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Darth Caine
Pretty much speaks for itself. Roots for the Autobots or Decepticons? laughlol.gif

And... WHY? skeletor.png
Hobbes-timus Prime
Um...it's not real. There's no point in "rooting" for anyone because it's all at the mercy of the writers, who will invariably make the Autobots the ultimate winners because it is a children's property.

But most of the characters I find to be most interesting are Autobots, so I probably own more of them, if that's what you're asking.
Lord Madhammer
I cant remember ever watching Transformers and thinking "man I hope the bad guys win."

except in A/E/C when I was hoping that Unicron would eat everyone, then self-destruct.
Darth Caine
It's not really have to be based on show only. The judgment could be based on several aspects, like toys, shows, comics, etc. Because I'm fully aware that, expecting bad guys to ultimately win is futile.
Hellscream333
<roots for the cons. knows the bots will win every year. Shrug.gif
Stormtrooper53
I can't vote because I can't really say I "root" for one side over the other.

With the exceptions of Blitzwing (always), the Insecticons (most of the time), Starscream and various Seekurz/flyers (ditto), and Megatron (sometimes) I can't really say I give a squat about the Decepticon characters. Most of my "favorite" characters are on the Autobot team.

Now, if we're talking about Predacons vs. Maximals...

EDIT: G1 Blitzwing DID rule the battlefield at my house, though. The Autobots on my little brother's team were always "OMG! HE'S A FIGHTER JET AND A TANK! WE'VE HAD IT NOW, FELLAS!"
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Caine @ Jul 21 2008, 03:19 PM) *
It's not really have to be based on show only. The judgment could be based on several aspects, like toys, shows, comics, etc. Because I'm fully aware that, expecting bad guys to ultimately win is futile.

I had a lot more Decepticon toys... probably just because they looked cooler. But that's always the way.
Nakashima Taiki
Autobots. I dunno why exactly, but most of my fav characters are autobots (excluding Blitzwing and the seekers) also, being a child-like-person, I feel the good guys should ultimately g1-OptimusPrimeAniLevelup.gif.

In animated, anyway.
Agent Zero
QUOTE (Hellscream333 @ Jul 21 2008, 04:19 PM) *
<roots for the cons. knows the bots will win every year. Shrug.gif

Same.

Though in BM I actually found myself agreeing with the bmcon.pngs
Harley_Quinn
I always love the villains more than the heroes. They are always cooler and more interesting.

Decepticons for the win.
FREEFALLL666
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jul 21 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Um...it's not real. There's no point in "rooting" for anyone because it's all at the mercy of the writers, who will invariably make the Autobots the ultimate winners because it is a children's property.

But most of the characters I find to be most interesting are Autobots, so I probably own more of them, if that's what you're asking.

Then why bother with it in the first place? Emotional attachment to a story involves rooting for the character. Take Armada Starscream. When he was on the Autobots you found yourself hoping that he would remove the purple Deceptibrand and change to Autobot. Though in the back of your mind you knew he was gonna be snotted by Galvatron you still rooted for him. Take Beast Wars Yes the Maximals won the battle but as evidenced by the start of Beast Machines they lost that war..

If you have no involvement and reduce it down to writers etc.. then there is no point to watching.
Agent Zero
QUOTE (FREEFALLL666 @ Jul 21 2008, 11:49 PM) *
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jul 21 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Um...it's not real. There's no point in "rooting" for anyone because it's all at the mercy of the writers, who will invariably make the Autobots the ultimate winners because it is a children's property.

But most of the characters I find to be most interesting are Autobots, so I probably own more of them, if that's what you're asking.

Then why bother with it in the first place? Emotional attachment to a story involves rooting for the character. Take Armada Starscream. When he was on the Autobots you found yourself hoping that he would remove the purple Deceptibrand and change to Autobot. Though in the back of your mind you knew he was gonna be snotted by Galvatron you still rooted for him. Take Beast Wars Yes the Maximals won the battle but as evidenced by the start of Beast Machines they lost that war..

If you have no involvement and reduce it down to writers etc.. then there is no point to watching.

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Hobbes-timus Prime
QUOTE (FREEFALLL666 @ Jul 21 2008, 07:49 PM) *
Emotional attachment to a story involves rooting for the character.

