Mine (short version)

Paint apps suck on all three. The white on prowl matches the car but there's only one coat of it and you can see the doors through it. Makes the toy look cheap. Same goes for Sunstreakers roof and OMG, his ears are gross looking. One more coat of paint would have done wonders. Tankor faired the best in this department but the apps on his tailfins are about as non straight as you can get. Can we please get some better peeps to apply paint? I hate doing touch ups!

Transformations are fun, involved and pretty complicated. All thumbs up here.

Tankor:..... well.... uh... where do I start? He's pretty much ugly in all modes. Robot mode is the best out of the three and both of his alt modes suffer from the other. Truck mode has several points of just hollow going on not to mention propellors that jut out the bottom and keep the truck from rolling. Plane mode has a giant belly and looks like inside out boy in the back. I know most of you didn't like Astrotrain but this guy makes him look great. (I personally love Classics Astrotrain)

Sunstreaker: No complaints really. The pop off engine thingy is annoying for being hollow but otherwise I like this toy.

Prowl: Paint apps aside he's great.

I'm skippin these guys..

TF:A has my undivided attention.. I could give a rats ass about these guys. I may pick up some repaints though.. Crasher and Acid Storm perhaps.

Tankor's the only one of these three that interests me. Looks like a fun figure.

Prowl looks great but... I dunno, for some reason just seems boring. He's TOO traditional for me. After hyper-detailed Alts and hyper-stylized Animated and Movie figures, I don't know if just a plain old car will do it for me... I just feel like he's TOO G1... talk about hard to please.

Sunstreaker, well, the only problem he has is that Sideswipe's coming out in a few months. I like red better, I like his head better, and I like the car hood chest more than the windshield. I love how the legs remind me of the Rodimus Prime and Mirage Alternators.

Tankor looks great. Awesome robot mode, his truck mode looks pretty good and the plane mode... isn't awful, at least.

Good, Bad, and Ugly on all three.....

Good-

Super detailed, fun and innovative transformation sequences, great weapons storage in vehicle mode, great articulation, and they look amazing in all modes (even Tankor/Octane).

Bad-

The paint aps seem sloppy, Prowl needs an extra coat or two on his doors/wings. Prowl's overall paint scheme, while G1 accurate, is bland. Hasbro should have looked to Movie Barricade for inspiration regarding his deco.
Tankor/Octane's blade weapon/plane bottom/tanker cover is a little lame, but you can make it work as a shield, which looks better.
Tankor/Octane's shoulders could stand to be lowered a bit.

Ugly-

Nothing. These guys are awesome toys overall. Much better then Animated, though I know I'm in the minority there.

animated is horrid so these better be good !

I think I'm really being swayed by pure aesthetics on this one. I was really looking forward to picking up some of these, but Animated with its pretty paint and sculpting totally has me now. But if they're your thing, that's cool. I'm just surprised that I'm not into them now that they're out.

I only grabbed Prowl, so I'll comment on him.

I'll too say the paint on the doors is a little thin on mine. The other one on the peg had the same problem, but a little worse, and with a little overspray on one of the windows. Other than that, I would have liked the appendages a dull white like Ramjet's white parts, as Prowl's arms and legs are a little too shiny for me. Silver cannons would have been nice. I also prefer the straight light bar (as pictured on the back of the package) over what we got.

Overall though, I'm blown away with him. He fits in perfectly with my other Classics figures.

I'm feeling about the same.

Only have two TFA figs and though there rumored to be the worst of the lot I really enjoy em. Can't wait for more to eventually show up.

Universe looks decent but unlike animated isn't doing a good job of capturing my imagination. Tankor/Octane looks to be the most innovated, and fun to play around with. Sunstreaker I don't have a problem with and find he looks pretty good for a mini altinator. Prowl easily looks the worst and least interesting. The alt aesthetic though in check suffers from being bland, and horribly painted/decaled. Maybe Silverstreak will look better.

