My Vote is with the valkaries.  The Bullets as one person said are armored piercing rounds, not only that there or hundreds of them fired at once.  If they were to train on a certain spot they could crack the armor.  Also if you go back to "Transformers The Movie"  If just driving a car through Unicron's eyes blinds him how hard is it for a crack shot like Max or Miriya to shoot them in the eyes.

 

Second a valkary carries enough ammunition with the armored mode to decimate a Zentradi ship.  I don't think any transformer would be able to withstand that much firepower for a period of time.

 

Third, The valkaries are military you would never see one of them alone in a battle.  You would be dealing with one and a wing man at the same time.

All Jetfire has to do is target the pilot.

 

KILL ALL THE HUMANS

(except for Fry)

how valkyrie pilots benfit from different modes 101

 

bird mode (jet)

pros:

in jet mode they are quicker and fly @ different speeds

cons: speed is all they rely on, cant really target enemies when you are traveling so fast

 

battroid mode (robot mode)

pros:

they can lock on to targets and demolish them with percision

cons: limited flight and slow moving on the ground makes them easy targets

 

gerwalk mode (teh half mode)

pros:

in this mode the pilot is able to benifit from its robot and airplane modes...  with arms out and legs inverted it has some speed and decent manuverability. it could target, use micro missles, and has decent aiming

cons: because it is the balanced or half way between the three modes you cant expect to sniper or make a quick getaway in this mode.

 

the valkyrie is only as good as its pilot. and if a GOOD pilot could use these different modes effectively, the valkyrie would be the most lethal weapon.

 

edit: and make mine macross/yamato!

The Gorillaz!

 

Murdok himself would be able to do major damage.  No tellin' what kind of powers he has up his sleaves.

Jetfire would win......humans have flaws. machines dont make mistakes, only the Creators of the machines improperly programed them.....lol wut i sed was a load of crap. i dont know much about valkeries, nor do i know how to spell it.

*Votes for Devastator pwning them all...wait...that's not an option. NULL VOTE*

One vote for Jetfire/Skyfire.

 

Sure he is a pacifist but even those fight back if attacked.

 

And remember, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Humans are extremely fragile. They can get motion sick, they die of radiation and can be made insane quite easily.

 

A Transformer would only need to attack the human inside the jet and there are a large number of ways that can be done.

 

1 Rip the cockpit open and pull out the human.

1a hypnotize the human/infuse him with a cerebro shell and he will do your bidding, even kill himself.

2a Make a small hole in the cockpit and the human will suffocate.

2b If they have air masks then simply spray toxin though the hole.

2c Or an Autobot who minds the invironment could use ants. They are nasty too.5

2d Or laugh gas.

2e Neutron radiation also works.

2f Itching powder.

All those will distract the human, making it easier to kill him.

 

3 One could also use a full force blast to blast the cockpit to pieces. Worked on Star Trek Enterpise with the bridge.

4 A Transformer could wait in hiding from/in an human to need food or go to the bathroom so the human could not hide from/in an ambush forever. Then kill him as he in a hurry to pee or eat.

5 Wait for him to die of starvation.

6 Pipe horrible music though the comm. A Transformer could shut down his audiosensors if he even cares about music. I do not know about you but after an hour of certain types of music I am ready to kill myself.  :tftongue

 

Well fill the rest in yourself.  :tflaugh

 

In short, there is no way a Transformer could lose to a human. The Headmasters were humanoids working along Transformers. A human controlling a machine is still a lowly human.

*knows Skyfire was a major wuss*

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:tflaugh1  :pfx

 

Skyfire might have a chance if he fights in a warm waether climate,

otherwise he would get buried in ice :tftongue

Jetfire would win, flying is as natural for him as walking is for us, a human pilot just would not be able to keep up.

And that headmaster thing was stupid, i always failed to see how having two personalities in one body is an advantage.

Hey hey, TFs make mistakes too, cough* hotrod and later reincarnations cough*, and Roy Fokker pawns all.