Lord Madhammer
Aug 1 2008, 03:24 PM
I think she's an awesome character... WHO DIED ALREADY OKAY

geez, what is it with these people
and FYI Boba Fett and Darth Maul stayed dead in my SW universe
trench
Aug 1 2008, 04:21 PM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 1 2008, 04:24 PM)

I think she's an awesome character... WHO DIED ALREADY OKAY

geez, what is it with these people
No kidding, they couldn't think up a new "badass" Sith character to get pnwed by a padawan in the final act?
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 1 2008, 04:24 PM)

and FYI Boba Fett and Darth Maul stayed dead in my SW universe
Mine, too.
I.S.T.
Aug 1 2008, 04:54 PM
The 11 year old padawan chick(I dunno what the farg the name of her species is...) is redundant as well...
Then again, this entire movie just clashes with Clone Wars animated and ROTS.
Lord Madhammer
Aug 1 2008, 05:04 PM
It technically does fit in, sandwiched between parts 1 and 2 of animated Clone Wars. Ya know when they do that crossfade from AotC Anakin/Obi-Wan to RotS Anakin/Obi-Wan... everything in the CGI Clone Wars takes place during that fade.
I.S.T.
Aug 1 2008, 05:10 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of the Count Dooku(Lamest name ever) fight. IIRC, doesn't Episode 3 kinda state that Anakin hadn't fought him since AOTC?
Lord Madhammer
Aug 1 2008, 05:58 PM
Not really.
Stormtrooper53
Aug 4 2008, 05:46 AM
QUOTE (Datastream @ Aug 1 2008, 09:25 AM)

The only reason I'll go see it is because it's Star Wars.
This is exactly what the good folks at LucasFilm and
20th Century Fox Warner Bros. (wuh-wah-wat???) are counting on.
*is taking son to see it for his birfday*
Jerrod
Aug 4 2008, 06:01 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 1 2008, 08:04 PM)

It technically does fit in, sandwiched between parts 1 and 2 of animated Clone Wars. Ya know when they do that crossfade from AotC Anakin/Obi-Wan to RotS Anakin/Obi-Wan... everything in the CGI Clone Wars takes place during that fade.
Actually, word from the director is that the projects are unrelated. So I guess that makes animated Clone Wars non-canon.
I read an interview with the director, Dave Filioni, that mentioned this...but naturally I can't find it anymore...
Lord Madhammer
Aug 4 2008, 06:06 AM
Well, we'll see what happens. Considering that Asajj Ventress was created for the Clone Wars cartoon... and a bunch of other such things. Not that I really care because this does look like 100% fail, but it'll just piss me off that much more if they try to pretend that the cartoon didn't happen.
Since it was the best prequel-related story EVER and stuff.
Jerrod
Aug 4 2008, 06:28 AM
What, you don't think the story of the Jedi sent to rescue Jabba the Hutt's kidnapped son will be any good?
Lord Madhammer
Aug 4 2008, 06:48 AM
*hilarity ensues*
SMITHSQUARED
Aug 4 2008, 09:35 AM
this movie cant possibly fill a feature film time slot, there doesnt seem to be enuff material
Stormtrooper53
Aug 4 2008, 09:36 AM
QUOTE (SMITHSQUARED @ Aug 4 2008, 12:35 PM)

this movie cant possibly fill a feature film time slot, there doesnt seem to be enuff material
It has a run time of 98 minutes.
Hey, remember when movies used to run 2 hours?
Lord Madhammer
Aug 4 2008, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (SMITHSQUARED @ Aug 4 2008, 12:35 PM)

this movie cant possibly fill a feature film time slot, there doesnt seem to be enuff material
Which makes the ongoing TV show part of it really... not something I want to watch
Cool Hand Lube
Aug 5 2008, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 4 2008, 07:48 AM)

