Leaked Transformers Listings for 2023 & 2024 News & Discussion Topic

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Preemptive comment:

Leader SS86 Galvatron. 

I don't know what to say about this. I'm not 100% happy with Kingdom Galvatron and I love Galvatron so I'm down for another take. Assuming it's a brand new take that is.

Leader SS86 Megatron.

A few months ago after the last major set of leaks I gave up on something like this. I just kind of thought that Siege Megatron was the best we were going to get. Earthrise Megatron still sucks though. I got a bunch of upgrade kits for all my Siege base mold Megatrons, got the BPF OSKO Siege Megatron and just got in a Takara Legends Megatron with the DX9 upgrade kit just to try and calm my Megatron urge.

So these two, the also rumored SS86 Optimus and SS86 Ultra Magnus all beg a question.

That being are these all going to be a new scale or are they going to stick to the current scale.

I mean, SS86 Ultra Magnus isn't in scale but I don't mind that as he should be super mode sized as he's combining with his trailer. What I did mind though was that Kingdom Galvatron was also out of scale. Which is what prompted me to get some of those upgrade kits for my Megatrons and the OSKO in the first place. So are these three "new" figures going to be in scale with Kingdom rodimus Prime and the rest of current Generations or are they going to scale to the out of scale SS86 Magnus making them around the height of Kingdom Galvatron anyway. I would imagine that this doesn't bother people that much and normally it wouldn't bother me either but Megatron, Galvatron, Optimus and Rodimus are supposed to be the same size and I just can't get away from that in my head. So having one bigger than the others is really bugging me but this can be fixed by a new, shorter, Galvatron mold.

I don't want another leader Galvatron the same size as Kingdom Galvatron. I would want him, as well as Optimus and Megatron, to all be the same height as Kingdom Rodimus. This way more of the budget can go into the parts count and toolings to really get them to hide and tuck intrusive kibble out of the way to make them as accurate as possible (what does that even mean for SS86 Megatron's alt mode now though). We seen what happens when making a larger leader Galvatron already. So making him shorter should allow for the designers to mitigate the tread kibble on the backs of the arms or to compress the cannon rear down more and design it to be more accurate and to change a few other things.

I really hope SS86 Galvatron isn't just a redeco along the lines of SS86 Cliffjumper though. That was an exclusive so it's somewhat questionable if it even really truly counts as a SS86 figure but it does exist. I would just be so disappointed with this if they do go that route instead of a new mold. Like Earthrise Optimus and Kingdom Ultra Magnus, Kingdom Galvatron just doesn't compare to Kingdom Rodimus, SS86 Hot Rod and SS86 Magnus. The extra budgets for them really shown though despite what some naysayers would claim. So I'd love an Optimus, Megatron and Galvatron to go right along with them. 

More elaborate transformations. More transformation "tricks". More and better articulation. More and better paint apps. Little to no kibble at all really as Rodimus, Hot Rod and Magnus are almost entirely kibble free and super clean in robot mode and have beautifully streamlined alt modes. Higher parts count be it for transformation parts or just more weapons. I can do without blast effects or things like Matrix chains though but at least Optimus will have blast effects and Galvatron will have the Matrix chain. I'm all about swords, axes, flails, guns, beam sabers, jet packs or whatever else the toys had or they used on the show and movie. No basketballs though lol. For Optimus that would also include BOTH mobile drones (Roller and that other one he had from time to time made from the rear trailer wheels it seemed) and a really good "repair" drone thing. 

I might be hyping myself up too much though. It's really too early to tell how these will turn out.

And SS86 Galvatron will come out about four years after Kingdom Galvatron first did. That's not too bad really. Sure it seems like he JUST came out but we're at the halfway point. By the time he does actually hit shelves, people will want a new Galvatron. It's also why I think it will be a new mold too. If it were just a redeco or even a slight retool, it could've been pushed up into this year or put out as some sort of exclusive like some of the Buzzworthy Studio Series redecos. But it's coming out in 2025 with Megatron supposedly. So that really does give me hope for a new mold.

We used to get new mold updates for many characters year after year for a while there from OG Generations (Optimus and Megs) to FoC (Optimus) to T30 (Optimus, Orion and 2 Megs) to CW (Optimus and Megs) to TR (2 Optimus and Megs) to PotP (Optimus/Orion) to Siege (Optimus and Megs) to Earthrise (Optimus and Megs) to Kingdom (Optimus and Megs) to Legacy 1 (Optimus). Not including, redecos of older toys still being released in market 6 stores, exclusives like VNR, Japanese releases, mostly non-G1/2 versions or any of the Starscreams that were also being released alongside them. Waiting four years for a new mold of a character is not going to be an actual issue. It's G1 Galvatron, he should have more toys than he actually does. It's crazy how few figures he actually gets compared to his contemporaries. G1, Universe 2.0, Titans Return and Kingdom. That's it. That's all the Galvatron molds. Dude can get another.

