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wazzpinator
did ANYONE notice this? that shockwave has 2 hands?who knows maybe in season 3 his hand gets cut off and he makes it into a gun.
Datastream
Ooooh, I didn't realize that till now. Good eye, man. As for your theory, maybe it gets cut off after his cover is blown.
Nomolos
maybe his left arm can change into a cannon. or maybe it gets altered when he adopts an earth mode. or maybe its an upgrade he buys/trades for from swindle or lockdown.
Goktimus Prime
I'm gonna go along with the hand-can-transform-into-gun theory. After all, Bumblebee's hands can transform into drills (that can shoot stuff... cos ya know, drills do that) and Bulkhead's hand transforms into wrecking balls.
( . Y . )
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 7 2008, 10:16 PM) *
After all, Bumblebee's hands can transform into drills (that can shoot stuff... cos ya know, drills do that)

I think it's been stated several times throughout the show that they are stingers. Where do you get "drills" from?

And I didn't notice the lack of Shockwave's dildo-hand. I guess if it wasn't important enough for us to notice, it won't be important enough to include. I guess being a "Punch/Counterpunch" is a lot cooler than a useless gun-hand.
Asthaloth
Wait. Why does Shockwave need a gun hand again?



Fanwank aside?
Nomolos
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jul 9 2008, 04:10 AM) *
Wait. Why does Shockwave need a gun hand again?



Fanwank aside?


I guess the same reason Megs needs ABFG & HELMUT, or Prime needs to be a truck with an axe, bumblee is yellow with horns, ratchet is an ambulance with a crest thingy on his head, Omega supreme had one arm that was a cannon, Blurr was blue and talks fast, wreck gar was voiced by wierd al, SS sounds whiny, Swindle had purple eyes, the constructicons turned green and purple, blitzwing is a triple changer...need more examples?

you can't put fanwank aside, this show has been fanwank nonstop since it started. why give shockwave a one dot face? fanwank. why give him that calm, frigid voice? fanwank. why make him the decepticon on cybertron? fanwank. WHY GIVE HIM A CANNON HAND?



yep you guessed it, fanwank. that is the only reason. but if its reason enough for everything else in the show Shrug.gif
( . Y . )
QUOTE (Nomolos @ Jul 9 2008, 12:50 PM) *
you can't put fanwank aside, this show has been fanwank nonstop since it started. why give soundwave a one dot face? fanwank. why give him that calm, frigid voice? fanwank. why make him the decepticon on cybertron? fanwank. WHY GIVE HIM A CANNON HAND?
yep you guessed it, fanwank. that is the only reason. but if its reason enough for everything else in the show Shrug.gif

Why would you give Soundwave those things? grimlocklaugh.gif
Darth Caine
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 9 2008, 11:08 AM) *
QUOTE (Nomolos @ Jul 9 2008, 12:50 PM) *
you can't put fanwank aside, this show has been fanwank nonstop since it started. why give soundwave a one dot face? fanwank. why give him that calm, frigid voice? fanwank. why make him the decepticon on cybertron? fanwank. WHY GIVE HIM A CANNON HAND?
yep you guessed it, fanwank. that is the only reason. but if its reason enough for everything else in the show Shrug.gif

Why would you give Soundwave those things? grimlocklaugh.gif


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Nomolos
oops

oops, I was occupied at work. fixxxed now tho.
I'm Batman
QUOTE (Nomolos @ Jul 9 2008, 01:45 PM) *
oops

oops, I was occupied at work. fixxxed now tho.

Thankfully the quotes will live on.

Personally I don't care if Shockwave has a cannon hand. He might like being ambidextrous for a change.
Michael Dracon
He's in the series. He's got 1 eye. He's a Decepticon communication officer working on Cybertron. He's even voiced by the same actor.

I think that's more than enough fanwank there already.

At least this time around he actually has more to do than just watch the spacegate and guard it (which he wasn't very good at in G1, I might add). And he's a spychanger now.

