Nomolos
May 28 2008, 04:23 AM
the statement.the biased commentary. this guy is anti Obama so watch out disciples.
Obama also commented during his memorial day speech on the unbroken line of fallen soldiers, many of whom were in the audience that day. seen any ghosts lately?
but i cant find that on youtube without the whole speech.
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 04:25 AM
It was Belsenberg. It still happened, no big deal.
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 04:31 AM
was it his grandpa or his uncle? was either in the war? well since he doesnt have an uncle i guess its a given that he's lying about that or that he's gotten his uncle confused with his great grandfather from the same story years ago.
but yea, no big deal , i get it.
what about the ghost?
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 04:41 AM
Stormtrooper53
May 28 2008, 05:48 AM
*Is afraid Nomolos is wasting his time because this joint is inhabited by a buncha Obama fanboys*
But yeah, the "Fallen soldiers, many whom are here today" was roffle.
And a month ago he said he had been to "fifty-seven states, with one left to go" (His campaign won't let him go to Alaska or Hawaii, he said.)
And in March when explaining his comment that his grandmother confessed a fear of black men she encountered on the street, said that while she did not harbor any racial animosity, she was a "typical white person" (his grandmother is white) who, because of her experiences, has a gut reaction to people who are different from her.
But Obama is teh Chosen One, so it's okay.
POTATOE'D!
and
STRATEGERY'D!
Hobbes-timus Prime
May 28 2008, 05:49 AM
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 04:31 AM)

well since he doesnt have an uncle i guess its a given that he's lying about that or that he's gotten his uncle confused with his great grandfather from the same story years ago.
The statements clarified. Both his Grandfather and Great-Uncles served in WWII.
There is a world of difference, FYI, between misspeaking about your personal family history and current events that will be directly impacted by you should you get the job you are applying for.
And the ghosts thing was obviously metaphorical.
SkyClonus
May 28 2008, 05:51 AM
FWIW, Obama's uncle was part of the unit that liberated Buchenwald...
EDIT: Beaten to the punch'd
Stormtrooper53
May 28 2008, 05:55 AM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ May 28 2008, 08:49 AM)

And the ghosts thing was obviously metaphorical.
Not that I really care or anything, but the exact quote was
QUOTE
On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today
And you and I both know that if John McCain had said this, we'd all be "ZOMG! John McCain sees dead people!

"
Hobbes-timus Prime
May 28 2008, 06:00 AM
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ May 28 2008, 05:55 AM)

QUOTE
On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today
And you and I both know that if John McCain had said this, we'd all be "ZOMG! John McCain sees dead people!

"
Well, now that is a stupid thing to say.
Oh, but you know what? Obama didn't vote for the war. All is forgiven.
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 06:04 AM
John McCain would never screw this stuff up b/c he was alive at the time
Stormtrooper53
May 28 2008, 06:10 AM
As opposed to Obama, who is so young that
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ May 28 2008, 09:00 AM)

Oh, but you know what? Obama didn't vote for the war. All is forgiven.
...because he wasn't born yet!
ahh...err...
...shoot!
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 06:24 AM
If I could say something that isn't mindlessly partisan real quick:
John McCain is probably the one Republican that I would want to see running for president this year. I still wouldn't vote for him, but at least he doesn't fill me with OMG NO dread like a bunch of other possible candidates would have.
okay, back to it
SkyClonus
May 28 2008, 06:32 AM
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 06:35 AM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ May 28 2008, 06:49 AM)

QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 04:31 AM)

well since he doesnt have an uncle i guess its a given that he's lying about that or that he's gotten his uncle confused with his great grandfather from the same story years ago.
The statements clarified. Both his Grandfather and Great-Uncles served in WWII.
There is a world of difference, FYI, between misspeaking about your personal family history and current events that will be directly impacted by you should you get the job you are applying for.
And the ghosts thing was obviously metaphorical.
easy hobbes, this isn't for the disciples to call blasphemy. this is for us infidels to laugh at.
*FTR my 3rd post would be relevant to current events and neither relative was with the soviets at auschwits*
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 06:46 AM
...it's gonna be a long summer
Stormtrooper53
May 28 2008, 06:52 AM
Obama: Vote for me because Republican elitists hate me!
McCain: Vote for me, I was the original Republican objet du hate!
Yeah, I could see how that'd get boring.
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 07:02 AM
I was referring more to the mind-numbing partisan shitcockery that envelops the country whenever there's a presidential election... Bush isn't up for re-election so my angst level is automatically decreased by 8000%.
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 07:06 AM
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ May 28 2008, 07:52 AM)

Obama: Vote for me because Republican elitists hate me!
McCain: Vote for me, I was the original Republican objet du hate!
Yeah, I could see how that'd get boring.
everybody knows lincoln was the original republican. :joke
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ May 28 2008, 08:02 AM)

