without both of them the autobots would have been screwed in the movie.

 

It was Daniel who noticed that the shuttle had been broken into and hotrod that alerted the autobots about the decepticons by firing upon the shuttle. without them the decepticons would have landed at autobot city and taken the autobots inside before they had time to react.

Good point....I never disliked hot rod all That much....daniel...yes i still can not stand, however very good point....you also have to remember that without hot rod...Optimus may not have gotten the crud blasted out of him...he could have blasted the crud out megs...

Good point....I never disliked hot rod all That much....daniel...yes i still can not stand, however very good point....you also have to remember that without hot rod...Optimus may not have gotten the crud blasted out of him...he could have blasted the crud out megs...

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And probably would have, considering his "no matter the cost" comment.

but prime would have not got the message to get to earth because Magnus would have been too dead to relay the order to blaster to get a message across

Well, we can't tell that for sure. I'm not convinced that Autobot City was setting there completely defenseless.

well seeing how arcee and springer literally had to run to transform autobot city so it could fight back and that it was all knackard before prime and the dinobots arrived...

I didn't see Autobot City do all that much even after it transformed. It's too bad that Metroplex wasn't operational. :P

I didn't see Autobot City do all that much even after it transformed. It's too bad that Metroplex wasn't operational. :P

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Scamble City Predates TFTM. :P

I just think that Metroplex was too heavaly damaged in his fight against Tyripticon or something to fight the cons.

I didn't see Autobot City do all that much even after it transformed. It's too bad that Metroplex wasn't operational. :P

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Scamble City Predates TFTM. :P

I just think that Metroplex was too heavaly damaged in his fight against Tyripticon or something to fight the cons.

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Hence, my comment about "if he was operational." :tard

The pond scene was very nice when i first saw the movie.  It was the calm before the storm.