Rounding out the first wave of Universe figure reviews is Sunstreaker, the first of the original car brothers to roll out on this line. He's also one of the most anticipated figures to come out as of yet for Universe. See how he stacks up by clicking here for the review.

I hadn't realized that there had been no '84 cars released in Classics yet...

The review makes an error: Sunstreaker's head is ball jointed, not pin.

Except for Optimus Prime, Mirage, Bumblebee and Cliffjumper

And Blot, you're right. I had to go look again. Hard to tell, but you're right. I fixie.

Paint sucks on this fig same as Prowl. At least on mine anyway. I've got two slits on the "ears" that have almost no yellow....

"One strange quirk I found is an interchangeability of sorts. The arms and hands seem to slide right off naturally. Might be reading too much into that, but it's a curious design."

Prowl and two pack Prime (from last year) have the same 'pop off' joint design. I was thinking of this yesterday and I bet it's extremely cost effective. They can mold just one piece this way and the joint is included in the molding. I'm not a huge fan of these joints being exposed but I really can't complain other wise. They work.

It also makes it rather easy to produce Uni. Sideswipe. All they have to do is switch the fists around.

I'm actually rather amazed at the versatility of this mold. as far as i can see. it's basically the same as Sideswipes mold with a few minor differences. quite good really. i do wish the paints on figures like this matched the color molded parts a bit better. it seems thay yellow is especially difficult these days. Animated BB has the same problem in that area.

i'll wait till a can go into a stare to buy these though. i hate not being able to look at a figure and see if the paints look decent.

Oh yeah - I forgot about Mirage.

(i dont think he was counting minbots or Prime)

Edit: LOL "he" at first I didn't realize that the poster and the reviewer were the same guy.
Damnit Blitz-Wing - why'd you have to change your name... I never know who's who anymore.

i meant STORE! gawd i can't type tonight! a DURRR, Me splel rel gud!

This has been my favorite of the new classics line. I agree with the flaws and the different hue of yellow on top but this is also one of the bigger deluxe classics figures. I hope that there's a classics trailbreaker in store for us.


Let's see

Autobots Classic

Optimus

Bluestreak
Prowl
Jazz
Trailbreaker
Sideswipe
Sunstreaker
Ratchet
Ironhide
Hound
Mirage

Bumblebee
Cliffjumper
Huffer
Brawn
Gears
Windcharger

As far as the decepticons are concerned

We just need a classics

Soundwave

Rumble
Frenzy
Lazerbeak
Buzzsaw

Nice looking Autobot...yeah, I said it.

Still say we need more Decepticons, though.

Glad we're getting more of this cool line - the molds (overall) are some of the coolest ever. Hasbro has taken a few slick tricks learned from their Alt/BT lines & applied them to "Classics" (that 'reverse Autobot twins' gimmick is frakking GOLDen !)

Kinda hoping it does well enough that they can justify a re-release of the 1.0 figures, since many never seemed to make it here. (NOT holding my breath, though).

Let's not forget Wheeljack. Afterall, he was one of the original 18 Autobots that crashed into Mt. St. Hilary.

don't forget the mighty shockwave! And they are making a classics hound...granted it's the legends version, but still!

They're also doing a Deluxe Hound that comes with Ravage.

I think, depending on your point of view, that Wheeljack HAS come out already. He was released as part of the Energon line and also slightly recoloured for a re-release.

personally, methinks the following should be either re-released as-is or slightly recoloured for the classics line:

- Energon Wheeljack
- Energon Shockwave
- Cybertron Shortround as Seaspray
- Botcon Huffer as Henkei Huffer (with better paintjob)
- Botcon Huffer as "Pipes"
- All the seekers via Henkei

Any more?

The only problem with Energon Downshift is that he sucks.

I've been massively unimpressed with the quality of the paint apps on TFs recently... I've seen more smudges, overspray, and even fingerprints. It's really making TF purchasing into a crap shoot.

Energon Downshiftjack & Energon Shockblast FTL

NEW MOLDS PLZ KTHX

And I agree, the paint apps have been fairly inconsistent as of late.

However, I seem to have been lucky with all of my Universe figures (so far).

This to me is one major reason to go Henkei. You know the QC isn't gonna be crappy with them.

And I bet anything that they color Sunstreaker's arms and legs yellow/black instead of gray, which is a color he never had KTHX

to LMH's slavish sunstreaker arm color angst... so much for updating... (remembers same angst over the ALT/BT)

And FWIW - We've heard PLENTY of QC horror stories from Takara as well...
If i recall nearly half of the MP-UMs were painted in such a way that their legs were glued to each other and the box....

Sorry, I just think that gray and yellow is a spectacularly shitty color combination.

But really, they went to all this trouble to color Prowl and SilverBluestreak and Ironhide exactly exactly like G1, but this guy...

oh that's right, he's sharing parts with Sideswipe, and that saves Hasbro money.