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Hey Core Dinobot and Deluxe Sureshot are still coming out. Good.

G2 Breakdown and Armada Wheeljack are new though. I'm not too worried about Armada Wheeljack's listing not having Whisper included as Sureshot's listing doesn't have Spoilsport in it but will most likely be included if Pointblank is any indication. Sucks about the rest of the G2 Stunticons not having new names though. It also sucks I never found Sideswipe or Dead End too. I imagine they'll be at Ross soon enough.

I do want another Cosmos just for the gun. I never found one at Ross. Not that I went to more than one store to check though lol. The whole shit with signing up for their credit card bummed me out. They wouldn't let me use it that same day like every other store does when you sign up in store. I had to wait two weeks for the card to come in. It took two days just for them to email me the temp code to use in store the same day. Like seriously? How do you not know how this shit is supposed to work but I digress.

Couldn't care less about Ramjet and Tarn as I have them already. 

I do want more Galaxy Shuttle though. I got the one but was a bit tight on money at the time so didn't push it to get the other two I wanted. Again, I never found one at Ross. I just really wish they came plain black and white with both heads and had two decal sheets. One to turn it into Galaxy Shuttle and the other into Takara's G1 Astrotrain. The third I wanted will be made into Spay-C. Based more on her Super Gobots toy than her standard one. Shame the robot mode is mostly white as a fourth could've been used for Loco. Not that the black paints I have don't work well on Transformers. I just haven't felt up to doing any more customs these past few years. Work takes a lot out of me mentally. Not that I dwell on it or anything, it just takes me out of things.

Anyway, Overcharge is both nice to see and bad to see. I did my part of getting two Blitzwings to try and move things along. I kind of did some mods to my first one I wanted to go back on and the reissue was like $25 so why not pick up a new one right? Hopefully Overcharge will go on sale quickly. I'll pick up a few to bolster out my Quintesson army. It's quite sizable now and will only get better with some Overcharge drones. I should pick up some more Sparkless Seekers to add them to the army as well. I already have three but they're so cheap now so it wouldn't hurt too much to get some more to help clean up digital shelves. 

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The hits just keep on coming. And there's still more as there's been no core or commander class leaks yet.

Crasher package refresh. Cool I guess. Got three from Ross so I'm not looking for one anymore. Still think this should've used the Dragstrip mold and that Slicks should use the Mirage mold. Also, the Kingdom Mirage mold sucks but the Siege molds is great.

Aerialbots are cool but there's not really much to say other than that.

Swindle. Not much to go on with no universe descriptor or other Combaticons leaked. Oh wait, it will be Armada Swindle lol. Deluxe is a bit large for for a Minicon for a voyager figure but hey, why not right.

Wasp is Wasp. Nice to see him but not much to say really.

Venom. Now we're getting somewhere. I wonder if he'll be a slight retool of Kickback, a redeco with a new head of Kickback or a new mold entirely with another use lined up. I'm going to go with a slight retool of Kickback. They're not going to go nuts with this since they didn't for Ransack. Meaning that it's going to look inaccurate intentionally (like the Gobots I would imagine) to look like the standard Insecticons. So a new mold would need to look like them as well which wouldn't really lend itself to anything else. So a retool along the lines of Shrapnel to Bombshell should work. Change around half the figure kind of thing. Would be nice to see the two "missing" deluxe Insecticons too. The Barrage retool and the ladybug. G1 Saberhorn and Glowstrike? Damn, that works actually.

Voyager Armada Red Alert. Cool. There's plenty of redeco potential with that mold. Orange Alert (Powerlinx), Blue Alert (Prowl) and Actually Red Red Alert (Inferno). If they're feeling frisky with the retools, maybe even Animated Red Alert and Flashpoint?

Voyager Sky-Byte. That's him! It's about time he got another big toy. 