The only thing I hope is that they re-color him to his G1 colors, just like the Constructicons. The Botcon panel told us there is a reason for him having a different color. I'd like to think it was done to avoid people knowing who he really was the second he appeared on the screen. I seem to recall them thinking about making him purple, but not knowing if they'll go through with it.
Thad_theImpaler
FWIW, Shockwave had 2 hands in his first appearance in the original Transformers series.
Schlecki02
QUOTE (Thad_theImpaler @ Jul 10 2008, 06:55 AM) *
FWIW, Shockwave had 2 hands in his first appearance in the original Transformers series.


what ? I never noticed that °_O But you're right, two hands ... I just watched it again =)
( . Y . )
QUOTE (Michael Dracon @ Jul 10 2008, 06:08 AM) *
I think that's more than enough fanwank there already.

The only thing I hope is that they re-color him to his G1 colors

Agent TMan
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jul 8 2008, 12:56 AM) *
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 7 2008, 10:16 PM) *
After all, Bumblebee's hands can transform into drills (that can shoot stuff... cos ya know, drills do that)

I think it's been stated several times throughout the show that they are stingers. Where do you get "drills" from?

And I didn't notice the lack of Shockwave's dildo-hand. I guess if it wasn't important enough for us to notice, it won't be important enough to include. I guess being a "Punch/Counterpunch" is a lot cooler than a useless gun-hand.

I noticed it when he was being threatening to "The test subject"

If they keep up with tradition, Shockwave will not receive an earth mode.
Cyberscream
In Animated? Yea I noticed. Theres that one time he goes from Longarm Prime to Shockwave and he takes his hands up for a second to show his evilness. optimuslaugh2.gif Anyhow I doubt they will do the thing about having his arm be blasted or cut off and getting that. In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)
Agent TMan
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:15 PM) *
In Animated? Yea I noticed. Theres that one time he goes from Longarm Prime to Shockwave and he takes his hands up for a second to show his evilness. optimuslaugh2.gif Anyhow I doubt they will do the thing about having his arm be blasted or cut off and getting that. In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)

You haven't been watching animated have you? every bot on the show except Blackarachnia and the Dinobots scanned and got body alterations. Even Soundwave started as a small bot and got and upgrade.
Cyberscream
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 12:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:15 PM) *
In Animated? Yea I noticed. Theres that one time he goes from Longarm Prime to Shockwave and he takes his hands up for a second to show his evilness. optimuslaugh2.gif Anyhow I doubt they will do the thing about having his arm be blasted or cut off and getting that. In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)

You haven't been watching animated have you? every bot on the show except Blackarachnia and the Dinobots scanned and got body alterations. Even Soundwave started as a small bot and got and upgrade.

What does that have to do with what I said? I never said anything about that. If your saying Shockwave will scan and get a new body getting the arm your wrong. He has no reason to go to Earth.
Agent TMan
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 12:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:15 PM) *
In Animated? Yea I noticed. Theres that one time he goes from Longarm Prime to Shockwave and he takes his hands up for a second to show his evilness. optimuslaugh2.gif Anyhow I doubt they will do the thing about having his arm be blasted or cut off and getting that. In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)

You haven't been watching animated have you? every bot on the show except Blackarachnia and the Dinobots scanned and got body alterations. Even Soundwave started as a small bot and got and upgrade.

What does that have to do with what I said? I never said anything about that. If your saying Shockwave will scan and get a new body getting the arm your wrong. He has no reason to go to Earth.

You said "In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)"

That's not true.
Cyberscream
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 01:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 12:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:15 PM) *
In Animated? Yea I noticed. Theres that one time he goes from Longarm Prime to Shockwave and he takes his hands up for a second to show his evilness. optimuslaugh2.gif Anyhow I doubt they will do the thing about having his arm be blasted or cut off and getting that. In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)

You haven't been watching animated have you? every bot on the show except Blackarachnia and the Dinobots scanned and got body alterations. Even Soundwave started as a small bot and got and upgrade.

