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Lord Madhammer
Almost 4 minutes of Jimmy Neutron-level CGI IMO....

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809991325/video/8977211
G.A.S.H.
I gave up. It was boring, no excitement and no peril. That's the problem with prequels, unless they add something well thought out or interesting, something that fans won't hate, they will sarcasticpelicanlb2.gif...

It just solidifies my opinion that more Clone Wars stuff is unnecessary, but then I think that they should have done Episodes 7-9 instead of 1-3... 1-3 didn't add anything, as pretty much everyone agrees, and were really just great big farg yous to all the long-term fans :/

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Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (G.A.S.H. @ Jul 28 2008, 06:14 PM) *
I gave up. It was boring, no excitement and no peril.

"Can't I have just a little bit of peril?"

"No, it's too perilous."
Cool Hand Lube
Why do all the human's faces look like dried out fruit?

AND WHY THE FRAK ARE THEY DOING THE FRAKING CLONE WARS? AGAIN?!?!?!

Sorry.
Haggisjin
*enjoyed the cartoon*
I.S.T.
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Jul 29 2008, 02:25 AM) *
*enjoyed the cartoon*


I don't think you can find a self-respecting Star Wars fan who didn't.

Or, really, who even exists.

>.>

*Serious mode*

Clone Wars was complete awesomeness, if only for one reason: it showed what the Force could really do. The movie simply make it out to be screwing with peoples' heads, levitation, choking people and lightning. That's about it. I'm probably forgetting an example here and there...
Haggisjin
General Greivous was such a huge let down in movie form. He goes from awesome-jedi-killing-cyborg-of-doom to wheezey-guy-that-can't-even-handle-obi-wan

I say that as though the rest of the movie was any good......







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G.A.S.H.
QUOTE (Cool Hand Lube @ Jul 28 2008, 09:48 PM) *
AND WHY THE FRAK ARE THEY DOING THE FRAKING CLONE WARS? AGAIN?!?!?!

I didn't want to mention that myself... well, the bit about them doing it again, but yeah... WHY????

The cartoon was awesomeji1.gif


I'm not gonna watch CGI Clone Wars at all. Not got the channel, and that clip was worse than Episode 1...
Haggisjin
QUOTE (G.A.S.H. @ Jul 29 2008, 03:09 AM) *
that clip was worse than Episode 1...


Oh come now, that was just mean.
Lord Madhammer
I had just happened to re-watch the first DVD of Clone Wars the other night, too. Comparing that to this is like.... wow. CN's Clone Wars cartoon was so full of awesome and great visual storytelling. This, unfortunately (depending on your POV) seems to be a lot less CN and a lot more Nickelodeon. (And not the good Nickelodeon either.)

For those interested, this is supposed to take place between parts 1 and 2 of CN's Clone Wars cartoon. Which is another way of saying "there really wasn't a story to tell, but what the hell."

My angst stems partially from the fact that I'm going to have to sit through this in the movie theater with my kids.
The Diesel
QUOTE (Cool Hand Lube @ Jul 28 2008, 11:48 PM) *
Why do all the human's faces look like dried out fruit?

AND WHY THE FRAK ARE THEY DOING THE FRAKING CLONE WARS? AGAIN?!?!?!

Sorry.

Yeah. I have been burnt out on this for years now.
G.A.S.H.
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Jul 29 2008, 04:45 AM) *
QUOTE (G.A.S.H. @ Jul 29 2008, 03:09 AM) *
that clip was worse than Episode 1...


Oh come now, that was just mean.

It's true though:
Episode 1 had lightsaber fights that actually moved, blasts that impacted and podracing. The clip was slow, people not moving (a problem with full CGI things like this it seems still nowadays) and there's no plot to it. It's the Clone Wars, there were fights, that's about it. Episode 1 at least had some vague form of a plot moving somewhere, or something...
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 04:45 AM) *
I had just happened to re-watch the first DVD of Clone Wars the other night, too. Comparing that to this is like.... wow. CN's Clone Wars cartoon was so full of awesome and great visual storytelling. This, unfortunately (depending on your POV) seems to be a lot less CN and a lot more Nickelodeon. (And not the good Nickelodeon either.)

Well, it's too slow, and CW cartoon actually looked good as well, stylized in a good way (wasn't it done by the guy who did Samurai Jack?)
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For those interested, this is supposed to take place between parts 1 and 2 of CN's Clone Wars cartoon. Which is another way of saying "there really wasn't a story to tell, but what the hell."