I'll decide when I see them. Considering of course I have everything I want from TFA that's in stock.

How do you get it to work as a shield? That's the only thing that's distracting me from having it as a great figure.

It's simple (i think): don't open it up! I want these figures! And for those who couldn't tell, my willpower is weak at best.

Well the only thing I'm not crazy about so far is Tankor's blade weapon. Other than that they are a big win for me. Again either I'm not that picky or I got lucky because the paint jobs look just fine on mine.

Tankor

Good:
-Triple Changer
-I love the transformation to and from all 3 modes, it's very fun
-The detail in plane mode is pretty good

Bad:
-His melee weapon is sometimes awkward
-back of truck mode has a gap

Ugly:
-Arms and shoulders are weird, and I think the hands are ugly, especially if you don't twist/turn them.


Sunstreaker

Good:
-Robot mode is very solid, just make sure you lock the back piece correctly
-I like the look of his legs
-Headsculpt is awesome IMO
-Can turn his waste, head, and switch the arms for a different chest plate

Bad:
-Feet are a pain to transform, but that may just be me not knowing how to transform him well

Ugly:
Non, this figure is pretty good.


Prowl

Good:
-Cool missiles
-I like how he has door wings, like movie bumblebee and his g1 self
-pretty cool poses with this guy (he has two knees!)

Bad:
-hard to balance

Ugly:
-Headsculpt is bleh, his face expression doesn't look good
-shoulders look slightly out of place
-legs don't look proportioned right

Thanks to you guys (the Fans), I have made an educated descision to buy:

Sideswipe FTW!

Streak, I may buy Prowl and swap out certain color parts... Need more info...

Galvatron, depending on further pics showcasing articulation...

Ironhide or Ratchet... need more pics...


Takara Onslaught is already Preordered through BBTS!


Let's see who else Hasbro decides to re release in this line...

Any bets on Optimus Prime and Megatron? I've already seen the box artwork on a Hasbro sign...

We already got them as Classics/Henkei! figures.





Universe is a continuation of Classics, not a completely separate line.

AoiJuuni, you just need to play with the position of Tankor/Octane's forearm and hand. Rather then fully transform his left forearm/hand, keep them so the plane detailing stays lined up. That will give you more options for positioning his blade weapon, even keeping it closed as a shield.



If you need more (better) pics, just ask.

Looking foward to getting all the dlx new mold's coming out including Streak AND Prowl, Sideswipe & Sunstreaker, Octane, Ironhide & Ratchet and the 2 Ultra's Onslaught & Powerglide (id like to get the Takara versions of the ladder if poss.)

But even know i have 2 sets of Classics MISB, & have to keep THAT collection going, i still am more interested in TF:A for some reason. And im mad c uz i never found a Henkei! Prime @ retial.

My greatest hope is that Classics 2.0 will have better paint aps that aren't as likely to chip as soon as you take them out of the box. I understand that Classics was just supposed to be a filler line and that Hasbro had to really watch costs, but it just seems wrong to put cheap paint on a great mold!

Next greatest hope for Universe Classics-- Powermaster Optimus Prime w/ more than 2 POINTS of articulation! Ahhh, it's nice to dream, isn't it...?

I think what it is ..... <_< >_> <_< ... is some of us are a lil tired of the norm. Atleast subconiously .. I mean, Tranformers, outside of the Beastwars days have been more or less the same.. well, no even then.. they still LOOKED like Transformers but in animal skins. I mean, I'm totally looking at my TFA Screamer right now, I got him posed all smuggly and stuff.. and he looks REALLY REALLY good. And I mean, he's sharing space at the moment with guys who don't share the same style..
-Universe Landfill (green painted ones) BM T-wrecks, Universe Razorclaw, BW Terrorsaur, and Armada Nemesis Prime. Saddly, none of these guys can pull the same kind of look.. being able to stand tall and proud and look all devious. I think it's great! ... and I was worried for the longest time these guys would look crappy next to all the other guys I accumlated over the years... they do stand out.. but in a good way.

