Blitz-Wing
Aug 14 2008, 12:07 PM
Wired.com blogged today about the 10 worst films for geeks. The list is based off of titles that had great actors and a lot of anticipation but ended up disappointing at the screen.
Take a look at the list here
DarkNarcoleptic
Aug 14 2008, 12:14 PM

to Sky Captain and Willy Wonka.
And I know I'll always be in the minority on liking League...
Haggisjin
Aug 14 2008, 12:26 PM
I'm fairly certain that The Phantom Menace deserves top billing there.
Prime-Collector
Aug 14 2008, 12:32 PM
Hitchhikers Guide?
DarkNarcoleptic
Aug 14 2008, 12:36 PM
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Aug 14 2008, 03:26 PM)

I'm fairly certain that The Phantom Menace all of the prequels deserve top billing there.
Absolutely.
Bestimus Mucho
Aug 14 2008, 12:39 PM
Shouldn't Hackers be on here?
DarkNarcoleptic
Aug 14 2008, 12:40 PM

I've never heard of that movie.
Prime-Collector
Aug 14 2008, 12:49 PM
How about Daredevil, Hulk, Star Wars ep. 1 and 2 (at least)

, Punisher, Star Trek: Generations, Catwoman, Starship Troopers, Wild Wild West, MiB 2.
For that matter Street Fighter, Masters of the Universe (awesome

not withstanding), Super Mario Bros...
The list goes on.
JustLOKIPLVY
Aug 14 2008, 12:51 PM
No mention of Battlefield Earth?
Truly this is proof it has been completely wiped from the minds of many.
Guess that's a good thing.
Also throws in vote for all thre Star Wars prequals.
Hackers was just dumb fun. Nothing big or notworthy nut not entirely bad niether.
JMO.
Hobbes-timus Prime
Aug 14 2008, 12:52 PM
I call BS on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I love the Gene Wilder flick, but Burton's is a tremendously better adaptation of Dahl's book, which was the whole point of making it. They weren't remaking "Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory", they were finally making "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory".
ReverendNash
Aug 14 2008, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 01:52 PM)

I call BS on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I love the Gene Wilder flick, but Burton's is a tremendously better adaptation of Dahl's book, which was the whole point of making it. They weren't remaking "Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory", they were finally making "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory".

QFT
Bestimus Mucho
Aug 14 2008, 12:55 PM
QUOTE (Prime-Collector @ Aug 14 2008, 04:49 PM)

How about Daredevil, Hulk, Star Wars ep. 1 and 2 (at least)

, Punisher, Star Trek: Generations, Catwoman,
Starship Troopers, Wild Wild West, MiB 2.
For that matter Street Fighter, Masters of the Universe (awesome

not withstanding), Super Mario Bros...
The list goes on.
Ahem... but I think you slipped one in there by accident that didn't belong there.
trench
Aug 14 2008, 01:04 PM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 01:52 PM)

I call BS on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I love the Gene Wilder flick, but Burton's is a tremendously better adaptation of Dahl's book, which was the whole point of making it. They weren't remaking "Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory", they were finally making "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory".
For the most part I concur, but I didn't like the whole par...par...parents angle of C&TCF; I would have preferred if it kept the book/WW&TCF ending.
Blitz-Wing
Aug 14 2008, 01:09 PM
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Aug 14 2008, 01:14 PM)


to Sky Captain and Willy Wonka.
And I know I'll always be in the minority on liking League...

No, LXG was actually a decent film. Probably only because I never read the book it was based off of. Sky Captain is another one that kinda threw me. It was full of retro 40s goodness to me, didn't think it stunk THAT bad. I think Choco Factory got on there because of those detestable Oompa Loompas. Kill them with fire.
Although I admit I always liked Gene Wilder's take on it.
DarkNarcoleptic
Aug 14 2008, 01:13 PM
Sky Captain just slowed down a lot in the middle. But it doesn't get to me.

