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Hobbes-timus Prime
Eeeesh.
Prime-Collector
FIRE?

Try IMPRISON.
Glue
..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
Hobbes-timus Prime
QUOTE (Glue @ Jun 20 2008, 02:37 PM) *
..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..

What's funny, exactly?
Glue
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jun 20 2008, 02:41 PM) *
QUOTE (Glue @ Jun 20 2008, 02:37 PM) *
..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..

What's funny, exactly?

I dunno.. the audacity/insanity of the teacher. The school's reaction.. That whole situation, really and that such an unlikely thing should occur..
Prime-Collector
I wonder if we could have a "Dumbass" Brand Made...
Autobot032
...he... branded?

I can't even begin to understand what that feels like.

And this is why Christians get a bad rap. Just so the folks out there know, we're not all like this whackjob, not even close.

O_o...branded? WTF?!
Asthaloth
Why does "Accused" mean "GUILTY!!1!1!!!1" With teachers exactly?

Not just this of course, but everywhere.
The moment a kid says a word against a teacher, they're done.
Frankly, remembering my days at school, I'd be inclined to be on the side of the teacher, even discounting the "Innocent until proven guilty" aspect.
Buddykiller
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 02:39 PM) *
Why does "Accused" mean "GUILTY!!1!1!!!1" With teachers exactly?

Not just this of course, but everywhere.
The moment a kid says a word against a teacher, they're done.
Frankly, remembering my days at school, I'd be inclined to be on the side of the teacher, even discounting the "Innocent until proven guilty" aspect.


tbh, thats the society we live in. we do that quite a bit, and not just with teachers.

also, it's kinda hard to not feel the guy is guilty when a kid has a religious symbol burned into the flesh of his arm. >_>
Asthaloth
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Jun 21 2008, 08:18 PM) *
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 02:39 PM) *
Why does "Accused" mean "GUILTY!!1!1!!!1" With teachers exactly?

Not just this of course, but everywhere.
The moment a kid says a word against a teacher, they're done.
Frankly, remembering my days at school, I'd be inclined to be on the side of the teacher, even discounting the "Innocent until proven guilty" aspect.


tbh, thats the society we live in. we do that quite a bit, and not just with teachers.

also, it's kinda hard to not feel the guy is guilty when a kid has a religious symbol burned into the flesh of his arm. >_>



Prove it (And that it was the teacher that did it) then we can burn him. icon_wink.gif tounge1.gif

I mean hell, I've heard of girls getting pregnant and claiming their teacher did it just to get out of trouble! huffermad.gif

(That said, it MAY just have been an urban legend from the area, not exactly the easiest thing to prove)
Buddykiller
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 05:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Jun 21 2008, 08:18 PM) *
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 02:39 PM) *
Why does "Accused" mean "GUILTY!!1!1!!!1" With teachers exactly?

Not just this of course, but everywhere.
The moment a kid says a word against a teacher, they're done.
Frankly, remembering my days at school, I'd be inclined to be on the side of the teacher, even discounting the "Innocent until proven guilty" aspect.


tbh, thats the society we live in. we do that quite a bit, and not just with teachers.

also, it's kinda hard to not feel the guy is guilty when a kid has a religious symbol burned into the flesh of his arm. >_>



Prove it (And that it was the teacher that did it) then we can burn him. icon_wink.gif tounge1.gif

I mean hell, I've heard of girls getting pregnant and claiming their teacher did it just to get out of trouble! huffermad.gif

(That said, it MAY just have been an urban legend from the area, not exactly the easiest thing to prove)


theres a picture in the article, and the teacher admitted he did it. the teacher said it was just an x though and that he was demonstrating the machine to the students, but it's clearly a cross.
Glue
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 10:39 AM) *
Why does "Accused" mean "GUILTY!!1!1!!!1" With teachers exactly?

Not just this of course, but everywhere.
The moment a kid says a word against a teacher, they're done.
Frankly, remembering my days at school, I'd be inclined to be on the side of the teacher, even discounting the "Innocent until proven guilty" aspect.

Well..... because "guilt" is something that can only be proven in a court of law, and this is a school board (employer/supervisory entity) with a contract of some form with the teacher (employee). There are jobs out there where you can be fired without being guilty. And for the most part, teaching is a profession that must adhere to certain public standards.