I agree...but that has what to do with rooting for the entire Autobot or Decepticon team like they're the local sports franchise?

I might cheer on Dinobot as he saves the human primitives from the Predacon assault - that doesn't automatically mean I'm a "Maximal fan" does it?

"Which team" is a weird question to me, because most of the Transformers fiction I am familiar with treats the war between the Bots and Cons as the setting of the story and not the main plot. The plot involves some of them going back in time or ending up on a planet where they're the size of toys. There's no point in "rooting" for a conflict that will never end. It'd be like rooting on the Allies during a WWII film. WWII films aren't about the end of the war, they're about the people caught in the middle. You'll never see the war get won in a such a film and that's not why you watch it.
FREEFALLL666
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jul 21 2008, 10:45 PM) *
QUOTE (FREEFALLL666 @ Jul 21 2008, 07:49 PM) *
Emotional attachment to a story involves rooting for the character.

I agree...but that has what to do with rooting for the entire Autobot or Decepticon team like they're the local sports franchise?

I might cheer on Dinobot as he saves the human primitives from the Predacon assault - that doesn't automatically mean I'm a "Maximal fan" does it?

"Which team" is a weird question to me, because most of the Transformers fiction I am familiar with treats the war between the Bots and Cons as the setting of the story and not the main plot. The plot involves some of them going back in time or ending up on a planet where they're the size of toys. There's no point in "rooting" for a conflict that will never end. It'd be like rooting on the Allies during a WWII film. WWII films aren't about the end of the war, they're about the people caught in the middle. You'll never see the war get won in a such a film and that's not why you watch it.

By your logic though there is no point to you watching Batman cause we all know Joker will be defeated and Batman will survive. No point in watching Bond or even movies like Dogeball or hell even Meet the Fokers..
Hobbes-timus Prime
QUOTE (FREEFALLL666 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:38 PM) *
By your logic though there is no point to you watching Batman cause we all know Joker will be defeated and Batman will survive. No point in watching Bond or even movies like Dogeball or hell even Meet the Fokers..

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No, dude, that's not my logic. My logic: you root for Bond, not "MI6". You root for Rudy, not "Notre Dame". You root for Optimus Prime, not "The Autobots". You root for individual characters, not generic groupings that may or may not contain those characters depending on the context in which they are used.

Optimus Primal vs. Quickstrike elicits a completely different "team loyalty" from me than does Air Razor Vs. Beast Wars Megatron. In one case I cheer on the Predacon and in the other I cheer on the Maximal because I don't blindly root for "teams" in fiction - I root for characters.

So the question of "Autobot or Decepticon?" means nothing.
Goktimus Prime
I voted for Autobots cos I'd totally root Arcee. Giggity!
Yuyuyami
I won't vote for no 4 wheelin' goody two shoes that cain't fly!
slugpitcher
i find the decepticon character's to be more imaginative and original. the autobots seem to be the same tired characters over and over.
Goktimus Prime
QUOTE (Yuyuyami)
I won't vote for no 4 wheelin' goody two shoes that cain't fly!

Powerdasher, Powerglide, Jetfire, the Aerialbots, Sky Lynx, Omega Supreme, Cosmos, Whirl, Swoop, Blades, Springer, Broadside, Sandstorm, Highbrow, Brainstorm, Cloudraker, Scattershot, Strafe, Raindance, Cloudburst, Phoenix, Sky High, Doubleheader, Crossblades, Skyhammer, the Air Patrol, Phaser, Blastmaster, "Autobot Leozak", Rotorstorm, Deftwing, Autobot Cyber-jets, Energon Bulkhead, Skyblast, Evac, Vector Prime, Mini-Con Thunderblast, Wing Sabre, the Clear Skies Team, Metalhawk, Fortress Maximus, Grand Maximus, Mach, Wing, Sixwing, Star Sabre, Victory Leo, Galaxy Shuttle, Sonic Bomber, Fly-Up, Tracks, Road Rage and Galaxy Convoy would care to disagree with you about that flightless Autobot thing. tounge1.gif

...and I whole lot of Decepticons without flight modes like the Constructicons, Stunticons, Barricade (G1 and movie)... you get the idea. icon_wink.gif
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jul 22 2008, 12:52 AM) *
You root for Rudy, not "Notre Dame".