Which is one of my problems with it. Apart from it being shot...
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My angst stems partially from the fact that I'm going to have to sit through this in the movie theater with my kids.

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Stormtrooper53
I never got in to the Clone Wars cartoon. I don't like to watch my story in 3-minute bits. Never picked up the DVDs and did not watch the second season. (I should also state that I'm not a fan of Tartakovsky's animation style and this may be a factor.)

I do wonder why, however, if we've already fleshed out Anakin's and Obi Wan's story during the Clone Wars, there's a need to go back and tell MORE of the story.

Ah, my son is looking forward to going and seeing it, so I sort of am, too.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 08:02 AM) *
I never got in to the Clone Wars cartoon. I don't like to watch my story in 3-minute bits. Never picked up the DVDs and did not watch the second season. (I should also state that I'm not a fan of Tartakovsky's animation style and this may be a factor.)

I do wonder why, however, if we've already fleshed out Anakin's and Obi Wan's story during the Clone Wars, there's a need to go back and tell MORE of the story.

Ah, my son is looking forward to going and seeing it, so I sort of am, too.

Watching it on DVD is a different experience:

For one thing, the first season is cut together so you're not just watching a bunch of different segments. It feels like a single, cohesive narrative.

Also, the second season wasn't cut into small pieces to begin with, and it's easily my favorite part of the Anakin Skywalker story.

I would highly recommend picking them up; they're cheap and you don't have to do this every five minutes --> skeletor.png
SkyClonus
Reminded me of Beast Wars.
The Diesel
QUOTE (SkyClonus @ Jul 29 2008, 08:42 AM) *
Reminded me of Beast Wars.

Yeah, but I'm with Madhammer in the "It looks like Jimmy Neutron" thing as well.
G.A.S.H.
QUOTE (SkyClonus @ Jul 29 2008, 06:42 AM) *
Reminded me of Beast Wars.

but shot...
( . Y . )
I gave up after hearing a Wilhelm.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 29 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I gave up after hearing a Wilhelm.

You must not see a lot of movies.
Asthaloth
So why are they telling a story already told (Wow, I wonder if Anakin will best Dooku and kill hi... Oh sorry, never farging mind!) and not filling in the TWENTY BLASTED YEARS BETWEEN 3 AND 4?!
( . Y . )
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 10:33 AM) *
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 29 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I gave up after hearing a Wilhelm.

You must not see a lot of movies.

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Well I pay to see those...
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 10:33 AM) *
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 29 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I gave up after hearing a Wilhelm.

You must not see a lot of movies.

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QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jul 29 2008, 10:40 AM) *
So why are they telling a story already told (Wow, I wonder if Anakin will best Dooku and kill hi... Oh sorry, never farging mind!) and not filling in the TWENTY BLASTED YEARS BETWEEN 3 AND 4?!

Well, an integral part of that story would be one Darth Vader. And I don't see them getting James Earl Jones to work for a film PLUS a TV series.
( . Y . )
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Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 29 2008, 11:00 AM) *
Chad Vader awesomeji1.gif

*googles*

*shudders*

STOP DOING THAT!!!
Asthaloth
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 10:33 AM) *
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 29 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I gave up after hearing a Wilhelm.

You must not see a lot of movies.

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QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jul 29 2008, 10:40 AM) *
So why are they telling a story already told (Wow, I wonder if Anakin will best Dooku and kill hi... Oh sorry, never farging mind!) and not filling in the TWENTY BLASTED YEARS BETWEEN 3 AND 4?!

Well, an integral part of that story would be one Darth Vader. And I don't see them getting James Earl Jones to work for a film PLUS a TV series.


Or they could do Han solo, or Boba Fett, or any billion other characters.
Lord Madhammer
There are plans for a live-action TV series that will occur between eps. 3 and 4. However, it will NOT be a "Skywalker" story and will only tangentially involve the major players in the SW universe.

Which could be cool in the right hands, but I don't have much in the way of details about it.

Not that I really see much of a story in the space between RotS and ANH anyway... I mean, the dude's in the black suit now, what do you want.
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jul 29 2008, 11:12 AM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 10:33 AM) *
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 29 2008, 10:32 AM) *
I gave up after hearing a Wilhelm.

You must not see a lot of movies.

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QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jul 29 2008, 10:40 AM) *
So why are they telling a story already told (Wow, I wonder if Anakin will best Dooku and kill hi... Oh sorry, never farging mind!) and not filling in the TWENTY BLASTED YEARS BETWEEN 3 AND 4?!