I was referring more to the mind-numbing partisan shotcockery that envelops the country whenever there's a presidential election... Bush isn't up for re-election so my angst level is automatically decreased by 8000%.
I wish it wasn't either one of them. of course I also wish we would do away with the beauty paegent that we have now for presidential election years
Hobbes-timus Prime
May 28 2008, 07:12 AM
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 06:35 AM)

easy hobbes, this isn't for the disciples to call blasphemy. this is for us infidels to laugh at.
Do you have any idea how condescending you sound? While I'm currently rooting for Obama, I'm no disciple - I'm Republican, remember. But this election is really important to me, and if you want to discuss it, prepare to have the facts laid out on the table and have a real discussion. Much love to you, Nom, but if all you want to do is make "disciple/infidel" jokes instead of dealing with the real discussion, then start your threads in INH instead of The Political Arena.
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 06:35 AM)

*FTR my 3rd post would be relevant to current events and neither relative was with the soviets at auschwits*
FTR your third post was edited out of context nothing. Show me the full speeches and then let's discuss what was actually said in context.
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 07:42 AM
sorry didn't mean to sound mean just making a joke about the whole "messiah" thing that gets overused. its all meant to be in fun.
you forget that I take everything they all say with a grain of salt. I am more of a political satirist than a debater.
but if you have something from the speeches those clips are taken from that proves he isn't contradicting himself on Iran as a threat, by all means post away.
every thread in here has humor in it. without offense mostly. in INH someone would poop in the thread and that's no fun.
Hobbes-timus Prime
May 28 2008, 07:55 AM
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 07:42 AM)

but if you have something from the speeches those clips are taken from that proves he isn't contradicting himself on Iran as a threat, by all means post away.
I didn't say he wasn't contradicting himself. Obama's not above mistakes. But I'm certainly not gonna have the discussion about whether he did or did not contradict himself without access to something a little more substantial than some edited YouTube video. I'd offer the same courtesy to Hillary and McCain, FWIW - a lesson I learned when I judged Hillary's people too swiftly based on nothing but a YouTube video, and it turned out to be an out-of-context non-issue.
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 07:42 AM)

every thread in here has humor in it. without offense mostly.
Agreed. I just don't like humor as an excuse to dodge the actual discussion.
ROSEDOGGYDOG
May 28 2008, 08:07 AM
Let us not forget that Obama visited 57 states, be them Islamic or not.
SkyClonus
May 28 2008, 08:18 AM
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 08:20 AM
perhaps he meant 47
SkyClonus
May 28 2008, 08:26 AM
Or 57 primaries/caucuses?
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 08:29 AM
APPEASER!
SkyClonus
May 28 2008, 08:32 AM
*gives Obama the Sudetenland*
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 08:47 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ May 28 2008, 09:20 AM)

perhaps he meant 47
maybe, but then he said he had 2 left...
Stormtrooper53
May 28 2008, 08:50 AM
Said he had 1 left because "my staff won't let me go to Hawaii or Alaska."
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 08:51 AM
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 11:47 AM)

QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ May 28 2008, 09:20 AM)

perhaps he meant 47
maybe, but then he said he had 2 left...
Well be fair, Delaware isn't much of a state.
Cool Hand Lube
May 28 2008, 08:52 AM
I thought he said he had 3 left. And maybe dude's been travelling non-stop for 6 months and his brain's a little wonky. I give the same credit to McCain (and thanks Pete for putting words to my feeling of semi-okayness that McCain IS the GOP candidate this election), when he gets all old-guy cranky and "GET OFF MY LAWN!!!"'s a bunch of reporters before his enema and nap.
Hillary I give no credit to, as I now think she's kind of an idiot.
*poops in thread*
sertile
May 28 2008, 09:33 AM
Everyone makes mistakes. The difference is when Obama makes one people don't die.
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 09:35 AM
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 10:08 AM
QUOTE (sertile @ May 28 2008, 10:33 AM)

Everyone makes mistakes. The difference is when Obama makes one people don't die.
that'll change if he wins.
Sularias
May 28 2008, 10:10 AM
I am completely unaware of all political happenings over the last 5 days
WAT I MIS!
Glue
May 28 2008, 10:15 AM
Yeah.. since the first page quickly turned into stuff beside the point, I skipped reading the rest of the thread. Sorry.
I don't see anything that dire with misspeaking exactly which camp was freed by exactly which ancestor of yours from a story you heard from your youth.
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 10:16 AM
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 01:08 PM)

QUOTE (sertile @ May 28 2008, 10:33 AM)

