Try being alive in 1980 sometime.

It changes nothing

Before I get torn to bits...

I was being overzealous. I can understand feelings of badassery in ESB, but they fly out the window at RotJ. Which I guess is more reason for some people to hate that movie.

Is it okay if you just thought he looked cool?

Yeah, when I was a kid I was all "That guy looks awesome! I want a Halloween costume like that!" but I never got the "OMG! BOBA FETT IS SOOOOOOO BAD ASS THAT HE KICKS ALL KINDS OF ASS!!!!" attitude other people had about him.

The bounty hunter scene in ESB still gives me a geekgasm, though. 4-LOM!!! (ZUCKUSS!!! now)

Exactly.

Boba Fett wishes he was half as badass as Darth Maul.

Darth Maul got PWNED by "Glass Jaw" Obi Wan Kenobi.

Yeah really, at least Boba Fett survived one movie.

*gets ready to rumble*

I'm just saying...Boba Fett didn't do anything remotely badass. He stands around while Vader and the Stormtroopers do all the work catching Han Solo and freezing him.

The most badass thing he did was wrap up Luke with his grapping hook thing, but that was followed by him getting his gun sliced up, having his jetpack triggered by a blind Han Solo, and dying a slap-sticky death by slamming in the sail barge and dying in a pit...which burped after it ate him.

So Darth Maul's one movie appearance > Boba Fett's four.

I was thinking of "badass" in terms of doing anything effective. Oh and Return of the Jedi doesn't count.

Well now you just aren't playing fair.

And Darth Maul killed Qui-Gon. That counts as badass.

Nope

Sorry

He was supposed to kill both of the Jedi. He failed. Boba Fett tracked down Han Solo when the entire Empire couldn't find him. And he escaped with his frozen body. Mission Accomplish'D

Plus I'm pretty sure that they didn't make a 12" Darth Maul doll with a see-through eye.


RotJ = SW equivalent of G1 season 3 (i.e. "everyone suddenly sucks")

and I mean everyone, even Vader got pwned in RotJ, WTF

Boba Fett figured out the Falcon was hiding on the Star Destroyer, yeah, but he needed Lando Calrissian and Vader to do the grunt work. And the indignity of his death can't be overlooked. At least Darth Maul got offed by friggin' Obi-Wan Kenobi, not accidentally by a fumbling, blind Han Solo.

agree

But I won't doubt that he did a much better job than the Empire at finding Solo in ESB.

He did his job. Maul didn't.


not that I really care about this, you know I actually think that Darth Maul was a wasted character who could have been used a lot more effectively than he was. Boba Fett really shouldn't even have appeared in RotJ. The idea that a bounty hunter would just be hanging around with some dude he did a job for -- a year later -- is pretty ghey.

Agreed.

You know, Boba Fett is pretty badass in the Shadows of the Empire game for the N64. I never got past his ass. So there's that.

What LMH said.

Darth Maul felt especially wasted because he shows up, says a few lines, has two awesome light saber duels, and then falls down the Bottomless Pit of Doom.

Agree n' sh*t

funny how they both ended up falling into a pit, lol

Maul should've lived and been doing Christopher Lee's job for the sequels, only to have his hands get cut off by Anakin...which would've helped up Anakin's body count from a bunch of kids and an old man to a bunch of kids and a badass alien Sith Lord.

Which still isn't great...

What should have happened is that Lucas should have thought up Count Dooku (minus the name) for TPM so there could be some kind of setup for him in Ep II. Least explained or fleshed-out character EVARRR.

Honestly I don't see how Maul served any story purpose at all, in the grand scheme. But I guess they needed a dude in a black outfit with a red lightsaber cuz it's Star Wars.

Isn't that what I said?

BTW, the Powers That Be deemed my former avatar, the bikini-clad Gallagher sans bikini top, as being too close to porn. Whaddaya know.

Pretty interesting article. As it happens, I just got the "Making of Star Wars" book from Amazon, so started reading that last night. The chapters I read last night dealt with the first couple of drafts - it was interesting to note that quite a few of the characters/ideas/concepts he had back then ended up in the prequels.

The book also talks a bit about Lucas' film school days, from the things he liked and the described style of some of his student films, it sounds like the nu-BSG should be one of his favorite shows.


The copyright is good for fifty years after his death, but I'm guessing that Lucasfilm probably won't wait that long. The sad thing is I won't live long enough to ever see some of the re-interpretations that will arise once Star Wars is in the public domain.