I'm really enjoying these guys. Seriously.

I picked up Sunstreaker and Tankor so far, and quite honestly I'm not as happy with them as I thought I would be. Sunstreaker has a great car mode and a nice homage robot mode, but his transformation seems to take a lot longer than other classics, and it feels like I'm gonna break him while transforming, especially in the chest and shoulders. Plus in robot mode he's noticeably taller than the other deluxe classics.

Tankor/Octane is pretty easy to transform, but there are too many gaps and holes in all of his modes, he can't roll very well, and his head articulation basically doesn't exist. Granted, both figures are improvements on the 84 and 86 versions, and I'll continue to collect them all for displaying, but I'm much more impressed with the TFA figures, which I didn't think would be the case.

I feel the same way. I want to like the Universe figures...but they just look like more poseable G1 figures, and I don't like it. But I'm sure that exactly what some people wanted, though. Animated is the aesthetic I've been looking for.

However, Classics Mirage is still one of the best Transformers ever made ever IMO.

i do really like mirage, he is on a different level from all other tf's ever he could almost hang out with the revoltechs

See, for me the movie line was different in a good way. Animated's different in the "I don't like this" way.
Different strokes for different folks though.

i grew to really dislike the movie line, aside from starscream and concept bumblebee, i dont have a need for any of the guys that had screen time, a lot of the others (including the aveo) rock my socks

I love all the new universe line, ALL.

Quick question. I know about the "Reverse hood-chest" arrangement for Sunstreaker, but I'm curious abut the legs position. I'm not partially hot on the desing of the car's profile/tire being the front, but I was wondering if there was a way to pose him with the top of the Car's rear out front...

In other words; rotate the lower legs' 90 degrees so the designated sides of the legs become the front?

Yes, that is possible.

aveo swerve? that was a universe figure

You mean something like this?

You can, but the lower legs would have to be swapped around to get the waist/upper legs to appear correctly, and it's not exactly the most stablest thing around. (Apologies in advance on the picture quality. I took down my old table I had my photo set-up on, and haven't got around to putting up the new desk in it's place.)

My only real complaint is out of the three figures Sunstreaker’s chest will not stay straight.

When you twist it to turn the head out it will not go all the way straight, and if you try to turn it straight it pops off.

I will have to fix this issue, take it back, or get used to the reverse chest transformation.

Oh yea and the paint sucks really badly!!!

And Tankor’s transformation is not any better than his G1 Octane Version. I thought the goal was to improve on this after 20 something years of toy making.

But I do like all three figures.

Weird, I haven't had a single issue with mine and I play with them constantly.



I never had G1 Tankor but it's not really about the transformation so much as the modes, articulation and appearance. Tankor pretty much looks like butt to me. As I previously stated all of his modes are flawed by all of his other modes. The nicest of the three is robot mode but even that suffers a bit...stupid hands.

I would be happy with either of these variations for SideSwipe.
And I think the stability issue would be solved if it was actually designed that way and not "mis-transformed".

EDIT - oh yeah the second pic doesnt really adress the question since it was regarding the Sideswipe version of the mold.

Ok I fixed my Sunstreaker!

Just in case anyone else has this problem all I did was cut two tabs off, one is on the base that the Head is on in the back and the other is on the grey part that catches the head base in the back.

My head goes up farther now and even looks better!

I've re-read Hadlen's post a few times, to make sure I had read it right. He makes no mention of which mode (or mold) the figure would be. Also, consider the question was: I do believe I addressed the question.

Prowl: Well, now that I have him in hand, I'm pretty pleased with him. I like the sparse deco and the transformation is an interesting take on the original G1 Prowl transform (in that it's not a direct rip of the original transform, but achieves pretty much the same look of the G1 design). Also, I like the sparse deco. The only two things that I wish had been done differently are:

The shoulder launchers - I wish they had been either molded in gray plastic or painted. Not a big deal though, as I fold them down for the G1 toon look.