And I think pretty much everyone is in agreement on C&TCF.
Bestimus Mucho
Aug 14 2008, 01:14 PM
now I've read LXG, and I'm pretty sure that that movie didn't have much to do with the story asside from some of the characters being in it.
trench
Aug 14 2008, 01:19 PM
I should probably come clean about being a Matrix sequels apologist.
DarkNarcoleptic
Aug 14 2008, 01:22 PM
I don't have a huge problem with them...
Firebrandx
Aug 14 2008, 01:24 PM
I sort of liked Matrix 2, but part 3 was pure and utter garbage.
ReverendNash
Aug 14 2008, 01:33 PM
Never read Moores League, but I did enjoy the movie. Had I read it prior, things may have been different, but I still have yet to read it, and therefore still enjoy the movie.
Jerrod
Aug 14 2008, 01:40 PM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 03:52 PM)

I call BS on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I love the Gene Wilder flick, but Burton's is a tremendously better adaptation of Dahl's book, which was the whole point of making it. They weren't remaking "Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory", they were finally making "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory".
I'm sorry, you are wrong. That movie is the epitome of unnecessary, and when you compare the derivations it makes from the book to the differences
Willy Wonka has with the source material, you essentially have a wash.
That movie wasted its gift, just like Dean Martin. And the daddy issues? Puh-leeze.
Hobbes-timus Prime
Aug 14 2008, 01:43 PM
QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 01:40 PM)

And the daddy issues?
*loved the Daddy sub-plot*
Jerrod
Aug 14 2008, 01:47 PM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 04:43 PM)

QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 01:40 PM)

And the daddy issues?
*loved the Daddy sub-plot*

That was awful, especially how it interrupted the natural ending. It was like it was done as a favor to Christopher Lee.
And Depp's take on the character was...how shall I say...really bad.
Hobbes-timus Prime
Aug 14 2008, 01:49 PM
QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 01:47 PM)

QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 04:43 PM)

QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 01:40 PM)

And the daddy issues?
*loved the Daddy sub-plot*

That was awful, especially how it interrupted the natural ending. It was like it was done as a favor to Christopher Lee.
And Depp's take on the character was...how shall I say...really bad.
"I'm sorry, I was having a flashback." <- Genius.
You're just grumpy.
trench
Aug 14 2008, 01:49 PM
QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 02:47 PM)

And Depp's take on the character was...how shall I say...really bad.
Heh, that was my favorite part.
Jerrod
Aug 14 2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 04:49 PM)

QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 01:47 PM)

QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 04:43 PM)

QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 01:40 PM)

And the daddy issues?
*loved the Daddy sub-plot*

That was awful, especially how it interrupted the natural ending. It was like it was done as a favor to Christopher Lee.
And Depp's take on the character was...how shall I say...really bad.
"I'm sorry, I was having a flashback." <- Genius.
You're just grumpy.
Well, maybe. But I had hoped for much better from that movie.
Prime-Collector
Aug 14 2008, 01:50 PM
Is it possible to have too much Deep Roy?
Yes, yes it is.
Stormtrooper53
Aug 14 2008, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Aug 14 2008, 03:55 PM)

QUOTE (Prime-Collector @ Aug 14 2008, 04:49 PM)

How about Daredevil, Hulk, Star Wars ep. 1 and 2 (at least)

, Punisher, Star Trek: Generations, Catwoman,
Starship Troopers, Wild Wild West, MiB 2.
For that matter Street Fighter, Masters of the Universe (awesome

not withstanding), Super Mario Bros...
The list goes on.
Ahem... but I think you slipped one in there by accident that didn't belong there.
No, he pretty much nailed it with that one.
eneyekay
Aug 14 2008, 02:58 PM
How is AVP not on that list?! The butchering of 2 great franchises in the space of 90 minutes.
I liked C&TCF, The Matrix trilogy and a few more films on there... not been arsed to watch Mummy 3 though since the first 2 were awful imo.
Starscreamer
Aug 14 2008, 05:29 PM
remember guys...the article was about movies that had ALL the right pieces that should have been a geek masterpiece. Phantom Menace should have been on the list...but Daredevil? mid card director plus ok actor...no real "geekness" to it. League had some great source matrial, good cast but was still...meh. Now if Iron Man had bombed, that would be on the list...but there we had all the proper pieces and yes they fell into place
AVP? yeah should have been good, but with the director of Mortal Kombat at the helm?
Street Fighter with Van Dame? Can see where that train wreck is going a mile away...The list had some good points...now I would have also put the first Hulk in there (great director, awesome cast...but the script? huh?). Stuff I would have lined up to see and then leaving the movies screaming dude I want my 9 bucks back...
Lord Madhammer
Aug 14 2008, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (Starscreamer @ Aug 14 2008, 08:29 PM)

