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No it's fact Nevermore. The transfomers you see today are popular, don't get me wrong, but it just can't approach how big they were back in the day. Were you around for those days? The people who were old enough to remember what the TF craze was like will know what I mean.

 

Today's transformers are no more popular than the other toys and cartoons out there. Some kid would like TF just as much as he would pokemon.

 

Back then man, when they first hit, you saw transformer EVERYTHING.

 

I don't really see your argument against that.

 

And my point on the toy discussion was that they could literally create anything they wanted as a toy. The toy could be designed to meet the requirements of safety laws. Hell I wouldn't even mind if they made him a laser gun. Your looking for realism in a movie like this, a movie where giant robots attack each other with laser guns, and transform into giant robots.

 

I'm not gonna sit here and go back and forth with you, it's obviously an opinionated difference, but the people involved in the movie will prove me right, they could care less about the newer transformers compared to the originals. There's no clamoring for any of the new ones, they are all clamoring for the old ones. That speaks my case for me, and the people involved with the actual creation of the movie agrees.

 

Chances are, we won't see a Gun Megatron, or a tape deck soundwave, and that will be a shame, but... cest la vie.

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Wow -- *two* "Movie Megs is a gun or Hasbro SUXX" threads already!

 

I think Nevermore hit it right on the head with his post about the animation errors in G1. Must absolutely *everything* be exactly the same as the G1 cartoon in order for you to accept this movie, Comfortador? And if so, what's the point of even making a movie in the first place? There's already a G1 Transformers movie out there. And you even get to see Megatron transforming into a gun (*and* Soundwave turning into a microcassette recorder).

 

Comfortador, clearly Megatron's G1 alt mode is a very important aspect of G1 to you. Fair enough. Some people disagree, however, including the people who will be producing this movie. And I really do think that you're being a bit reactionary to say that it's not going to be Transformers without a gun Megatron. Don't you see how inconsequential that is, in the grand scheme of things? Do the X-Men movies suck because they dress in black? Does Spider-Man suck because of Spidey's organic web shooters? Do those movies have *anything* at all to do with those details? Of course not.

 

What I am interested in is the story, and the characters they use in it. Ultimately that will determine the success of the film, not details that are only meaningful to a certain percentage of the TF fandom.

 

P.S. No one is allowed to use "Catwoman" as an example of what happens when you deviate from source material. That movie sucks for twenty million reasons, and I guarantee none of them are that she wasn't named "Selena Kyle."

:pfx VERY well said :clap

 

Really, some change can work out for the better and in this case, Megs not being a gun and Soundwave gaining a better alt. mode could be those times. Now if they made Starscream a Diablo in this movie or something COMPLETELY outta whack like that then I'd see where Confrontor is coming from but at any rate Megs becoming a tank works as:

 

1.He's been a tank before in various continuities, with success

2. Its a much deadlier instrument of destruction than some wimpy pistol ever could be

Man this film will be so awesome as long as Prime is a big truck as this is iconic and everyone rembers prime.

 

The tank issue is not an issue at all as it works well and makes sense to me. Any ideas as what the story is gonna be?

No it's fact Nevermore. The transfomers you see today are popular, don't get me wrong, but it just can't approach how big they were back in the day. Were you around for those days? The people who were old enough to remember what the TF craze was like will know what I mean.

 

Today's transformers are no more popular than the other toys and cartoons out there. Some kid would like TF just as much as he would pokemon.

 

Back then man, when they first hit, you saw transformer EVERYTHING.

 

I don't really see your argument against that.

 

And my point on the toy discussion was that they could literally create anything they wanted as a toy. The toy could be designed to meet the requirements of safety laws. Hell I wouldn't even mind if they made him a laser gun. Your looking for realism in a movie like this, a movie where giant robots attack each other with laser guns, and transform into giant robots.

 

I'm not gonna sit here and go back and forth with you, it's obviously an opinionated difference, but the people involved in the movie will prove me right, they could care less about the newer transformers compared to the originals. There's no clamoring for any of the new ones, they are all clamoring for the old ones. That speaks my case for me, and the people involved with the actual creation of the movie agrees.

 

Chances are, we won't see a Gun Megatron, or a tape deck soundwave, and that will be a shame, but... cest la vie.

For everyone one of you, there's a thousand other idiots exactly like you that share your views and ideas! The only problem is...Hasbro doesn't like you.

