i just saw over at toy news international that hasbro has a weekly starwars question and answer with the fans. why not us havent we earned something like that?

 

Uh, this is a Transformers site. :D

TFs however are on the up and up profits wise.

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With a multi-million dollar film set for release next summer.

 

You guys think Transformers fans have it bad? 

Energon gave us homages of dozens of popular characters

Between Hasbro and Takara, nearly 1/3 (or more) of the 84/5 line has been reissued (of those they legally can that is)

Alternators is most vehicle fans' wet dream

G1 is being completely revisisted by Classics

Cybertron has given nearly EVERY fan a few toys that appeal to them be it beasts, Earthen modes, or scifi modes

You can take the past 3 lines and see a consistant evolution/aesthetic in the figure designs.

 

GI Joe 3.75 fans?

Until this past March, the line was only available through online outlets

Even then, after the first wave, most of the products have been repaints or minor remolds (new heads, think Cybertron Blurr).

The past 3 lines have had WILDLY varying design teams and brand direction, resulting in effectively 3-5 different lines depending on who's design you go with.

Sigma Six is effectively the Beast Wars of GI Joe

12" Joes are dead at retail, with overpriced convention items the extent of the offerings

 

It is one thing Starscream about the myriad of decisions Hasbro has made (gimmicks, character selection, etc), but by NO MEANS do TF fans have it bad.  Hell, the only fanbase that has it better would be the Star WArs fanbase.

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You DO realize that Beast Wars basically saved TFs, right? TFs wouldn't be around today if BW hadn't sold in the quantities it did.

You DO realize that Beast Wars basically saved TFs, right? TFs wouldn't be around today if BW hadn't sold in the quantities it did.

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If BW tanked, Hasbro would've tried something else.  If they allowed the Kenner logo on  one of their core brands, they can't have been too sure about it....

I wouldn't mind those Towline repaints, the ones repainted and slightly remoulded into Ironhide and Ratchet.  Those would be a nice thing for the fans, especially those who:

 

1:  Aren't American and can't go to the US TF conventions due to prices

 

2:  Can't afford to even go to the one UK TF convention

 

3:  Who are sick and tired of waiting for their area to actually get some new TF's in - It's been months and the only TF's that have appeared in my area were the reissue Micromaster Arielbots!  There haven't even been any new SWTF's!  It makes me want to move to the US, for one of three reasons.  The last two aren't related to TF's in any way.

 

-Chuckles

 

You DO realize that Beast Wars basically saved TFs, right? TFs wouldn't be around today if BW hadn't sold in the quantities it did.

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If BW tanked, Hasbro would've tried something else.  If they allowed the Kenner logo on  one of their core brands, they can't have been too sure about it....

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Except that Kenner actually designed it and stuff. Kenner was still semi-independant at the time, it hadn't been fully absorbed by Hasbro, just owned by them.

Hasbro

 

Pros:

- Has every character in Cybertron and more.

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Oh yea? What about those lampost and phone booth guys?

What about a crystal/ghost Vector Prime

 

They make ghost toys for Star Wars!

 

:roll

 

You DO realize that Beast Wars basically saved TFs, right? TFs wouldn't be around today if BW hadn't sold in the quantities it did.

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If BW tanked, Hasbro would've tried something else.  If they allowed the Kenner logo on  one of their core brands, they can't have been too sure about it....

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Except that Kenner actually designed it and stuff. Kenner was still semi-independant at the time, it hadn't been fully absorbed by Hasbro, just owned by them.

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Transformers was in no way a "core brand" when BW came out, it was dead.

 

If BW hadn't been a success I'm not sure we'd still have TFs today, Hasbro might have tried again, but the engineering that goes into the toys makes it a much riskier proposition than simply making a few "standard-type" action figures (such as the aborted restart of the MOTU brand).

 

You DO realize that Beast Wars basically saved TFs, right? TFs wouldn't be around today if BW hadn't sold in the quantities it did.

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If BW tanked, Hasbro would've tried something else.  If they allowed the Kenner logo on  one of their core brands, they can't have been too sure about it....

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Except that Kenner actually designed it and stuff. Kenner was still semi-independant at the time, it hadn't been fully absorbed by Hasbro, just owned by them.

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Transformers was in no way a "core brand" when BW came out, it was dead.

 

If BW hadn't been a success I'm not sure we'd still have TFs today, Hasbro might have tried again, but the engineering that goes into the toys makes it a much riskier proposition than simply making a few "standard-type" action figures (such as the aborted restart of the MOTU brand).

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I tihnk you quoted the wrong post. :tflaugh

 

also, I thoguht TFs were on their last leg when BW came out, not outright dead.

 

You DO realize that Beast Wars basically saved TFs, right? TFs wouldn't be around today if BW hadn't sold in the quantities it did.

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If BW tanked, Hasbro would've tried something else.  If they allowed the Kenner logo on  one of their core brands, they can't have been too sure about it....

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Except that Kenner actually designed it and stuff. Kenner was still semi-independant at the time, it hadn't been fully absorbed by Hasbro, just owned by them.

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Transformers was in no way a "core brand" when BW came out, it was dead.

 

If BW hadn't been a success I'm not sure we'd still have TFs today, Hasbro might have tried again, but the engineering that goes into the toys makes it a much riskier proposition than simply making a few "standard-type" action figures (such as the aborted restart of the MOTU brand).

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I tihnk you quoted the wrong post. :tflaugh

 

also, I thoguht TFs were on their last leg when BW came out, not outright dead.

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I quoted the right post, I should have just added an "also" to the beginning of my post as I was essentially adding to your argument.

 

I'd say by 1995 Transformers was pretty much irrelevent/dead.  I don't think there had been any toys released in the US for a couple of years until BW restarted things.

 

You DO realize that Beast Wars basically saved TFs, right? TFs wouldn't be around today if BW hadn't sold in the quantities it did.

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If BW tanked, Hasbro would've tried something else.  If they allowed the Kenner logo on  one of their core brands, they can't have been too sure about it....

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Except that Kenner actually designed it and stuff. Kenner was still semi-independant at the time, it hadn't been fully absorbed by Hasbro, just owned by them.

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Transformers was in no way a "core brand" when BW came out, it was dead.

 

If BW hadn't been a success I'm not sure we'd still have TFs today, Hasbro might have tried again, but the engineering that goes into the toys makes it a much riskier proposition than simply making a few "standard-type" action figures (such as the aborted restart of the MOTU brand).

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I tihnk you quoted the wrong post. :tflaugh

 

also, I thoguht TFs were on their last leg when BW came out, not outright dead.

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I quoted the right post, I should have just added an "also" to the beginning of my post as I was essentially adding to your argument.

 

I'd say by 1995 Transformers was pretty much irrelevent/dead.  I don't think there had been any toys released in the US for a couple of years until BW restarted things.

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YOU FORGOT G2?!

 

1991(or 2) to 1995.