I meant that Dooku's appearance in Ep II comes off as total retcon. Dude was supposed to have been on the Jedi Council, left the Jedi Order in disgust after they did nothing about Qui-Gon's death, yada yada yada. But without him appearing in TPM at all... well it's just lame when he tells Obi-Wan "it's a pity our paths never crossed before now" as if Obi-Wan would never have been in the same room with a guy who was on the friggin Jedi Council.

Not that they didn't completely and 100% pooch the plot of AotC anyway. "OMG Sifo Dyas ordered a clone army!" "Who?" "Oh never mind."

x 1000

It wouldn't be a public domain issue. The issue would be whoever ends up with his company when he croaks wanting to make more money by making more movies, something which Lucas doesn't seem keen on doing, disregarding this TV-pilot-as-feature-film afterthought that spawned the conversation. The commodity that is Star Wars is way too valuable for someone NOT to capitalize on it when they have control of it.

EDIT: And hey, a fresh take on the series from a newcommer wouldn't be a bad thing for all parties, IMO.

That's more what I was getting at with "public domain" - I think that Lucasfilm, in an effort to "stay true to George's vision" will churn out more crap like this new Clone Wars.

I tried to do my own little fan-edit of that film once and just gave up. If you take out all the sh*t that doesn't make any sense, you're left with a bunch of Anakin/Padme scenes.

Yeesh, fan edits. Has that meme died yet?

Hey, I did it for RotS <_<

*is not surprised*

Phantom Edit FTW!

dont get me started on how the prequels are natalie portman's worst acting ever (although she was hot in AotC) apparently green screens arent her forte

hayden... i would say the same thing but he was totally tolerable in jumper and that had to be full of green screens (i didnt know it was him initially)

I actually think she did well in RotS... unfortunately her relationship with Anakin to that point had been laughable, so when it came time to pour on the emotion, it had no context.

may december romances are far more palatable if you dont start when the kid is a KID...


my wife and I have a 6 year age difference, if you go back to 1987 when she graduated from high school it seems creepy cause I was twelve


it gets even creepier when you consider her brother is my age and she helped change his diapers

Hey do you see him hitting on the queen / though he's just nine and she's fourteen

YES! Darth Maul is the ONLY concept to come out of TPM with any redeeming value, IMO. I still think the double-bladed lightsabre is the coolest thing ever.


You mean those scenes make sense? That relationship plays like a badly thought out high school drama. Even in RotS when it gets really emotional. It all seemed like Anakin had knocked up Padme in the back of his car spaceship and they were worried that dad Yoda was going to find out.

the use of multiple light sabers is all i try to take away from the prequals



asajj ventress for the win

What do you mean "seemed"? That WAS the plot! Remember the whole poster campaign of "A Jedi has not hate, greed or.... DUN DUN DUN - LOVE"

That teaser poster got me excited... it seemed to me like the obvious through-line in the prequels was going to be "Anakin started training too late, so he developed attachments to people that ended up being his downfall." That's a simple enough story. But it wasn't developed properly, and it also got buried in an avalanche of trade federations and clone armies and Jedi plots.

P.S. speaking of lightsabers, I actually liked Palpatine's one-handed lightsaber the best... when your blade has no mass, it makes sense not to have a huge handle.

P.P.S. I'm sure there's an innuendo or three in there somewhere.

*prefers Dooku's handle for its unorthodoxness*

Innuendo?

I would have preferred to see Dooku actually be 1337 with it and stuff

Well, turns out it is hard to use a lightsaber as a cane.

ZOOWM *thud*

Now I just remembered that I also hate Lucas because he excused the lackluster ANH duel as "it's a robot vs. an old man, they both suck" and then 20-years-older-than-Alec-Guinness Christopher Lee comes along all ninja-style and stuff.

But Doku was a sithlord in his prime (we dont know how old the character was)
and Kanobi had been eating sand muffins for 30 years.

Not that I'm in a rush to defend lucas or anything... but complaining about the Prequel's having decent choreography is lame.

Hey, you go 20 years between lightsaber duels and see how rusty YOU are.

*ignores the fact that a Jedi feels The Force flowing through him*
*Also ignores midicholorians. ForEVER*

HUNTER ROSE'D!
AGAIN!!!!

I just realized that when you take the excuse Lucas gave for the ANH duel, the Yoda/DraculaDooku duel from AotC reeks of lameness.