The feet - I wish the flip-out heels were a bit longer. As they are right now, it's hard to keep him properly balanced. Unless he's posed juuuuuust right, he tends to fall over.

And also, his head does sit up a bit. Kinda funny looking, but nothing horrible. I find that if you push the car roof up a little bit it offsets it.



Sunstreaker: and
A great figure. The best of the three new deluxes, hands down. I can't wait for the Sideswipe retool.



The "Sideswipe" transformation (yeah, the hands aren't swapped I know)



Octane: My least favorite of the three, and probably my least favorite Classics TF overall. Man, when I first opened him, I completely hated him and almost took him back to TRU. My opinion of him has softened somewhat, but my main gripes are:

1. Three Half Assed Modes! The best one is the Jet. The tanker truck is worthless if you have carpeted floors. I expect to see a lot of these with broken propellers in the future (ya know, if kids actually play with it.)

2. WTF his head doesn't come up all the way Seriously. I know there are fixes for this, and I tried one of them. I'm not willing to slice up my fingers to get his chin to clear his chest (I think I may have raised his head a little, but only as much as safety would allow). Unlike the easy fix of Animated Bumblebee's stingers (just keep whittling away at excess plastic), there isn't enough clearance to get an exacto knife in there without either cutting your fingers, breaking the entire assembly, or accidentally mangling the head.

3. The hands. Okay, okay. I understand that they need to form another part of one of the alt. modes. Cool, you molded in hand details, but really...molded details don't do any good if they don't stand out. A little silver paint goes a long way, Hasbro.

4. That shield/claw thingy. Really, what's the deal with all these obtrusive claw-spinny-things? First on the Classics 2 pack Megatron, and now one for Octane? At least you had the good sense to keep it as a removable item.

Now, with all that said, I've done as much as I can to "turn that frown upside down". I did what I could w/the head, and found an alternate transform for the arms so they aren't so high up.

Alt. transform:





The original way.



Yeah, he's not my favorite, but I do like him more with the alternate arm transformation. Honestly, if it weren't for that I would have probably gone ahead and returned him. I still can't understand how people think this guy is better than Classics Astrotrain. Personally, I like Astrotrain better - decent shuttle mode, okay train mode and a solid bot mode. Octane does have a better colorscheme though

I'm a big time Prowl honk, so I'm hard pressed to find anything really wrong with this figure, other than that smokey brown paint app. on the rear windows, and that the missiles probably should be silver.

Octane err uh, Tankor is a mess. Big time gaps in both vehicle modes. The whole propellers under the truck thing really irrates me! I think is arms are a bit stubby, a-la G1 Astrotrain, and that mellee weapon is best suited as a shield!

Sunstreaker I was quite suprised with. Not a big fan, but other than the difficult arm transformation and lousy hood paint app. I really like this one. Nice G1 nod on the license plate as well! WE R 84! Classic!

That arm transformation is way better. I didn't think something like that would have worked originally because of that weird angle the shoulders/cockpit halves sit in at.

Wow, kickass alternate transformation on OcTankor. Very cool. He's MUCH better now. Great find.
I wouldn't say TankTane is better then Astrotrain. As far as triple changers go, Classics Astrotrain's hard to beat. I do think Tankor/Octane complements him nicely though.

^I'm so doin that. great idea.

Can anyone take pictures of OcTainkor without the shield in his truck and plane modes?

Of those two modes look at least decent without it, I'll get this guy. Otherwise, no farging way. I don't want to keep track of a part that's necessary in all modes but one. Weapons are fine for part forming, but not if you can't afford to lose them to make the other modes work.


I think the plane mode would be fine without the shield, and the truck mode MIGHT work. I could pretend he's just a tractor/trailer when I don't use the shield.