What does that have to do with what I said? I never said anything about that. If your saying Shockwave will scan and get a new body getting the arm your wrong. He has no reason to go to Earth.

You said "In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)"

That's not true.

I ment as in when they get their Earth mode. Also in TFA many TFs stay with their Cybertron mode.
formerly nortagem
Alright guys...back on topic...two hands! (total animation mistake, but fun anyway):

http://images.wikia.com/transformers/image...kwave_Hands.jpg
BLACKOUT34
QUOTE (formerly nortagem @ Jul 10 2008, 01:52 PM) *
Alright guys...back on topic...two hands! (total animation mistake, but fun anyway):

http://images.wikia.com/transformers/image...kwave_Hands.jpg


they probably did the same thing in animated...
Cyberscream
Wait a sec... Is this on the G1 Shockwave? Ohh... I thought this topic was based on Animated Shockwave... Hehe.
Cyberscream
K now I'm just confused. If would help if you said which Shockwave you were talking bout. Cause formerly nortagem posted a pic with G1 and before it was TFA so I just have no idea.
Taaron
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 09:54 PM) *
K now I'm just confused. If would help if you said which Shockwave you were talking bout. Cause formerly nortagem posted a pic with G1 and before it was TFA so I just have no idea.


It's Animated Shockwave, but I think the G1 Shockwave image was also supposed to represent that Shockwave, at points, in G1 was given two hands as well.
Goktimus Prime
zOMG! Maybe it's an intentional blunder as a homage, just like how Jango Fett smacks his head when entering Slave-1 just like that Stormtrooper on the Death Star in A New Hope!! *nerd.snort.laffter* BD
Michael Dracon
QUOTE (BLACKOUT34 @ Jul 11 2008, 02:46 AM) *
QUOTE (formerly nortagem @ Jul 10 2008, 01:52 PM) *
Alright guys...back on topic...two hands! (total animation mistake, but fun anyway):

http://images.wikia.com/transformers/image...kwave_Hands.jpg


they probably did the same thing in animated...



Animated has its small share of animation errors. I've seen Blitzwing have his Cybertron wings on his back in robot mode several times in very recent episodes, mainly when he's inside Megatron's cave. Mixmaster's tracks were suprisingly similar to Blitzwing's in the last episode at one point as well.
BLACKOUT34
QUOTE (Michael Dracon @ Jul 11 2008, 04:19 AM) *
QUOTE (BLACKOUT34 @ Jul 11 2008, 02:46 AM) *
QUOTE (formerly nortagem @ Jul 10 2008, 01:52 PM) *
Alright guys...back on topic...two hands! (total animation mistake, but fun anyway):

http://images.wikia.com/transformers/image...kwave_Hands.jpg


they probably did the same thing in animated...



Animated has its small share of animation errors. I've seen Blitzwing have his Cybertron wings on his back in robot mode several times in very recent episodes, mainly when he's inside Megatron's cave. Mixmaster's tracks were suprisingly similar to Blitzwing's in the last episode at one point as well.


well it could be animation errors but IMO it was just a homage to teh G1 animation errors
Cyberscream
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 11 2008, 12:27 AM) *
zOMG! Maybe it's an intentional blunder as a homage, just like how Jango Fett smacks his head when entering Slave-1 just like that Stormtrooper on the Death Star in A New Hope!! *nerd.snort.laffter* BD

optimuslaugh2.gif Yea I noticed that too being a fan of so much. They did that on purpose to show how much the clones are like him, or just need different helmet sizes. jetstorm.gif Well anyhow, I think if it was G1 it may have been an animation mistake or Shockwave could have switched blaster or hand when he wanted. In TFA he just doesn't have one. Thats my final say in this topic.
Agent TMan
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 04:04 PM) *
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 01:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 12:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:15 PM) *
In Animated? Yea I noticed. Theres that one time he goes from Longarm Prime to Shockwave and he takes his hands up for a second to show his evilness. optimuslaugh2.gif Anyhow I doubt they will do the thing about having his arm be blasted or cut off and getting that. In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)

You haven't been watching animated have you? every bot on the show except Blackarachnia and the Dinobots scanned and got body alterations. Even Soundwave started as a small bot and got and upgrade.

