Masterpiece Megatron

[Dark_Lord_Prime]

I my self am still wish I had the money to buy a Masterpiece Optimus Prime, but school has to come first.

 

But onto the real point?.I have not seen anyone talk about the responsibility of Takara/Hasbro and the possible repercussions of making a super realistic hand gun transformer. After all is that not what transfans would want a Masterpiece Megatron to be (alt mode). Needless to say I?m not trying to judge anyone who wants megs to be able to transformer (as I think we would all love that), just want people to think about the possible repercussions of such a toy.

*SIGH*

 

Nobody is asking for a dead-on metal replica of a real P38.

 

His G1 alt-mode didn't look like a dead-on replica. Besides, as I said in an earlier post, there's no reason his alt-mode has to be realistic size, since he obviously transformed into a huge gun every time Starscream or Prime used him.

 

It's not like Prime turns into a realistically-sized semi cab.

[WRX-78]

No need for ActionMasterpiece Megs. Get Takara to build a working one and us slaving fanboys will import him.

This, unfortunately, is a lot less likely than was the reissue. A Megatron on a Masterpiece scale would so closely approximate an actual existing firearm, both in weight and appearance, that any instance of misunderstandings on the street or in homes or with the law would meet with immediate and total retribution, like crack-down hard core. Whatever the sentence is for importing illegal items, and for the sale of illegal items in the U.S., you can rest assured that whoever is the cuplrit for a Masterpiece Megatron is going to be prosecuted to the full-on ACTUAL extent of the law, like big time. Hard Core. Seriously.

Yep, thats unfortunately how it is these days. Even if Takara makes a transformable masterpiece megs, I wouldnt even bother trying to import it.

That's a bit ill informed, since I have with me *tada* re-issue Megatron. I'm asumming plenty others got him no trouble. Which arguably is a better representation of a P38 in size than would a in scale with MP Convoy, Megs.

 

You can buy air guns and paint ball guns that fall outside of the firearms regulations - yet are dead on realistic. More so than any transforming toy.

[Matrix Magnus]

I agree with WRX-78. Replicas of real handguns are sold outside of gun laws. You can also get a replica of the Nick Fury gun that looks like a real gun with no problem. In MP Megs case I don't think it would be a problem because I don't think the size would be realistic. He gun mode would probably bigger than a Desert Eagle whic is a pretty big gun. I wouldn't be a dead on replication of a gun.

[Donkeystyle]

Those things are not sold as "toys" though. Thats the difference. Yes, you can buy model guns, but you can't buy them at walmart or toysrus, and if Hasbro can't recoop the high development costs of a masterpiece megatron, why would they make it?

[unkle73]

There's only a certain type of Transformer we will see in Alternators/Binaltech, and that's automobiles, unfortunately. This is why I think the Masterpiece line exists, to give true fans accurate TV/comic versions of classic characters with cool extras. So as far as the Masterpieces are concerned, anything's possible. Don't hold your breath for a new version of any gestalts like Superion or Devastator, they would be far too costly to make and sell, as much as we'd love to see them. Ultra Magnus would be great, but this would also be stupidly expensive.

There's no feasible way Fortress Maximus or Metroplex can be remade as an MP, they're just too big for a realistic toy.

Look at MP Prime, my one has trouble supporting his own weight, and when in a simple action pose with his legs slightly apart as in the image on the box (Japanese version), his sheer weight simply causes his legs to do the splits, meaning a decent "at-ease" pose is impossible.

 

Megatron and Starscream are the 2 best choices for next MP releases. It doesn't really matter if Starscream's jet mode isn't quite to the scale of Prime or the Alternators, just as long as his robot mode is roughly the same height as Prime (realisitically, I think this is a happy medium). Takara could easily make this toy, and he'd be awesome in full die-cast, featuring a mini-Megatron (just like Prime) and looking practically show accurate. Wings mounted right BEHIND his shoulders, not on the sides of his legs, and the nose-cone folded away into his body, not connected to his head.

Megatron would be tricky, it's true, and I must admit, has to be the ultimate challenge for any manufacturer, let alone the technical brilliance of Takara. Initially I did assume he would be made into something like a Desert Eagle, but scale does become an issue for his robot form, and the legality of having an accurate looking toy gun available to kids in the 'States is an impossibility in this day and age.

The only solution I can see to this problem is to have him transform into something else. Such as a tank. I'm not talking about the G2 tank Megatron or the poor Armada version, but something resembling the awesome Dreamwave comic War Within design (actually originally designed to transform accurately).

Failing that, I seem to remember someone doing their own kitbash of a "super" version of Megatron who opposed Star Convoy in the latter series of Transformers on Japanese TV/toys. He transformed into a mounted gun, or mobile gun similar to G1 Galvatron, but looked very very close to the original TV show G1 Megatron. The images may be somewhere on the Transfandom site, or BigBot or somewhere. I can't quite remember where, it's been a while!

It would be the greatest to have a full-size gun Megatron, and thinking about how big a Desert Eagle is, I think he would be pretty close to MP Op's robot-mode scale. But I can't really see it happening, so these suggestions are the only way I think we'll ever see a decent MP G1 homage to our favourite bad guy.