P.S: I had a really cool dream last night about all of the transformers I want. I imagined that I had a special cartridge for my game boy, similar to a super card, that I could put transformers toy data files in and when I turned the game boy on it would transform into that transformer until the power ran out and it turned back into a game boy. I played with Classics Prowl and Classics Sunstreaker as well as G1 prime. It was awesome!

Aoi. Thanks for answering the question! Now that I've seen Streaker on a few more angles, his natural mode does look a bit better than I thought. Can't wait to find him and wait for when Sideswipe comes out too.

Pics coming up, Yuyuyami. I'm snapping 'em now, and I'll edit them in. Though, I'll be honest now, you're not gonna want Tankor. His tanker mode looks awful without the shield.

Edit:


Btw, don't you hate dreams like that after y'wake up?




Welcome!

Anyhow, as these latest pics show, I really need to get my second desk up. That TRU thing in the first picture looks odd with it's Hannah Montana bit.

Hey I think the guns for smokestacks look cool!!! I'm doing that!

Or have I just been doing wrong by putting them on the back?

The plane mode is fine without the shield, and the truck mode is as I expected. And it gives me an idea for a tractor/trailer mod. I'm gonna pick this guy up.

I think I'll also lop off his propellers. They look like they'll snap off easily enough anyway and they screw with his truck mode rolling (though that one shoulder-wheel already does a good job of stopping it from what I see).

And if I just ditch the shield/tank/scissor blade thing I'll be able to lop off his double dork crotch, too.


I have plans for this figure, oh yes. I have plans.

Nope, I'm doing it wrong. I was just fidgeting with it and was like "hum..lessee how they look as smokestacks. ... I like!"

Look forwad to seeing your mod, Yuyuyami.

after seeing these, I think I"m going to go w/ Henkei instead...

^ I'm not going lie, this time around TAKTOM has Hasbro trumped in terms of paint apps. I just wish the chrome wasn't so absent mindedly attached. Some one previously stated that during G1 it made sense: chrome on bumpers, guns and robot thighs....now TAKTOM gives us chromed spoilers and random bits like knee caps ...

'Struth. The rockets on Astrotrain are just about the least likely things on him to be chromed. Plus the chrome's so bright compared to the usually matte paint on the classics.



It'll be a while, but I think know what I'm gonna use for his trailer. Would you mind telling me how wide he is in truck mode, how tall the plane pieces are(minus the tabs, those are coming off), and how tall the folded up chest piece is(I think it would be a perfect trailer hitch)?

WOW! I just tried out that alternative shoulder transformation and it seriously made me like this toy 100 times more! Thanks!!!

Definitely going to get Henkei Octane...

Sorry I didn't get back to y'on this sooner. In Plane mode, he's about 1.25 inches tall in the front. (bottom of wheels to top, sans tabs.) and 1.96 inches in the back, 1.2 inch width of the plane, (and the wings will add about 2.34 inches.)

In truck mode; He's 1.74 inches tall(from bottom of wheel, to top of truck.) and 1.66 inches from side to side in the front. These measurements don't include the accessories attached, though.

I'm not sure what y'mean by the folded up chest piece, though. If y'have any more questions, feel free to drop me a PM. I should be able to get back to y'sooner.

I only picked up Prowl, now I like this figure alot. Even though IMO he does have a mini alternator knockoff feel to him. The paint on his roof started to smudge off. Which really pissed me off that I had to paint part of it white again. I agree that he does seem dull due to paint apps. But that was fixed with some touch ups. One other gripe I had was his chest, the lines are noticeable for trasnformation on the bumper due to white plastic. But I fixed the crap quickly by popping that mid swivel chest part and painting the inside partially black. Now it more in uniform.

This is a great fig but it has quality issues, in which most of it is easily fixable. Just depends if you want to take the time to do so. Here is a pic how painted some parts.