Everyone makes mistakes. The difference is when Obama makes one people don't die.
that'll change if he wins.
Why even make retarded comments like this? If you don't like the options this year, then write in somebody else or do something constructive or whatever.
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 10:31 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ May 28 2008, 11:16 AM)

QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 01:08 PM)

QUOTE (sertile @ May 28 2008, 10:33 AM)

Everyone makes mistakes. The difference is when Obama makes one people don't die.
that'll change if he wins.
Why even make retarded comments like this? If you don't like the options this year, then write in somebody else or do something constructive or whatever.
whoever is in office has the same burden of knowing a mistake can cost lives. (not that this one would) but how is that retarded? or how is it more retarted than the comment I was answering?
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 10:47 AM
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 01:31 PM)

QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ May 28 2008, 11:16 AM)

QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 01:08 PM)

QUOTE (sertile @ May 28 2008, 10:33 AM)

Everyone makes mistakes. The difference is when Obama makes one people don't die.
that'll change if he wins.
Why even make retarded comments like this? If you don't like the options this year, then write in somebody else or do something constructive or whatever.
whoever is in office has the same burden of knowing a mistake can cost lives. (not that this one would) but how is that retarded? or how is it more retarted than the comment I was answering?
It's just perpetuating this point-scoring stupidity IMO... people complain that politics has become diminished by all the non-issues crap, but it gets perpetuated by us, so we have only ourselves to blame for the lack of an honest discussion about the issues.
Cool Hand Lube
May 28 2008, 10:54 AM
All I know is that I've had enuff of HOO-SANE.
ROSEDOGGYDOG
May 28 2008, 10:55 AM
I'd like Jesse "The Body" Ventura as President. However he did state the other day that he'd like to see an option for "None of the above" as he has no faith in any of the canidates.
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 10:57 AM
I started this as a tongue in cheek jab. true. in the same spirit as the older than mccain thread. I thought it could be a lighthearted volley between supporters and opposers in that vein.
Cool Hand Lube
May 28 2008, 11:00 AM
Dude, it's politics. One of (if not THE) the most polarizing topics anyone can ever mention. If you want light-hearted, take it to INH.
Nomolos
May 28 2008, 11:01 AM
we did well at joking on mccains age. and numerous other things.
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (Nomolos @ May 28 2008, 02:01 PM)

we did well at joking on mccains age. and numerous other things.
I think there's a difference between joking and trying to score political points.
Now, true, you could definitely look at the "Younger Than McCain" thing as exactly that, but to me his age is a non-issue. I don't care how old he is; nor do I think he's about to kick the bucket, if his mom is any indication.
Stormtrooper53
May 28 2008, 11:08 AM
McCain =/= Obama 'round these parts, podnuh.
Dude, I warned you in my first post.
Glue
May 28 2008, 11:11 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ May 28 2008, 10:47 AM)

It's just perpetuating this point-scoring stupidity IMO... people complain that politics has become diminished by all the non-issues crap, but it gets perpetuated by us, so we have only ourselves to blame for the lack of an honest discussion about the issues.
Like ducking sniper fire or shedding tears while out on campaign? 'Cause I'll tell ya that's really what's on MY mind for the past 8 years and up through to 2016..
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 11:14 AM
QUOTE (Glue @ May 28 2008, 02:11 PM)

QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ May 28 2008, 10:47 AM)

It's just perpetuating this point-scoring stupidity IMO... people complain that politics has become diminished by all the non-issues crap, but it gets perpetuated by us, so we have only ourselves to blame for the lack of an honest discussion about the issues.
Like ducking sniper fire or shedding tears while out on campaign? 'Cause I'll tell ya that's really what's on MY mind for the past 8 years and up through to 2016..
Hey, here's a thought -- maybe Clinton could not try to pad her resume with BS. Sorry, that's her fault.
As for the NH almost-crying thing, I don't think it was calculated at the time, but she certainly took notice when it worked to her advantage at the polls.
Hobbes-timus Prime
May 28 2008, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ May 28 2008, 12:08 PM)

McCain =/= Obama 'round these parts, podnuh.
Dude, I warned you in my first post.
What's with the fanboy labeling, anyway? Everyone in these discussions has a candidate they're behind who they'll defend. Why are Obama supporters labeled with negative connotations because of it?
Lord Madhammer
May 28 2008, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ May 28 2008, 02:16 PM)

QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ May 28 2008, 12:08 PM)

McCain =/= Obama 'round these parts, podnuh.
Dude, I warned you in my first post.
What's with the fanboy labeling, anyway? Everyone in these discussions has a candidate they're behind who they'll defend. Why are Obama supporters labeled with negative connotations because of it?
Because there are so many of them!!! and a candidate being successful means that he must be evil
which, ironically enough, is the same logic they use at churches where Obama is said to be the antichrist.
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