 

The only other characters I can think of that should be remade, are of course, Arcee(I have shots of a show-accurate kitbash - fully painted to prove it's possible), Grimlock (probably the best suggestion ever come to think of it), Springer (if his triple-change feature could be properly implemented), Ratchett and Ironhide, Prowl, Jazz, Sunstreaker, Wheeljack, Trailbreaker, Kup, Blurr and Bumblebee & Cliffjumper. We all already know Tracks, Hound and the as-yet unnamed Mazda RX-8 are all on their way, so I won't include these, but all the others should be carefully considered by Takara. I couldn't care less if Hasbro weren't involved, if you're a true Transformers fan, you'll get everything on import anyway!

 

I may upset a few people by saying this though - I really DON'T want to see a remake of Hot Rod. Or "Rodimus" Prime. He was one of the illest conceived characters ever in the history of the line, and the new toys and comics would be much better off without his presence. Now that would be a waste of Takara's resources, when they could be gracing us with one of the other characters from above.

Worthy of inheriting the Matrix from Optimus? I don't think so!

Why has there been no "Hot Rod" character equivalent in Beast Wars II, Beast Wars Neo or Robots In Disguise? All the leaders were, in every respect, alternate (and superb) versions of the original Optimus Prime, with all his features. And no resemblance of Hotrod.

Anyway, I digress...

 

I must admit, the Alternator/Binaltech and Masterpiece lines are quite big, meaning that any larger figures fans might want to see, like the aforementioned Fort Max and Ultra Magnus are difficult to make in this 1:24 scale. I would actually pay for smaller scale versions of these toys (die-cast or not) around the same scale as the Robots In Disguise line, even though I already own most of the Binal Tech line and the MP Prime. Being able to play with these figures and pose them without the fear of damaging them, or having them fall over thanks to their sheer mass would be a definate plus in my humble opinion. Especially if it made a new G1-anime accurate Ultra Magnus and Fort Max (or even Predaking) able to go into production.

 

And lastly, who cares if they do an MP Shockwave? I'd be happy to just see a commemorative re-release fer crying out loud! C'mon Hasbro! Where the hell is he?

[junktea1]

Nah. That's like buying those lame toy busts. :tftounge

[wraithlord]

I've got a bizarre thought (let's see what you all think) the problem: Megs is currently illegal under US toy laws due to turning into a handgun, not to mention the fact that to make him an accurate walther p-38 he would be waist high to MP Prime, otherwise he would be a giant 2/1 repilica of the gun he is to become (which would make him legal for US Toy laws albeit silly) my solution (besides the obvious non transforming Megs) is to change megatron's Alt form, the logical choice would be Artiliery, (realistic artilery in Gunmetal grey or chrome) which could retain a similar transformation to Megatron without turning into a problematic Alt form, the only other problem is that the scope/fuzion cannon would probably be a seperate item as opposed to part of him, but I think that is a small price to pay :)

[scotty26]

I'd buy one only because I have a Prime already and need Megatron :) Besides, I will keep him MUSB so there'd be no point in me asking for a transformable one anyway

that's sick :wtf

[scotty26]

I my self am still wish I had the money to buy a Masterpiece Optimus Prime, but school has to come first.

 

But onto the real point?.I have not seen anyone talk about the responsibility of Takara/Hasbro and the possible repercussions of making a super realistic hand gun transformer.  After all is that not what transfans would want a Masterpiece Megatron to be (alt mode).  Needless to say I?m not trying to judge anyone who wants megs to be able to transformer (as I think we would all love that), just want people to think about the possible repercussions of such a toy.

*SIGH*

 

Nobody is asking for a dead-on metal replica of a real P38.

 

His G1 alt-mode didn't look like a dead-on replica. Besides, as I said in an earlier post, there's no reason his alt-mode has to be realistic size, since he obviously transformed into a huge gun every time Starscream or Prime used him.

 

It's not like Prime turns into a realistically-sized semi cab.

good point! :thumb

[scotty26]

No need for ActionMasterpiece Megs. Get Takara to build a working one and us slaving fanboys will import him.

This, unfortunately, is a lot less likely than was the reissue. A Megatron on a Masterpiece scale would so closely approximate an actual existing firearm, both in weight and appearance, that any instance of misunderstandings on the street or in homes or with the law would meet with immediate and total retribution, like crack-down hard core. Whatever the sentence is for importing illegal items, and for the sale of illegal items in the U.S., you can rest assured that whoever is the cuplrit for a Masterpiece Megatron is going to be prosecuted to the full-on ACTUAL extent of the law, like big time. Hard Core. Seriously.

Yep, thats unfortunately how it is these days. Even if Takara makes a transformable masterpiece megs, I wouldnt even bother trying to import it.

That's a bit ill informed, since I have with me *tada* re-issue Megatron. I'm asumming plenty others got him no trouble. Which arguably is a better representation of a P38 in size than would a in scale with MP Convoy, Megs.

 

You can buy air guns and paint ball guns that fall outside of the firearms regulations - yet are dead on realistic. More so than any transforming toy.

yet another good point! :thumb