ok I'm trying to find pictures of the first real evil prime. its from an japanese Manga and was made by the quints from Prime and megatron parts to kill Galvatron and Rodimus but is defeated and seemed to contrain the ghost of starscream

I think it begins with M but the name escapes me and I need to find I good pic of the guys revolver arm for something I'm drawing

You mean Guiltar

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Guiltor-Gun.jpg

Here's the Wiki page it has some new and maybe older pics(glasses are in the other room so I can't realy tell0

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Guiltar

jin did an animated version of this guy actually

http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotome/J...ys/Guiltar.html

Holy crap that is cool.

thanks thats the guy I can never seem to recall his name

I'd buy it if they made it.

Jin's custom looks pretty clean cut, I just wonder if it would work with the 2 pack figures?

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Nope, can't do it.

I prefer the name "Guiltall" for him 'cause it reminds me of Weltall from Xenogears.

wait wouldn the first evil prime be nova-nemesis prime? since he was first than optimus meaning that guiltar wouldnt have been the first?

Hey Blitz, I was able to DL the actual translated manga online (Seibertron archive, I believe).
Lmk if you cant find a copy & I'll dig up the link (or scan)

I mean first as in the first evil prime featured in official TF stories not the chronologically first nemesis prime and even then since its 1 nemesis prime per continuity you cant say that one came before another unless your talking about first appearance