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Can someone with a G1 Tracks they know is vintage let me know what the trademark stamp looks like? I've got two that I thought were vintage when I bought them, but they show different trademarks. The first one shows "Takara Japan, '80 '84," no mention of Hasbro. The other, which I suspect is a reissue, shows Hasbro in big letters along with Takara. I've compared it to my TRU Reissue Tracks and it's the same, but the seller who sold it to me claimed it was vintage. So now I don't know what the hell is going on. Can there be different trademarks for figures from the same time frame?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

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Can someone with a G1 Tracks they know is vintage let me know what the trademark stamp looks like? I've got two that I thought were vintage when I bought them, but they show different trademarks. The first one shows "Takara Japan, '80 '84," no mention of Hasbro. The other, which I suspect is a reissue, shows Hasbro in big letters along with Takara. I've compared it to my TRU Reissue Tracks and it's the same, but the seller who sold it to me claimed it was vintage. So now I don't know what the hell is going on. Can there be different trademarks for figures from the same time frame?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

If I remember right, tracks was one of those special figures that was accidentally released using the diaclone AND transformers mold, so some just had the takara branding. This happened to thundercracker as well, just it was more apparent because the wings was slightly different from the g1 toy.

 

Although I wouldn't trust a ebay seller any further than I could throw them. So maybe someone here with a vintage will post pics.

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Then if I understand correctly, you're saying they could both be vintage? That would certainly be ok with me! lol Was there any difference with the rub sign as well? One shows a rub sign on the top of the car, the other shows nothing, although it could have just fallen off, I suppose.

 

That's interesting info. I didn't know that about Thundercracker's wings. I looked at Seiberton's galleries hoping to see a vintage G1 Tracks there, but they only had a gallery for a reissue, and it showed the same Hasbro in big letters along with Takara.

 

Thanks for your help, Reluttr!

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Then if I understand correctly, you're saying they could both be vintage? That would certainly be ok with me! lol Was there any difference with the rub sign as well? One shows a rub sign on the top of the car, the other shows nothing, although it could have just fallen off, I suppose.

 

That's interesting info. I didn't know that about Thundercracker's wings. I looked at Seiberton's galleries hoping to see a vintage G1 Tracks there, but they only had a gallery for a reissue, and it showed the same Hasbro in big letters along with Takara.

 

Thanks for your help, Reluttr!

 

Yep! Here is some more info, http://www.tf-1.com/articles/eurous/earlyjets_template.html

 

Apparently this affected mostly all of the pre-rebsign figures :D

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Awesome link. Am I dork if I find stuff like that fascinating? I found a page years go that described all the various Prime and Magnus variants and its still under my favorites. lol

 

I'm pretty sure dude sold me a reissue as a vintage. I noticed there's a different clasp holding the wings on and it matches both my TRU Tracks and the reissue shown on Seibertron. F. Wish I'd noticed that before I left positive feedback. Frankly, it seemed to be in too good condition to be 25 years old.

 

I'm starting to lose the enjoyment of collecting G1 figs. This is like the 3rd time in the last couple months I've had this happen. Worst was a guy who sold me a KO Wheeljack as vintage. He was kind enough to give me my money back though, so it ended well. It's just getting harder to buy with any confidence. Most of the sellers that had established reps as TF dealers on Ebay are gone, and replaced by people who may mean well but don't really know what the hell they're doing or are just cleaning out their basement and putting $300 price tags on incomplete toys that come in sh*t boxes. The amount of nice, quality figs is decreasing while prices for inferior crap are getting ridiculous. I may just concentrate on finding a nice G1 Megs and Shockwave that I've been wanting and just call it good. I've got 3/4 of the '84 - '86 figs, which are what I really want, and have all the biggies.

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I've pretty much given up on G1 figures, because of the expense, but also because of the engineering. I'm happy enough to have the ones I have from childhood, but probably won't get any more except for the occasional reissue. I'm in the process of collecting figures from across the continuity to represent the G1 toys in my collection because in many cases they're more fun to play with anyway.

 

By the way, this is morbid, but what'll probably happen is that when collectors start to die there'll be an influx of original stuff hitting the market every so often again. I've seen this in my dad's hobby of Lionel Trains. They've been around a lot longer of course, so you're probably in for quite a wait for this inevitable change of hands to occur again for G1 TFs.

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