*hilarity ensues*
Hey, baby Hutt farts are freaking funny, OK?
ROSEDOGGYDOG
Aug 5 2008, 12:11 PM
sorry the best animated SW's anything is still Robot Chicken.
Lord Madhammer
Aug 10 2008, 07:22 PM
Oh well, can't say that I'm surprised:
(warning: brutal words from the guy who gave Phantom Menace a positive review)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37874
Johnny Reb
Aug 10 2008, 08:56 PM
so i dunno if this was already said and im too lazy to check all 12 pages...but how does this movie fit into the timeline of the clone wars cartoons??? with Asajj fighting anakin as a jedi??? didnt he kill her in the first one AS A PADAWAN and now he's a jedi teacher and what the hell??
is george lucas gonna completly disregard it as noncannon or what.......cause if that is......i just got another reason to hate that guy
I.S.T.
Aug 10 2008, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 10 2008, 09:22 PM)

Oh well, can't say that I'm surprised:
(warning: brutal words from the guy who gave Phantom Menace a positive review)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37874I think you linked to the wrong thing.
Jerrod
Aug 11 2008, 05:29 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 10 2008, 10:22 PM)

Oh well, can't say that I'm surprised:
(warning: brutal words from the guy who gave Phantom Menace a positive review)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37874Damn you, Brett Ratner!
Lord Madhammer
Aug 11 2008, 05:35 AM
QUOTE (I.S.T. @ Aug 11 2008, 12:36 AM)

QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 10 2008, 09:22 PM)

Oh well, can't say that I'm surprised:
(warning: brutal words from the guy who gave Phantom Menace a positive review)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37874I think you linked to the wrong thing.

holy shit, it's gone!!
Harry Knowles saw Clone Wars and HAAAAAAAAAATED it. Just ripped it apart.
I guess somebody at ILM didn't want that to be posted just yet.
Stormtrooper53
Aug 11 2008, 06:03 AM
You're making it really hard for me to get pumped up about this movie. Knock it off, will ya?
Jerrod
Aug 11 2008, 06:14 AM
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Aug 11 2008, 09:03 AM)

You're making it really hard for me to get pumped up about this movie. Knock it off, will ya?
Unfortunately, since the Great Nerd Schism of 1997-1999, you are no longer allowed to get pumped for anything "Star Wars" in public. Sorry to say it.
But, on a side note, remember that it IS Harry Knowles, who wishes the guys at MST3K would've made their own movies to riff on rather than slag on lost classics. So, you know, he's not firing on all cylinders.
Haggisjin
Aug 11 2008, 06:21 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 11 2008, 06:35 AM)

QUOTE (I.S.T. @ Aug 11 2008, 12:36 AM)

QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Aug 10 2008, 09:22 PM)

Oh well, can't say that I'm surprised:
(warning: brutal words from the guy who gave Phantom Menace a positive review)
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37874I think you linked to the wrong thing.

holy shot, it's gone!!
Harry Knowles saw Clone Wars and HAAAAAAAAAATED it. Just ripped it apart.
I guess somebody at ILM didn't want that to be posted just yet.
I read it. It started off with "
I even liked Jar Jar, Hayden, Portman and Jake Loyd" and ended with "
OMFG THIS MOVIE SUCKS" for those who missed it.
Read that first sentence, and then read that second sentence repeatedly until it sinks in how bad this movie must be (at least compared to the CW cartoon).
I.S.T.
Aug 11 2008, 06:32 AM
QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 11 2008, 08:14 AM)

QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Aug 11 2008, 09:03 AM)

You're making it really hard for me to get pumped up about this movie. Knock it off, will ya?
Unfortunately, since the Great Nerd Schism of 1997-1999, you are no longer allowed to get pumped for anything "Star Wars" in public. Sorry to say it.
But, on a side note, remember that it IS Harry Knowles, who wishes the guys at MST3K would've made their own movies to riff on rather than slag on lost classics. So, you know, he's not firing on all cylinders.
I'm pretty sure Harry Knowles is the ultimate blind fanboy. I've never seen him trash anything.
Lord Madhammer
Aug 11 2008, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (I.S.T. @ Aug 11 2008, 09:32 AM)

QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 11 2008, 08:14 AM)

QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Aug 11 2008, 09:03 AM)

You're making it really hard for me to get pumped up about this movie. Knock it off, will ya?
Unfortunately, since the Great Nerd Schism of 1997-1999, you are no longer allowed to get pumped for anything "Star Wars" in public. Sorry to say it.
But, on a side note, remember that it IS Harry Knowles, who wishes the guys at MST3K would've made their own movies to riff on rather than slag on lost classics. So, you know, he's not firing on all cylinders.
I'm pretty sure Harry Knowles is the ultimate blind fanboy. I've never seen him trash anything.
Exactly. And make no mistake, he trashed this. Hard.
I.S.T.
Aug 11 2008, 06:59 AM
Stormtrooper53
Aug 11 2008, 07:07 AM
QUOTE (I.S.T. @ Aug 11 2008, 09:59 AM)

Hunter Rose
Aug 11 2008, 08:10 AM
Should we link it here just to be thurough?
HARRY KNOWLES FROM AICN
Harry hated THE CLONE WARS!
I’ve never hated a STAR WARS film before. I have weathered Jar Jar and any number of Ewoks. I survived Hayden and a wooden Portman. I even accepted Jake Lloyd. I handled all that because it felt like STAR WARS.
I can accept all of Lucas’ flaws, so long as at its heart it felt like Star Wars. I can deal with politics in Star Wars. I can deal with trade skirmishes in Star Wars. I can deal with musical numbers, breathing in the vacuum of space. Basically – so long as it feels like STAR WARS – I can watch any of it.
Was I looking forward to STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS (2008)?
******** A!
I was dying. After Genndy’s CLONE WARS – I felt that perhaps Lucas “got it” – and that this new animated series was taking a lead from Tartakovsky’s brilliant assembly of pieces. Genndy’s CLONE WARS got STAR WARS better than anyone has got it since Lawrence Kasdan and Irvin Kershner. Genndy took designs and characters that folks were dissatisfied with and made them cool. He did this by using and adapting the themes created by John Williams, the wholly perfect entity involved with Star Wars along with… the sound effects of Ben Burtt. He understood speed and motion – not just with action, but in editing. He understood classic film composition and iconography. And he knows what BADASS is.
The folks behind this STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS movie… you could tell, they looked at what Genndy did – but they didn’t understand any of it. There’s a ****load of battles and ***** going boom. There’s noise everywhere – fury everywhere… but none of it is directed. The music by Kevin Kiner is criminally bad. Why they didn’t employ Paul Dinletir and James Venable is beyond me. No, no – let’s hire the composer of WALKER, TEXAS RANGER. Ahem.
Now – I made excuses for this film as I was watching it. I don’t think you understand how much I love STAR WARS. Maybe you do, maybe you do too.
Before the movie started I was firing myself up to go out after the film and buy that new $200 Hasbro Millenium Falcon. I really wanted to go buy it, and I wanted this movie to empower my brain to go through with that. Instead, I found myself at home – putting on Genndy’s THE CLONE WARS – to try and rebuild my passion – so I can go get that new Falcon.
Instead – I’m thinking I’ll just be here at home enjoying this and that’ll be all I need.
Anyway – as I was watching the film, I was excusing the sloppy shots, the sloppy use of the Clone Troopers and Droids – undoing all the awesome work that Genndy had done – and the droids are silly again. The Clone Troopers are limp. And the Jedi – they’re at 25% power from the mind of Genndy. But I was accepting that. I figured that was Lucas dialing back so that the animated series wouldn’t overpower his features.
Then they introduced Baby Jabba aka Rotta the Huttlet aka Stinky. At the point of this character’s introduction – it officially became, the worst character in the history of STAR WARS. If you hate George Lucas cutsiepoo bull**** – oooooooh boy. You’re gonna have a field day of venting and hatred directed at this unbelievably ****ing awful little ****.
Oh – but wait… Little Stinky the Hutt isn’t the worst character in the history of STAR WARS… because Stinky got introduced earlier in the film. As much as I hated lil Stinky… I was weathering Stinky. I seriously was. But later there was a character of such immense **** – offensively bad. The character was so bad, so incredibly awful – that it was a slap to the face. It woke me out of my ****-accepting stupor and made me angry. SUDDENLY my “inner fanboy rage” was awoken.
As I watched this terrifyingly awful character named Ziro the Hutt. A seemingly female Hutt – with tattoos and make-up that sounds like a racist take on a Black New Orleans Crack-Dealing Whore. Because this Hutt speaks ENGLISH – and it is many times worse than I’m actually describing. This character was actually too much for me. So bad that every flaw I was looking past, was now a road sign to inadequacy and mediocrity. All of a sudden my brain realized that Asajj Ventress’ voice no longer was acceptable – and sure enough – the amazing Grey DeLisle, who originally voiced the character back in 2003 – had been replaced by a Nika Futterman – and that voice was missed. The character didn’t have that snarling menace anymore.
I realized that nothing in this animated film felt right. I felt time expanding. It seemed that the film was dragging – nevermind that lots of **** was firing all over the place – and stuff was going boom and things were being revealed. I just didn’t care because this wasn’t what I wanted.
I hated the score, the animation, the shots, the characters and most of all the retarded ******** idiot story.
I hated the film. HATED IT. REALLY HATED IT.
Does this mean the whole Star Wars Animated Series is doomed? No – but it isn’t a good sign. So much of this is awful because of the Hutt plotlines and character. I also feel that Dave Filoni must be a hack. His work here is sloppy – and depending on writers and directing talent – individual episodes may be better. This film was several episodes all strung together – my prayer is that the individual episodes will be both great and awful – and we’ll discover which talents are responsible for each.
That said – the audience did have light applause. My father liked it. My sister felt too much was going on. Me nephew really liked it. That said – Yoko was complaining right along with me. She thought it was **** too. I know Moriarty liked it. Wonder what Quint and Massawyrm thought.
****. I hated a STAR WARS. That ****ing sucks.
Jerrod
Aug 11 2008, 06:16 PM
So according to AICN, all the reviews they have aren't allowed to be posted until Friday due to an embargo put in place by Warner Bros. Lame.
Hobbes-timus Prime
Aug 11 2008, 06:25 PM
QUOTE (Jerrod @ Aug 11 2008, 06:16 PM)

