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I'm just going to say this. Whatever Bay and Spielberg decide to do with Transformers it's bound to be a vast improvement from what was known as G1. G1 started Tfs, began the mythos, gave us the characters. Everything since has been an improvement in some way or other. Beastwars/Beastmachines gave us a decent story arc, and well developed characters, and A/E/C though in a lot of ways a step back gave us pretty much the same. In my opinion anyway.

 

Lets let Bay, and Spielberg do their jobs and kindly stop forcing G1 nostalga at them. I really don't want to sit through a movie where Megatron attaches a hose to a vat of oil and magically creates Energon. That IMO does not translate well into a movie.

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Though I stand by my original statement, I agree we should all just leave the movie making to the professionals.

do we know the exact year BM took place? it's possible that even tohugh it had the BW characters, it could have taken place eons after G1

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I have no real answer to the problem other than to adjust the time of Beast Wars... move that forward into the future (waaaaayyy forward) and everything works out fine. Except for the existence of Ravage... he'd have to be the oldest Cybertronian on the planet.

 

crap

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Maybe they found him in an old tape deck.

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maybe in a crashed corvette no-less

 

i guess this discussion begs the question:

if the maximals are flying around in a space ship how did Waspinator manually out run them all the way back to cybertron???

 

and would that in fact make him older than G1-ravage?

do we know the exact year BM took place? it's possible that even tohugh it had the BW characters, it could have taken place eons after G1

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well... that's a good question. You would think that Primal and his crew would have set the transwarp drive on that Autobot shuttle to get them back to the right time when they got back home to Cybertron. They never explicitly said so, but you would think they'd done that.

 

But then Rattrap is surprised to find out that Nightscream has a built-in DNA scanner, a feature which was apparently given to all Cybertronians while Primal's crew was "gone". Of course, when you're gone because you went back in time, when you come back not time would have elapsed at all. Then again, you could get around that by saying "well maybe Primal's crew was in space for a long time." Even so, the fact that they had no knowledge at all that a planet-wide upgrade was happening in their absence...

 

What I'm getting to is: we don't know if Primal's crew arrived on Cybertron at the right time. They could have arrived a lot later than they were supposed to. (But this isn't a requirement of the story because Megatron got there before them anyway, and presumably had enough time to do everything he did before the Maximals showed up.) But "eons" later? That's a stretch.

 

Bob Skir always envisioned BM as taking place a loooooooong time after G1 though. Which is why the Maximals are constantly surprised to find that things from the G1 era are real and not just "legends". It's been that long.

 

I have no real answer to the problem other than to adjust the time of Beast Wars... move that forward into the future (waaaaayyy forward) and everything works out fine. Except for the existence of Ravage... he'd have to be the oldest Cybertronian on the planet.

 

crap

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one thing... Starscream's betrail had been forgotten by the time of BW, so it's possible other stuff was forgotten as well... Ravage's upgrade was a rumor as well, IIRC. you'd think they'd know about his upgrade....

The military.... :usa  :schin

All the posts and talk about the original voices --- could we just let it rest for a while? I heard everyone, I'm thinking about it.

 

:inheek

 

Did everybody see that?!?!?

 

 

the director himself said "STFU, KTHX!!!!!"

 

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do we know the exact year BM took place? it's possible that even tohugh it had the BW characters, it could have taken place eons after G1

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I have no real answer to the problem other than to adjust the time of Beast Wars... move that forward into the future (waaaaayyy forward) and everything works out fine. Except for the existence of Ravage... he'd have to be the oldest Cybertronian on the planet.

 

crap

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Maybe they found him in an old tape deck.

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maybe in a crashed corvette no-less

 

i guess this discussion begs the question:

if the maximals are flying around in a space ship how did Waspinator manually out run them all the way back to cybertron???

 

and would that in fact make him older than G1-ravage?

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The Maximals were traveling forward in time.... Waspinator wasn't. "Took forever" was NOT an exaggeration. :tflaugh

I say we be quiet, sit back and let them make their turkey.

I say we be quiet, sit back and let them make their turkey.

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then Starscream afterwards?

*hopes for original voices*

I say we be quiet, sit back and let them make their turkey.

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then Starscream afterwards?

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At least there would be specific things to complain about.