What does that have to do with what I said? I never said anything about that. If your saying Shockwave will scan and get a new body getting the arm your wrong. He has no reason to go to Earth.

You said "In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)"

That's not true.

I ment as in when they get their Earth mode. Also in TFA many TFs stay with their Cybertron mode.
Which ones kept their Cybertron modes that came to Earth?
Cyberscream
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 11 2008, 08:21 AM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 04:04 PM) *
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 01:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jul 10 2008, 12:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 10 2008, 03:15 PM) *
In Animated? Yea I noticed. Theres that one time he goes from Longarm Prime to Shockwave and he takes his hands up for a second to show his evilness. optimuslaugh2.gif Anyhow I doubt they will do the thing about having his arm be blasted or cut off and getting that. In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)

You haven't been watching animated have you? every bot on the show except Blackarachnia and the Dinobots scanned and got body alterations. Even Soundwave started as a small bot and got and upgrade.

What does that have to do with what I said? I never said anything about that. If your saying Shockwave will scan and get a new body getting the arm your wrong. He has no reason to go to Earth.

You said "In Transformers if a TF looks like something they stay that way (unless they become a Prime, get reborn etc.)"

That's not true.

I ment as in when they get their Earth mode. Also in TFA many TFs stay with their Cybertron mode.
Which ones kept their Cybertron modes that came to Earth?

Only one I think, Lockdown (he has the same Muscle car mode on Earth as he does in the flash back Ratchet has back on Cybertron). But that doesn't matter with this topic based on Shockwave because in TFA Shockwave never went to Earth, keeping his Cybertron mode on Cybertron. Now there you go.
Goktimus Prime
Blackarachnia's alt mode is also non-Terran. She acquired it on that planet where she was "reborn."
Cyberscream
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 11 2008, 07:45 PM) *
Blackarachnia's alt mode is also non-Terran. She acquired it on that planet where she was "reborn."

Yea her too.
Liege Evilmus
QUOTE (Cyberscream @ Jul 12 2008, 06:23 AM) *
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 11 2008, 07:45 PM) *
Blackarachnia's alt mode is also non-Terran. She acquired it on that planet where she was "reborn."

Yea her too.


What was up with BlackArachnia's helmet being on the ground near all the energon when Elita, Optimus, and Sentinel, first got to that planet?

I always thought that was either ment for a possible future plot device, or just some real bad foreshadowing.
Detective Barricade
I don't think that Blurr got an Earth mode either.
Cyberscream
QUOTE (Detective Barricade @ Jul 12 2008, 07:13 AM) *
I don't think that Blurr got an Earth mode either.

You never see if thats Blurr's Cybertron mode or if he scanned it as an Earth vehicle.
Goktimus Prime
yeah I'd say it's an Earth mode considering that everyone else thought that he was an Earth car. tounge1.gif
Detective Barricade
QUOTE (Goktimus Prime @ Jul 14 2008, 02:12 AM) *
yeah I'd say it's an Earth mode considering that everyone else thought that he was an Earth car. tounge1.gif


They also thought that about Lockdown as well (except for Ratchet because of a previous encounter).
Michael Dracon
I thought that Lockdown's Cybertron alt-mode was always in the dark. I don't remember ever seeing his car mode clearly while he was on Cybertron.
Goktimus Prime
perhaps Earth cars happen to look kinda Cybertronian cos of Sumdac's brilliant™ reverse-engineering. (>_>)
Darth Caine
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