They don't want to deal with your kind, nor does the movie producer. They aren't making this movie for YOU, they're making it for FANS.

You, my friend, are not a fan..you are a troll with a purist attitude.

Man this film will be so awesome as long as Prime is a big truck as this is iconic and everyone rembers prime.

 

The tank issue is not an issue at all as it works well and makes sense to me. Any ideas as what the story is gonna be?

All we know so far is a basic description of Prime & Megs -- Prime believes in the sanctity of life, whereas Megs wants to exterminate all biological life. (Sounds a bit Beast Machines-ish to me.) But who knows if that will have anything to do with the story.

 

G1 Prime = truck

G2 Prime = truck

BW/BM Prime = MUNKY ;)

RiD Prime = truck (okay, a fire truck, but work with me here)

Armada Prime = truck

Energon Prime = truck

 

I think it's safe to say that in the movie, Prime will be.... a truck! :tfgrin

 

BTW look at how Megs' alt mode does in the same list:

G1 Megs = gun

G1 Galvy (hey, be fair, right?) = Cybertronian tank

G2 Megs = tank

BW/BM Megs = scary reptile that goes "rar"

RiD Megs / Galvy = ten things that aren't a gun

Armada Megs / Galvy = tank

Energon Megs = airplane thingy

 

So the winner is..... tank! (Plus DeSanto was speculating about "if Megatron is a tank, then...". hmm......)

No it's fact Nevermore.  The transfomers you see today are popular, don't get me wrong, but it just can't approach how big they were back in the day.  Were you around for those days?  The people who were old enough to remember what the TF craze was like will know what I mean.

 

Today's transformers are no more popular than the other toys and cartoons out there.  Some kid would like TF just as much as he would pokemon.

 

Back then man, when they first hit, you saw transformer EVERYTHING.

 

I don't really see your argument against that.

 

And my point on the toy discussion was that they could literally create anything they wanted as a toy.  The toy could be designed to meet the requirements of safety laws.  Hell I wouldn't even mind if they made him a laser gun.  Your looking for realism in a movie like this, a movie where giant robots attack each other with laser guns, and transform into giant robots. 

 

I'm not gonna sit here and go back and forth with you, it's obviously an opinionated difference, but the people involved in the movie will prove me right, they could care less about the newer transformers compared to the originals.  There's no clamoring for any of the new ones, they are all clamoring for the old ones.  That speaks my case for me, and the people involved with the actual creation of the movie agrees.

 

Chances are, we won't see a Gun Megatron, or a tape deck soundwave, and that will be a shame, but... cest la vie.

For everyone one of you, there's a thousand other idiots exactly like you that share your views and ideas! The only problem is...Hasbro doesn't like you.

They don't want to deal with your kind, nor does the movie producer. They aren't making this movie for YOU, they're making it for FANS.

You, my friend, are not a fan..you are a troll with a purist attitude.

ARGH!!! I'm agreeing with Bodycount *AGAIN*!!!!! It must be a sign of teh Apocalypse!!

 

:P

Purist: Yes

 

Troll: No.

 

Quit trying to incite a flame war, I'm not posting my stuff strictly for the purpose of aggravating others, whether thats what it is doing or not. I'm posting because it's what I feel. So take your troll comment and cram it. I was content with leaving it alone in the other thread, but everyone has to be so damned insulting.

 

People can vehemently disagree on topics, argue back and forth, without the need to call each other idiots, and other such names. If you can't do that, then maybe I'm not the idiot here.

Purist: Yes

 

Troll: No.

 

Quit trying to incite a flame war, I'm not posting my stuff strictly for the purpose of aggravating others, whether thats what it is doing or not. I'm posting because it's what I feel. So take your troll comment and cram it. I was content with leaving it alone in the other thread, but everyone has to be so damned insulting.

 

People can vehemently disagree on topics, argue back and forth, without the need to call each other idiots, and other such names. If you can't do that, then maybe I'm not the idiot here.

Comfortador, you look like you're new around here, so let me clue you in on something:

 

Bodycount lives to incite flame wars. Let's just say that his avatar is VERY appropriate...

I'm only a month older than you, I just usually read and not participate all that much. Depends on the topic, Issues I feel strongly about I will post on. Besides, you agreed with him, so it's not like you didn't support his views.

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