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I'm actually kind of confused concerning Zeta...According to lineage of Primes, as shown in Spotlight: Optimus Prime, Optimus directly followed in the footsteps of Sentinal. He was the next Prime, there was no "filler."

 

It's possible that this could be right at the end of the Golden Age, since it's referred to as such, because that would place Zeta before Nova. However, that would place most of the characters shown in the comics out of place for the given time.

 

 

 

 

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Zeta definitely comes after Sentinel. Megatron and the 'Cons didn't rise up until Sentinel Prime's reign, so Zeta couldn't have come before Nova. True, he wasn't included in the Spotlight: Optimus Prime illustration, but I think that's just as a case of the Prime Spotlight coming out before the writers had fully flushed out IDW's continuity. Simply put, Zeta was retconned.

If you look at it that way, the story works.

 

Plus, in All Hail Megatron #6

Kup, looking over a dying Optimus, says Megatron's killed two Primes, and is now facing his third.

We know Sentinel was the first Prime Megatron killed, so that means there must have been an other Prime after Sentinel but before Optimus. Hence Zeta Prime.

 

There is another possibility altogether. the Zeta "Prime" might not even be a true Prime, and this is quite likely. He's more likely to be just an interim leader (much like Ultra Magnus in the original movie) with delusions of grandeur, but not a True Prime transfigured by the Matrix. Regardless, it is definitely a continuity issue that needs some form of official reconciliation. Also remember that both All Hail Megatron and Spotlight: Blurr are written by the same guy. Zeta really does not fit into the existing Prime lineage, and certainly as Optimus' immediate predecessor. From an internal continuity perspective, Optimus would not have forgotten his immediate predecessor. As an interim leader, he works, though he should not be called "Prime". He may have been passed off as one, or he may have had delusions of grandeur, but he doesn't fit into the actual lineage, and therefore, is not likely to be an actual Prime.

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I'm actually kind of confused concerning Zeta...According to lineage of Primes, as shown in Spotlight: Optimus Prime, Optimus directly followed in the footsteps of Sentinal. He was the next Prime, there was no "filler."

 

It's possible that this could be right at the end of the Golden Age, since it's referred to as such, because that would place Zeta before Nova. However, that would place most of the characters shown in the comics out of place for the given time.

 

 

 

 

CONTIN :argh ITY

Zeta definitely comes after Sentinel. Megatron and the 'Cons didn't rise up until Sentinel Prime's reign, so Zeta couldn't have come before Nova. True, he wasn't included in the Spotlight: Optimus Prime illustration, but I think that's just as a case of the Prime Spotlight coming out before the writers had fully flushed out IDW's continuity. Simply put, Zeta was retconned.

If you look at it that way, the story works.

 

Plus, in All Hail Megatron #6

Kup, looking over a dying Optimus, says Megatron's killed two Primes, and is now facing his third.

We know Sentinel was the first Prime Megatron killed, so that means there must have been an other Prime after Sentinel but before Optimus. Hence Zeta Prime.

 

There is another possibility altogether. the Zeta "Prime" might not even be a true Prime, and this is quite likely. He's more likely to be just an interim leader (much like Ultra Magnus in the original movie) with delusions of grandeur, but not a True Prime transfigured by the Matrix. Regardless, it is definitely a continuity issue that needs some form of official reconciliation. Also remember that both All Hail Megatron and Spotlight: Blurr are written by the same guy. Zeta really does not fit into the existing Prime lineage, and certainly as Optimus' immediate predecessor. From an internal continuity perspective, Optimus would not have forgotten his immediate predecessor. As an interim leader, he works, though he should not be called "Prime". He may have been passed off as one, or he may have had delusions of grandeur, but he doesn't fit into the actual lineage, and therefore, is not likely to be an actual Prime.

 

I agree I don't think he has the matrix since we all know that not long after Sentinel Prime was killed by Megatron the Matrix was given to Optimus. Though this is where this particular piece of history gets interesting. In the original story Alpha Trion rebuilt him and installed the Matrix. However in War Within he was chosen by the Counsel of Elders, and when he was given the matrix he had a Prime growth spurt.

 

Although with all of the other things that IDW have changed this may just be one more thing they've chosen to alter.

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I'm actually kind of confused concerning Zeta...According to lineage of Primes, as shown in Spotlight: Optimus Prime, Optimus directly followed in the footsteps of Sentinal. He was the next Prime, there was no "filler."

 

It's possible that this could be right at the end of the Golden Age, since it's referred to as such, because that would place Zeta before Nova. However, that would place most of the characters shown in the comics out of place for the given time.

 

 

 

 

CONTIN :argh ITY

Zeta definitely comes after Sentinel. Megatron and the 'Cons didn't rise up until Sentinel Prime's reign, so Zeta couldn't have come before Nova. True, he wasn't included in the Spotlight: Optimus Prime illustration, but I think that's just as a case of the Prime Spotlight coming out before the writers had fully flushed out IDW's continuity. Simply put, Zeta was retconned.

If you look at it that way, the story works.

 

Plus, in All Hail Megatron #6

Kup, looking over a dying Optimus, says Megatron's killed two Primes, and is now facing his third.

We know Sentinel was the first Prime Megatron killed, so that means there must have been an other Prime after Sentinel but before Optimus. Hence Zeta Prime.

 

There is another possibility altogether. the Zeta "Prime" might not even be a true Prime, and this is quite likely. He's more likely to be just an interim leader (much like Ultra Magnus in the original movie) with delusions of grandeur, but not a True Prime transfigured by the Matrix. Regardless, it is definitely a continuity issue that needs some form of official reconciliation. Also remember that both All Hail Megatron and Spotlight: Blurr are written by the same guy. Zeta really does not fit into the existing Prime lineage, and certainly as Optimus' immediate predecessor. From an internal continuity perspective, Optimus would not have forgotten his immediate predecessor. As an interim leader, he works, though he should not be called "Prime". He may have been passed off as one, or he may have had delusions of grandeur, but he doesn't fit into the actual lineage, and therefore, is not likely to be an actual Prime.

Honestly, I think that the explanation of "Zeta Prime wasn't in Spotlight: Optimus Prime because IDW's writers hadn't fully flushed out their story yet" is the most likely explanation.

When it came time to reference the time following Sentinel Prime's defeat later on (Spotlight: Blurr, for example) the IDW team decided, for whatever reason, they needed a Prime between Sentinel and Optimus. So they invented one, stuck him between the two, and made him canon.

I don't see it being any more complicated then that.

 

As for Optimus not remembering Zeta Prime in his Spotlight, again, that came before IDW realized (for whatever reason) they needed Zeta. It's not a case of any in-story dynamic. It's a case of the story changing after a piece of it had been produced.

 

And as for "Zeta never held the Matrix," well I point to All Hail Megatron #6.

Kup says, as he's looking over Optimus on his death bed,

He's [Megatron] killed two Primes, now he's starring down his third, and he's finally got it [The Matrix]."

 

That would imply that Zeta was the Matrix bearer when Megatron finally killed him.

 

Although with all of the other things that IDW have changed this may just be one more thing they've chosen to alter.

And this is the case, I think.

Yes, in Marvel and DW Optimus got the Matrix following Sentinel Prime's death.

IDW, however, is a new continuity. In this one, there's a Prime between Sentinel and Optimus.

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