Dude, I totally rooted against Rudy.
count-zackula
Well, y'know the old saying: bad guys make life interesting for the good guys! I think a lot of people are fascinated with the evil characters. I alwyas was attracted to the likes of Megatron, Skeletor, or Darth Vader since childhood. I remember secretly "rooting" for the baddies but knew that the good guys would always win. It always ticked me off when the villains came so close to accomplishing something and ended up running off, arms raised and flailing, when the good guys put a little heat on them. Face it, cartoon bad guys are lazy quitters! Whatever happens, HAPPENS...like someone said earlier...it's up to the writers.
Darth Caine
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Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Jul 22 2008, 08:03 AM) *
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jul 22 2008, 12:52 AM) *
You root for Rudy, not "Notre Dame".

Dude, I totally rooted against Rudy.

Mister Frodo!!!
SkyWarp80
While I do like some Autbots, I love the the decepitcons. Ruthless, for themselves, powerful, way better color schemes and faction symbols and the three original G1 seekers! I think the signature says it all.
Goktimus Prime
QUOTE (count-zackula)
Well, y'know the old saying: bad guys make life interesting for the good guys!

And vice versa. smiletf.gif Basically we need to have at least two sides in order to have a conflict.
Autobots/Maximals = Protagonists
Decepticons/Predacons/Vehicons = Antagonists tmyk.gif

Some of us may prefer one side over the other but storywise both sides need each other in order to provide conflicts to drive stories - and Transformers has always been a story of conflict. It's not as if anyone has ever written any detailed stories about Transformers during peacetime. Such periods are only ever mentioned in passing (e.g.: The Golden Ages, Pax Cybertronia etc). Not that I would necessarily object to TF stories written in peacetime... but I'm not sure if having Transformer soap dramas would be a terribly exciting prospect for most people and it would arguably not be a terribly good formula to sell action toys (primarily marketed at boys). tounge1.gif

Even Go-Go-Go-Bots still had conflicts despite the fact that they had no bad guys. They only had "naughty" Transformers that needed correcting. smiletf.gif

QUOTE (SkyWarp80)
and the three original G1 seekers! I think the signature says it all.

Are you talking about your avatar? Cos I don't see any image on your signature.

tmyk.gif In G1 the Decepticon jets were officially known as "Sky Raiders". The term "Hunter Seekers" was a term created by fans on the ATT newsgroup (circa 1994-95). "Seekers" entered official currency when it was used by Dreamwave Productions in their retro-G1 series.
...and knowing is half the battle! smiletf.gif
Seraphim Prime
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 31 2008, 09:16 AM) *
tmyk.gif In G1 the Decepticon jets were officially known as "Sky Raiders". The term "Hunter Seekers" was a term created by fans on the ATT newsgroup (circa 1994-95). "Seekers" entered official currency when it was used by Dreamwave Productions in their retro-G1 series.
...and knowing is half the battle! smiletf.gif



Actually...

I've just been reading IDWs rerelease of the Marvel G1 comics, and the term Hunter Seeker is quite clearly used in the issue "The Smelting Pool."

Not to argue with you or anything. tounge1.gif

Although if this was an IDW editorial change I don't know, as I don't have the originals.
Dynamo.dave
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 22 2008, 05:55 AM) *
QUOTE (Yuyuyami)
I won't vote for no 4 wheelin' goody two shoes that cain't fly!