Well, an integral part of that story would be one Darth Vader. And I don't see them getting James Earl Jones to work for a film PLUS a TV series.


Or they could do Han solo, or Boba Fett, or any billion other characters.

I doubt very seriously that anyone but the most ardent Star Wars fans would want to watch an entire movie and TV series detaliing the adventures of Momaw Nadon or the Tonika Sisters, or even Boba Fett for that matter. It would have to be a central character to hold any sort of mass appeal. That in mind:

I don't see them getting __________ to work for a film PLUS a TV series.

A) Harrison Ford
B) Carrie Fisher
C) Peter Cushing (d'oh!)

Maybe Mark Hamill, but I don't think Luke's pre-ANH story would be interesting enough to fill out a 30 minute episode, let alone the amount of material the new Clone Wars saga will encompass.

Uncle Owen: Luke, go fix those moister vaporators.
Luke: But I was going to the Tosche station to buy some blue milk!!!!
Uncle Owen: Why do we have to have this conversation every time?
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 11:28 AM) *
Not that I really see much of a story in the space between RotS and ANH anyway... I mean, the dude's in the black suit now, what do you want.

^ this

And if you want to learn more of Darth Vader's story between RotS and ANH, they gotcha covered.

Asthaloth
Well no, make it animated, a series of shortish stories.
Interconnected if you damn well must (This is Lucas, seems nothing can happen without one of like five people being involved.)
Yeah, lukes life will be a bit cack, but why not the rise of the rebellion?
They gacked a prototype Death Star right?
How?

How did the bothans get the schematics for number 2?
What moron built a maintenance shaft the size of a frikkin freighter in it?


Any number of things could be done.
Stormtrooper53
gacked? cacked?

You and your Derbysher-isms. optimuslaugh2.gif

I am not a fan of Lucas connecting EVERYTHING to R2-D2 and C-3PO. Threepio being built by Darth Vader was a massive PHAIL as far as I'm concerned.
Lord Madhammer
Indeed. And ya know, not every single month, day and year in the Star Wars saga has to be mapped out.

BACKSTORY =/= AN ACTUAL STORY
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 03:11 PM) *
Indeed. And ya know, not every single month, day and year in the Star Wars saga has to be mapped out.

BACKSTORY =/= AN ACTUAL STORY

And while we're at it. You remember that one favorite character that said that one phrase that one time that everyone loves to quote? ("I find your lack of faith disturbing." "It's not my fault!" etc.) Yeah, having that character say that in every single book, video game, comic, movie, television show, and Doritos commercial =/= characterization.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 03:20 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 03:11 PM) *
Indeed. And ya know, not every single month, day and year in the Star Wars saga has to be mapped out.

BACKSTORY =/= AN ACTUAL STORY

And while we're at it. You remember that one favorite character that said that one phrase that one time that everyone loves to quote? ("I find your lack of faith disturbing." "It's not my fault!" etc.) Yeah, having that character say that in every single book, video game, comic, movie, television show, and Doritos commercial =/= characterization.

I know, that whole amusing self-referential thing got old after like two minutes.

Which was how much of Phantom Menace had elapsed before Obi-Wan said "I have a bad feeling about this."

the irony of that statement notwithstanding
Stormtrooper53
optimuslaugh2.gif. "I have a bad feeling about this" is the one thing I don't mind if they slip in every once in a while because EVERY character said it at least once during the original trilogy (Luke, Ben, Han, Leia, Lando, Threepio, I'm sure even Chewie and Artoo said it in their own special way.) I look at it as SWs "signature move."

Kinda like Scorpion's "GET OVER HERE!" harpoon. Or Indy reaching back to grab his hat or whip at the last second.

*probably the only person in the world that is not ashamed to admit he liked the Pre-ilogy.*

*Except Jar-Jar*
Lord Madhammer
Oh, I tried... but even Revenge of the Sith, which has about 10-15 minutes of awesomeness, is mostly flat and failish and rid-sideburn_snooze.gif and skeletor.png and all that stuff... not just acting / directing, but conceptually, design-wise, the script, etc....