remember guys...the article was about movies that had ALL the right pieces that should have been a geek masterpiece.
And I definitely agree that by that criterion, The Phantom Menace should have been #1 on the list. And definitely Matrix: Reloaded. *Not* Attack of the Clones / Matrix: Revolutions, because by that point the bar had been dropped back down. EVERYONE was hoping/expecting that TPM and Reloaded would kick unholy ass.
I would probably also put Ang Lee's Hulk somewhere on the list, as well as Spider-Man 3.
Oh and if you want to go old-school, I would also put Star Trek: The Motion Picture and Return of the Jedi on the list.
Jerrod
Aug 14 2008, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 14 2008, 09:10 PM)

QUOTE (Starscreamer @ Aug 14 2008, 08:29 PM)

remember guys...the article was about movies that had ALL the right pieces that should have been a geek masterpiece.
And I definitely agree that by that criterion, The Phantom Menace should have been #1 on the list. And definitely Matrix: Reloaded. *Not* Attack of the Clones / Matrix: Revolutions, because by that point the bar had been dropped back down. EVERYONE was hoping/expecting that TPM and Reloaded would kick unholy ass.
I would probably also put Ang Lee's Hulk somewhere on the list, as well as Spider-Man 3.
Oh and if you want to go old-school, I would also put Star Trek: The Motion Picture and Return of the Jedi on the list.
Ooh...ST:TMP for sure needs to be on that list.
Mom
Aug 14 2008, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Aug 14 2008, 04:55 PM)

QUOTE (Prime-Collector @ Aug 14 2008, 04:49 PM)

How about Daredevil, Hulk, Star Wars ep. 1 and 2 (at least)

, Punisher, Star Trek: Generations, Catwoman,
Starship Troopers 2 & 3, Wild Wild West, MiB 2.
For that matter Street Fighter, Masters of the Universe (awesome

not withstanding), Super Mario Bros...
The list goes on.
Ahem... but I think you slipped one in there by accident that didn't belong there.
FiXD. Because the first Starship Troopers was awesome.
Bestimus Mucho
Aug 15 2008, 05:39 AM
I liked SST 3
Wildling
Aug 16 2008, 11:09 AM
QUOTE (Hellscream333 @ Aug 14 2008, 09:42 PM)

QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Aug 14 2008, 04:55 PM)

QUOTE (Prime-Collector @ Aug 14 2008, 04:49 PM)

How about Daredevil, Hulk, Star Wars ep. 1 and 2 (at least)

, Punisher, Star Trek: Generations, Catwoman,
Starship Troopers 2 & 3, Wild Wild West, MiB 2.
For that matter Street Fighter, Masters of the Universe (awesome

not withstanding), Super Mario Bros...
The list goes on.
Ahem... but I think you slipped one in there by accident that didn't belong there.
FiXD. Because the first Starship Troopers was awesome.
I don't know if I would say awesome so much as ... completely stupid. I wonder if there is a person alive who couldn't figure out the themes the director was
subtly introducing bludgeoning the viewer with.
By the way, Dune (Sting version) deserves at least fourth spot on that list. If only for it's slavish devotion to the book even when the book was long-winded and actionless.
Lord Madhammer
Aug 16 2008, 01:05 PM
Was there a huge fan-expectation surrounding Starship Troopers?