Also, as BK pointed out, there is a cross.. burnt onto a student's arm...!


QUOTE (Glue @ Jun 20 2008, 02:47 PM) *
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jun 20 2008, 02:41 PM) *
QUOTE (Glue @ Jun 20 2008, 02:37 PM) *
..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..

What's funny, exactly?

I dunno.. the audacity/insanity of the teacher. The school's reaction.. That whole situation, really and that such an unlikely thing should occur..

Alright, I mean it's that the whole situation is so... absurd. How does something like this even manage to occur? If we consider the various possible spots that might've shaped this outcome here: the school board, their screening process, whatever churches this teacher went to, the family that raised him, at whatever point failure began to occur, how did it manage to propagate all the way into the classroom? (Those first two do not seem to be amiss in any way we know of, and we have no information on the latter two, but..) for the moment, this appears to be a random anomaly.

I don't think it's the job of churches to help screen for crazy people (because I don't mean to insinuate responsibility unless there actually is any -- and if there is, I don't think it's due to the religious aspect of the organizations). But when such individuals are brought to the public light, I am curious what churches and their leaders tell their followers, what they do within their own organizations, if anything, and what they tell or would tell the rest of us non-believers, aside from: (as Autobot032 said) "we're not all like this whackjob". Do churches and their leaders feel there is something more they can and should be doing?
Asthaloth
QUOTE (Glue @ Jun 21 2008, 10:42 PM) *
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 10:39 AM) *
Why does "Accused" mean "GUILTY!!1!1!!!1" With teachers exactly?

Not just this of course, but everywhere.
The moment a kid says a word against a teacher, they're done.
Frankly, remembering my days at school, I'd be inclined to be on the side of the teacher, even discounting the "Innocent until proven guilty" aspect.

Well..... because "guilt" is something that can only be proven in a court of law, and this is a school board (employer/supervisory entity) with a contract of some form with the teacher (employee). There are jobs out there where you can be fired without being guilty. And for the most part, teaching is a profession that must adhere to certain public standards.

Also, as BK pointed out, there is a cross.. burnt onto a student's arm...!




Yes, fair enough in this case the evidence is irrefutable.
I did, however, say "Not with this but everywhere".
Glue
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 04:18 PM) *
QUOTE (Glue @ Jun 21 2008, 10:42 PM) *
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jun 21 2008, 10:39 AM) *
Why does "Accused" mean "GUILTY!!1!1!!!1" With teachers exactly?

Not just this of course, but everywhere.
The moment a kid says a word against a teacher, they're done.
Frankly, remembering my days at school, I'd be inclined to be on the side of the teacher, even discounting the "Innocent until proven guilty" aspect.

Well..... because "guilt" is something that can only be proven in a court of law, and this is a school board (employer/supervisory entity) with a contract of some form with the teacher (employee). There are jobs out there where you can be fired without being guilty. And for the most part, teaching is a profession that must adhere to certain public standards.

Also, as BK pointed out, there is a cross.. burnt onto a student's arm...!


Yes, fair enough in this case the evidence is irrefutable.
I did, however, say "Not with this but everywhere".

Actually, you said "Not just this, but.." which is includes this incident. Now you said, "Not with this but.." which is excludes it. laughlol.gif And as the article stated, there's a long record of complaints against the teacher over 11 years, so he's been around in spite of many words against him. And still the school board told him he has the right to a hearing. In fact, the more I think about it, it sounds like the school board has been dragging their feet on this one for ages or giving him the benefit of the doubt all these years, given the amount of complaints from the teacher's own fellow teachers and school administrators of him teaching Creationism in a science class and keeping bibles around.

If it's really the case that a teacher is done when a kid says just a word against him, perhaps it's incidents like this that are why. I mean these guys had to wait until he assaulted and physically harmed a student.
sabor
i do'nt want to stray off topic here people but when it comes to the whole bit about a person being innocent until proven guilty i can't help but find some bit of irony in this matter when it comes to the teacher in question being made to experience for himself every single thing that a junior or senior high school student goes through when that person as the student / innocent victim has been robbed by the school staff of the chance to prove their innocence in the matter in question when it comes to the students side of the story as the matter pertains to their person

bully abuse and bullycide being a classic example of that abuse of power and authority

but that's another story all together

that's just my 2 cents people
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