uni like in the movie, and then been swallowed, i think roddy would've then went in after galv for being a glory hog and wanting to take te matrix for himself, they would've fought just like in the movie and roddy would've got hold of the matrix transforming again, back to a bot, defeated galv and went from there, and probably let op off with a warning, since he was kinda scary as a leader, but i don't think he would've giving it back to op like he wound up doing in the roop1&2