I liked it okay, mostly because of the boobies and Nazi Doogie Howser.
Talkie Toaster
Aug 16 2008, 01:53 PM
the hitchhikers film was disgraceful when compared to every other medium. I think the main problem with it was Mos Deff's portrayal of Ford Prefect (lacked the energy and gravitas the role needed) and Martin Freeman's approach to Arthur Dent, he tried to portray Arthur differently to how Simon Jones did it, and seeing how the role of Dent was specifically written for him it was wasted potential.
I thought the lass who played Trillian was good, she was good looking IMO and could act, a rare combination. Still would have been better if Steven Moore had voiced Marvin though, to me the voice he did is Marvin.
(SST3 is intentionally funny btw)
Mom
Aug 16 2008, 02:57 PM
This fuqin thread has nerd fight written aaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllll over it
Blitz-Wing
Aug 16 2008, 03:08 PM
I think an honorable mention should go to Mad Max: Thunderdome. What happens when you give a good Austrailian property to a bunch of loser Americans like WB
Haggisjin
Aug 16 2008, 04:05 PM

To go from Road Warrior to Thunderdome makes me
trench
Aug 18 2008, 09:20 AM
Although I agree in principal with the The Road Warrior -> Thunderdome let down, I can see why they went that route instead of just making "Road Warrior 2," which probably would have been so derivative it would have also sucked.
Lord Madhammer
Aug 18 2008, 09:21 AM
I didn't think the second movie was all that great... aside from the cheese factor
trench
Aug 18 2008, 09:22 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 18 2008, 10:21 AM)

I didn't think the second movie was all that great... aside from the cheese factor
You are dead to me for five minutes.
SMITHSQUARED
Aug 18 2008, 09:27 AM
QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 14 2008, 05:40 PM)

QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Aug 14 2008, 03:52 PM)

I call BS on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I love the Gene Wilder flick, but Burton's is a tremendously better adaptation of Dahl's book, which was the whole point of making it. They weren't remaking "Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory", they were finally making "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory".
I'm sorry, you are wrong. That movie is the epitome of unnecessary, and when you compare the derivations it makes from the book to the differences
Willy Wonka has with the source material, you essentially have a wash.
That movie wasted its gift,
just like Dean Martin. And the daddy issues? Puh-leeze.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
Lord Madhammer
Aug 18 2008, 09:39 AM

that was pretty out-of-nowhere
Blitz-Wing
Aug 18 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (trench @ Aug 18 2008, 10:20 AM)

Although I agree in principal with the The Road Warrior -> Thunderdome let down, I can see why they went that route instead of just making "Road Warrior 2," which probably would have been so derivative it would have also sucked.
You do know that The Road Warrior is in itself a sequel right?
Mad Max > Road Warrior > Mad Max: Thunderdome
And FWIW, the original Mad Max was cheesier than Road Warrior
Stormtrooper53
Aug 18 2008, 10:52 AM
I loved Mad Max.
Except for the dub.
Lord Madhammer
Aug 18 2008, 10:53 AM
QUOTE (Cadogen @ Aug 18 2008, 01:52 PM)

QUOTE (trench @ Aug 18 2008, 10:20 AM)

Although I agree in principal with the The Road Warrior -> Thunderdome let down, I can see why they went that route instead of just making "Road Warrior 2," which probably would have been so derivative it would have also sucked.
You do know that The Road Warrior is in itself a sequel right?
Mad Max > Road Warrior > Mad Max: Thunderdome
And FWIW, the original Mad Max was cheesier than Road Warrior
Low-budget cheese vs. camp cheese... you take your pick
Cool Hand Lube
Aug 18 2008, 11:01 AM
*shaves head except for long top-knot-style pony-tail and tapes a doll's head to my back on a stick. rides motorcycle*
trench
Aug 18 2008, 11:27 AM
QUOTE (Cadogen @ Aug 18 2008, 11:52 AM)

QUOTE (trench @ Aug 18 2008, 10:20 AM)

Although I agree in principal with the The Road Warrior -> Thunderdome let down, I can see why they went that route instead of just making "Road Warrior 2," which probably would have been so derivative it would have also sucked.
You do know that The Road Warrior is in itself a sequel right?
Yes, but
Mad Max sucks - and let's not kid ourselves,
Thunderdome was only made because
Road Warrior was a success. (I think one could also argue that in the vein of keeping in the spirt of the earlier film,
Thunderdome feels much more like a
Road Warrior sequel than
Road Warrior feels like a
Mad Max sequel.)
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