I like's 'em all. I really have never paid that much attention to the shade or hue of a particular figure's arms, or slavishly scrutinized my figs for QC issues, but I really haven't had that many issues either.

I think what Hasbro has done with this mold brilliant. They actually can use the same mold and still have it look different, when it comes time to make Sideswipe.

annnnngst

I know, you'd think he was my favorite character of all time or something. I just like him, I guess.

Oh well, I have the Robot Heroes version and he's got yellow and black arms

It's not like retooling this fig as Sideswipe has any impact on what plastic colors they mold this figure in. They went gray for other reasons.

Secret reasons.



Indeed.

You're waiting on the Hentai version, aren't you?

Plan on doing what Hot Rod did to his Hentai Astrotrain?

This is something I continually find humorous...Hasbro makes every attempt to fanwank the RH guys to the minutia of detail, and not the more "serious" toys.

I think it's because they're cheaper. >.>

Agreed.
The RH figures are flying under the radar so to speak - so the designers can really "indulge"

I know, right

although my Galvatron needs a few more silver bits, I think they forgot something... luckily I happen to have DUN DUN DUNNN silver paint

BTW I haven't seen any of those new RH guys yet.

I saw them at a TRU when we were in Maryland... they did not sell quickly. The only set that was sold out (after I got to it) was the Galvatron/Sunstreaker one. I'm guessing that Cheets and BA are gonna pegwarm.

I would have gotten Hound and Blitzwing, but I could see that one of the Blitzwings had MY LEGS ARE MOLDED FUNKY disease and would have been a Fall-Over Hero. The other one was all sh*tty with the painting-y-ness.

I just got my first C2.0 yesterday, Sunstreaker...I'm afraid to open him because I don't want to be dissappointed. Sadly he was the only one in the store. All the "other" heathens beat me to them

I wish I could repaint my TFs... I'd have a G1 accurate Unicron faster than you can say "That shit be fast."

But I wouldn't say that.

DAMN YOU

I won't lie to you: Blitzwing DOES fall over easier than most Heroes.

But Hound is pure love. Four points of articulation, a big doofy grin, and MY FAVORITE AUTOBOT EVER.

Is Hentai Sunstreaker going to be like a dirty Kiss Player version?

There you said it! The magic "E" word! In my opinion, nothing from that updated GoBots line deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Classics/Universe. Then again, "one man's trash is another man's treasure."

Energon Wheeljack Downshift was one of their better efforts.

I'd actually say that Cybertron Wheeljack Downshift would be better repaint fodder for Wheeljack, since there's no way a guy with an accent like that would be caught dead driving being a Euro-trash fairymobile.

The Energon Decepticons were actually well done. The Autobots did get the shaft though.

Woah! 4 points of articulation?! *part sarcastic, part serious* But seriously usually they have 2 or 3 right? So what is this extra artc. part of? Is it he has moving legs and arms? or.... ?


Moving on, ... About the review that has sent this thread on railroad tracks up & down but maintained its steadyness about Universe Classics 2.0, I digress & want the Henkei! chromed and g1 painted versions more. BUT, unfortunately, i will end up with the Hasbro versions i realized (for now) b/c i already have 2 SETS of Classics versions 1.0 with 1 set all sealed in pckging. So it makes no sense to get Henkei, which are MORE, then Hasbro's with Henkei mixed. And i really dont wanna buy the molds 3 times.

The review was good Bli** i mean Cadogen as i will keep on reading them as you give em

I have several more coming. Oil Slick tonight, Snarl tomorrow. I've got Activators too, but I'm getting ready to move this weekend so it might be delayed. However, once the move is done I have the good stuff. I found both Leader class TF:A figures today

My WM friend/associate told me tommorow the Leaders and Voyagers come in. They have the first wave of voyagers but not Prime, GL, or Lugz.

Back to Universe Classics Sunstreaker, i just noticed how OFF the two yellows are. WOW that could make the figure look terrible depending on QC & painting it. It looks almost as if they used die cast/metal there where its a darker/not as bright yellow, (otherwards his chest) although i know they obviously didnt.

His waist joint, actually. Head, shoulders, and a waist. Only movie Prime (with the gun), and Dispensor are as posable.

Got Sunstreaker today!
I also saw Octankor (Pass) and Prowl (Waiting for the Bluestreak)

I like him! His paint seems good all over. He's a little floppy but it doesnt look like anything that some nail-polish wont cure.

I really like the Sideswipe version of his transform - these two are going to look nice together.

Does anyone have a link to the Head/chest fix on this guy?

This is the closest I've found....
http://forums.TFormers.com/talk/index.php?...95207&st=60

Ok thanks man. I made that Hot Shot mistake (hot rod) and went back to check & you left a comment. So did i, but I apoligize. I Just know too much about ALL Tfs & was insulted. But i did it to myself.




I went & picked up the 3 dlxs for Universe & im excited to open them!