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G.A.S.H.
Well, what did they really add?
Boba's a clone. Balls...
Jar Jar? :shit
etc etc

Is probably the main reason. Didn't add anything to the story that 4-6 had already told. Which is sarcasticpelicanlb2.gif
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (G.A.S.H. @ Jul 29 2008, 04:01 PM) *
Well, what did they really add?
Boba's a clone. Balls...
Jar Jar? :shit
etc etc

Is probably the main reason. Didn't add anything to the story that 4-6 had already told. Which is sarcasticpelicanlb2.gif

Again, backstory =/= story

Not that they could even get that right. We've known the back story since 1978 and then you see RotS and it's like nope, that's not how it happened.
Hunter Rose
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here we go again.....
Sangron
I for one can't wait for it. grimlocklaugh.gif
Stormtrooper53
The story it told was how Anakin went from "annoying little kid" to "annoying emo teenager" to "annoying Jedi Knight" to Darth Vader. Shrug.gif

Not that "He missed his mommy" was the best way to go about it.
Jerrod
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 03:32 PM) *
*probably the only person in the world that is not ashamed to admit he liked the Pre-ilogy.*

*Except Jar-Jar*

I liked the prequels too. I find them fun. They never stood a chance, though, what with them being rather shaky on plot and plodding in execution from time to time...and then pair that with every nerd in the world putting on their brand new Criticism Hats for the first time to coincide with their release. The result is a horribly divisive set of movies. Hooray!

*didn't mind Jar Jar. Really hated the whole head-replacing-schtick with C3P0 and the battle droids, along with the Fett backstory*
Hunter Rose
I think the trilogy needed more shimi tusken pr0n.
comeon - you saw her "prison" why else was she left alive?
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:07 PM) *
The story it told was how Anakin went from "annoying little kid" to "annoying emo teenager" to "annoying Jedi Knight" to Darth Vader. Shrug.gif

Not that "He missed his mommy" was the best way to go about it.

I could quote a bunch of lines from the original trilogy that contradict the prequel story, but... well, I need to be lubed up a bit before I'll get my full SW Geek on.
Hunter Rose
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Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 04:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:07 PM) *
The story it told was how Anakin went from "annoying little kid" to "annoying emo teenager" to "annoying Jedi Knight" to Darth Vader. Shrug.gif

Not that "He missed his mommy" was the best way to go about it.

I could quote a bunch of lines from the original trilogy that contradict the prequel story, but... well, I need to be lubed up a bit before I'll get my full SW Geek on.

I could, too, seeing as how I know the first three (last three?) films verbatim.

"I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid."
Hunter Rose
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Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 04:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:07 PM) *
The story it told was how Anakin went from "annoying little kid" to "annoying emo teenager" to "annoying Jedi Knight" to Darth Vader. Shrug.gif

Not that "He missed his mommy" was the best way to go about it.

I could quote a bunch of lines from the original trilogy that contradict the prequel story, but... well, I need to be lubed up a bit before I'll get my full SW Geek on.

I could, too, seeing as how I know the first three (last three?) films verbatim.

"I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid."

you're hitting my spot

(okay I can abandon that metaphor now)
Cyberscream
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Jul 29 2008, 03:45 AM) *
QUOTE (G.A.S.H. @ Jul 29 2008, 03:09 AM) *
that clip was worse than Episode 1...


Oh come now, that was just mean.

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Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 04:22 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 04:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:07 PM) *
The story it told was how Anakin went from "annoying little kid" to "annoying emo teenager" to "annoying Jedi Knight" to Darth Vader. Shrug.gif

Not that "He missed his mommy" was the best way to go about it.

I could quote a bunch of lines from the original trilogy that contradict the prequel story, but... well, I need to be lubed up a bit before I'll get my full SW Geek on.

I could, too, seeing as how I know the first three (last three?) films verbatim.

"I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid."

you're hitting my spot

(okay I can abandon that metaphor now)

For some reason I feel incredibly icky and uncomfortable now.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 04:22 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Jul 29 2008, 04:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 29 2008, 04:07 PM) *
The story it told was how Anakin went from "annoying little kid" to "annoying emo teenager" to "annoying Jedi Knight" to Darth Vader. Shrug.gif

Not that "He missed his mommy" was the best way to go about it.

I could quote a bunch of lines from the original trilogy that contradict the prequel story, but... well, I need to be lubed up a bit before I'll get my full SW Geek on.

I could, too, seeing as how I know the first three (last three?) films verbatim.

"I don't seem to remember ever owning a droid."

you're hitting my spot

(okay I can abandon that metaphor now)

For some reason I feel incredibly icky and uncomfortable now.

I know.... I can feeeeel it palpatine.png
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