Edit add in: Voyager RESCUE BOTS Heatwave. It's a voyager so we know it won't be a Mirage Retool or a Sludge retool. I mean, it could be a three headed dragon but I want my three headed dragons to be commander class retools of each other (Prime Predaking, SS Dragonstorm and Cybertron Scourge). So YAY, another red fire truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not salty or anything, just poking a little fun. HOWEVER...I'm really curious as to what's going to happen with Nexus Prime now. I speculated that the appearance of the Aerialbots and maybe Combaticons were going to lead to Nexus Prime but that might not be the case. Why you ask? Because the torso for Nexus Prime that used the Energon Barricade mold which was based on Onslaught is also named Heatwave. So will there be TWO Heatwave's in this new 13 Primes line/trilogy? They could get away with the second so long as Nexus Prime is released as a box set. That way they won't have two Heatwaves at retail. Maybe Nexus will be the titan for the third year. That should give them enough time to get both Superion and the potential Bruticus out before doing Nexus from their parts. Silverbolt being the first year's commander and Onslaught being the second year's. The third year's could be a real Last Autobot instead of the ark I mentioned earlier but read down below since this is all being typed after the fact. Nevermind, he would be a Vector Prime retool and they won't be doing Vector Prime at commander I would imagine if both Onyx and Megatronus are leaders. So leader at most for Vector prime but also with Safeguard included. EDIT AGAIN: Vector Prime is coming this year isn't he lol. So there goes that idea of him being a leader WITH Safeguard as he's a voyager without. So it seems he was both a Legacy character and an clue to the next line. Kinda like CW Buzzsaw way back when now. But that again opens up the possibility of the Last Autobot being a commander.

Flatline? Wow, okay. But uh, why not in Studio Series? At least two characters named Flatline should be released in Studio Series for multiple reasons. Could be a new character based on one of the three versions that barely exist. Kinda like the Fossilizers and Junkions and whatnot. 

G2 Grimlock. Blue or teal? There's three G2 Grimlocks and we have the yellow one already. So we know it's not that one. But will it be the blue that most people know or the teal that those who are in the know, know. Most likely blue as most people don't even realize that the blue and the teal are different. They look distinctly different but most would need to see them side by side to realize that the one they had as a kid was different to the one everyone else had. 

On to the Primes. What this next line is seemingly named after. Somewhat of a return to PotP. The original 13 all done as either deluxe, voyager or leader figures. Do they have a gimmick like the Junkions (even if Trashmaster barely had the gimmick)? Calling it now though, Megatronus will be a retool of SS86 Megatron or Galvatron. Nevermind, it's a reuse of CW Megatron lol. He's next to me right now. Just move the treads into the Armada Megatron position and there's your Megatronus. Just like that one black KO of the mold lol. Looking forward to Onyx Prime. A centaur is going to be a cool looking figure. You know what, I wonder if they're even going to transform. The 13 aren't always shown having alt modes. I wonder how they'll handle Nexus Prime. Is that why we're getting Superion and seemingly Bruticus? And poor Logos Prime got kicked out of the 13 so no new Cybertron Soundwave mold incoming lol. We technically already have one though. The Ark. The Last Autobot was in the same 13 that Logos Prime was in. Maybe they'll do all 20 13 Primes lol.

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Just thought about it a bit more. Or rather, I was really tired last night when I typed this and just woke up clear headed and something popped into my head.

That's pretty much the entirety of 2025 right? We also know pretty much everything coming this year too right?

Where the fuck is Armada Jetfire and/or Overload?

THIS is why Omega Prime would've been horrible at retail, especially as two retail level commanders. We get Armada Prime in 2023. No leaks for Jetfire or Overload for 2024. Now no leaks for either in 2025 either. Meaning we'll have to wait to complete them until 2026 barring any surprises or a double pack or something. Maybe both together as a commander class but that would be weirder than the thought of Hook and Long Haul together as a commander.

Imagine waiting for three years to complete Omega Prime. They would never release them both in the same year. They wouldn't even be released in consecutive years if we're being honest. So it would be just as long to HOPE that they don't cancel Ultra Magnus that we're waiting now hoping to complete Magna Jet Convoy. The Armada boys even have several deco options too (quite a few more than the RiD boys anyway) so it's not like they can't recoup some of the costs of the molds. Hell, Jetfire even has retool potential...not that they'd do another Galaxy Shuttle ever again especially with this package refresh but GoBots Spay-C is an option. I WILL have that Spay-C update lololololololol.

Going back to the idea of them being released as a commander together though as I thought more about it while typing. Maybe they could work in another combined mode between the two. Use Overload as the torso and arms and Jetfire obviously as the legs. It's something I always wanted to have done with the originals and it was almost possible too but the connectors just didn't line up between them. It would almost be a throwback to G1 Jetfire and the Valkyrie armor in a way. I doubt that will ever happen though. Just trying to give myself some hope to getting them both sooner than 2026.

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These recent reveals are a dream come true, but I find myself in such disbelief for many other reasons. I'm having such a hard time believing these rumors are true because the last year or so of Hasbro tf's have been lackluster at best, and now it's a total 180 from before. This company in such dire financial straights, it's going to he laying off more staff and they are releasing all of this?! We haven't even been shown ss86 Swoop yet, so I'll believe it when I see these releases,  until then, I'll start saving money just in case we get this stuff.