Powerdasher, Powerglide, Jetfire, the Aerialbots, Sky Lynx, Omega Supreme, Cosmos, Whirl, Swoop, Blades, Springer, Broadside, Sandstorm, Highbrow, Brainstorm, Cloudraker, Scattershot, Strafe, Raindance, Cloudburst, Phoenix, Sky High, Doubleheader, Crossblades, Skyhammer, the Air Patrol, Phaser, Blastmaster, "Autobot Leozak", Rotorstorm, Deftwing, Autobot Cyber-jets, Energon Bulkhead, Skyblast, Evac, Vector Prime, Mini-Con Thunderblast, Wing Sabre, the Clear Skies Team, Metalhawk, Fortress Maximus, Grand Maximus, Mach, Wing, Sixwing, Star Sabre, Victory Leo, Galaxy Shuttle, Sonic Bomber, Fly-Up, Tracks, Road Rage and Galaxy Convoy would care to disagree with you about that flightless Autobot thing. tounge1.gif

...and I whole lot of Decepticons without flight modes like the Constructicons, Stunticons, Barricade (G1 and movie)... you get the idea. icon_wink.gif



How long did this take you?
Goktimus Prime
QUOTE (Seraphim)
Actually...

I've just been reading IDWs rerelease of the Marvel G1 comics, and the term Hunter Seeker is quite clearly used in the issue "The Smelting Pool."

Not to argue with you or anything. tounge1.gif

Although if this was an IDW editorial change I don't know, as I don't have the originals

yeah but those hunter-seekers are a different sub-class of Decepticons from the Sky-Raiders. The term "Sky Raiders" came from the G1 Marvel comics. Other continuities didn't really have a specific name for them beyond "Decepticon jets." tounge1.gif

e.g.: Ferak is a Hunter-Seeker whereas Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker are Sky-Raiders - whom fans later called "Seekers." I'm not sure if that's meant to imply that they're in the same class as the G1 Hunter-Seekers... but the use of the term "Seekers" in reference to the Sky-Raiders was initially fan usage (really originated from some American toy catalogue but entered common currency via the fandom).

Hunter-Seekers


Sky-Raiders
stiggy80
good guys but only because of ops, its strange that baddies are always cooler (darth all the way) but somethin bout prime bein a total boyscout i really really have an inordinate ammount of love for
Blitz
while more of my favourite characters seem to be decepticons my favourite toys are mostly autobots but I guess that's because they seem to make more autobot toys then decepticons
hrsanchez15
Gotta love those CONS!!!!!! beerchug1.gif con.png
ErikB
i've always liked the cons a bit more, they were heavily outnumbered it always seemed and still had the ability to rip it up.
Geminii
"Of course, the Destrons' mecha and ways are cooler."
Sularias


bruticus
Decepticons all the way baby!!!

As to why, well they just look meaner and harder than the Autobots imo...
Damolisher2
Yeah, this is kind of a silly question, and one which makes me wonder what the hell Raksha and her goons were smoking back in the 90s and the earlier part of this decade.

It's a kids' show. I don't root for anybody, I just watch and think "Hm, this is cool. I totally have to buy me that toy." You know, the toys Hasbro designed, with the Autobots as the good guys and Decepticons as bad guys. Let's be honest; if anyone'd know who's who, it's Hasbro.
Geminii
If it's just the toys, I've always had a slight lean towards the Decepticons, if only because I liked the engineering of their designs better in G1, and it kind of stuck. Whether or not that's still a valid view with the current toylines, I'm not sure - some of the Animated Autobots appeal to me more than the Cons.
Bestimus Mucho
Decepticons: Because it makes my fanfic more authentic if they win... wait... wtf? I don't write fan fics.



Decepticons: Because Turning into tanks with spikes on them is cooler than turning into your mom's mini-van/
Onyxleo
My vote goes to the Decepticons/Predicons. I just like their characters better. =P Waspinator, Starscream, Inferno, Tarantualus, Blackout......The list goes on. o_O
Spin-Out
My vote goes to the Autobots and Maximals.
Cyberscream
I've always found the villains more interesting. So in this case, go Decepticons! con.png
Alana
Whichever side has the most interesting and/or prettiest characters at any point in time. tounge1.gif Which can be either, depending on series~
Anton
Definitely Decepticons. I always root for the bad guys even though they never win. tounge1.gif Plus bad guys are cooler (usually)!
spysteak
decepticons villains are awesome PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! (LOL jetstorm qoute)
Galzamus
Is it okay to say both and neither?
deceptikhan
voted con.png

I almost voted autobot b/c of Optimus Prime's heroics. But all in all its a tie. Without one, the other isn't really cool. With BOTH of them, they give life to each other, IMO.

O & nltag, nice joke about fan fics! laughlol.gif
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