So according to AICN, all the reviews they have aren't allowed to be posted until Friday due to an embargo put in place by Warner Bros. Lame.
Another indicator of how bad this flick must be. If the reviews were positive, they'd want them out there.
JustLOKIPLVY
Aug 11 2008, 07:46 PM
I'm not a huge Starwars fan but even I can appreciate the direction Gendy Tartakovsky went in for the animated Clone Wars. In less running time than a full length show he made everything that was out of place/lame in the prequel films and actually made it pretty cool.
Everything about "this" particualar animated incarnation looked like lost opportunity from the first trailer. Animated Clone Wars had wonderfully established a look and feel in a 2D medium which worked brilliantly. The three demensional CGI looks sad and uninspired, even when compared to most other computer generated efforts.
The creation team basically ripped off the asthetic of Gendy's characters and super imposed them in a CGI which could work but obviously didn't. It's also very sad Lucus didn't colaborate this with Gendy or cartoon network but instead relied on a handful of new uninpired talant.
I knew I was probably not going to see this from the first trailer
but now with rumours of even more obnoxious characters than Jar Jar taking up a majority of the screen time and lame uninspired droid battles and a bullsh*t plot about kidnapped Hutt children I already see Xfiles coming out a bigger success.
Maybe not. Should be a hit with the ten and under crowd.
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