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Lord Madhammer
I think being a stoner would be cool if you were like, Willie Nelson or something. But as a father of four with a wife and a job and stuff, it doesn't mesh with the lifestyle so much.
Sularias
If Willie Nelson sits around stoned all the time... I bet his life is actually pretty boring.


and that attempt at a reggae album was uh... not his best work.
Lord Madhammer
I mean, he has an interesting life and gets to play music a lot and be old and stuff. I think you're allowed to start sucking after a while if you used to be awesome and stuff and you're still around. DYLAN'D
Sularias
and actually I think people over 70 should get free weed from the government... at that point go ahead get high, you were just gonna be sitting around anyway this way you can enjoy it and your bones wont hurt.
Lord Madhammer
it'd make nursing home food go down a lot better...
Sularias
exactly! get a dozen old folks a Philly blunt and a dvd of Matlock season 1 and they're happy all day.
Lord Madhammer
hell, that sounds good to me
slugpitcher
QUOTE (Sularias @ Apr 22 2008, 11:17 AM) *
and actually I think people over 70 should get free weed from the government... at that point go ahead get high, you were just gonna be sitting around anyway this way you can enjoy it and your bones wont hurt.


and all those exploding oxygen tanks would be fun to watch.... awesomeji1.gif
slugpitcher
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 18 2008, 12:29 PM) *
QUOTE (slugpitcher @ Apr 18 2008, 11:22 AM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 18 2008, 10:15 AM) *
QUOTE (FREEFALLL666 @ Apr 17 2008, 04:52 PM) *
Arsenic forinstance may be a natural substance but it has to be extracted. Plants even the toxic ones should be legal to grow and consume if you so chose.

I'm pretty sure that you can't just burn a marijuana plant and get high off it. There's always going to be some human involvement, and if that makes it "unnatural," then what are we? Space aliens? We're also part of nature, and that includes our brains.


sure you can.. haven't you seen the Break.com video of the news reporter who is standing beside a pile of marijauana plants and he/she can't even finish her report because she get high...

I'd have to call BS on that...


this may be the video... don't know because all video is blocked at work... but the discription sound right

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5412764577553534556
Lord Madhammer
yeah I'm calling faaaaake on that

one reason being that you don't just cut marijuana leaves and roll them in paper and smoke them...
Sularias
Well if you set the buds on fire they'll still release THC I mean sometimes I got some buds that were all sticky and not super dried out and frankly the fresher the more potent. Its the really dried out stuff that wasn't that great.

But that video seems like more of a comedy sketch to me.
Stormtrooper53
Didn't some study or something recently show that marijuana only needs to be heated (not burned) to release its feel-good magic?
Sularias
I wasn't able to find out about the required temperature but I did find this groovy gif of the molecular structure of THC and thats just cool.



Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Sularias @ Apr 22 2008, 02:43 PM) *
I wasn't able to find out about the required temperature but I did find this groovy gif of the molecular structure of THC and thats just cool.


optimuslaugh2.gif which I would be staring at for the next hour if that molecule were in my system


I was easy to please
Stormtrooper53
Found it
Vaporizer Provides Same Level of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Not that I'm encouraging this type of behavior AT ALL.
Sularias
Grandma will be thrilled.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Found it
Vaporizer Provides Same Level of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Not that I'm encouraging this type of behavior AT ALL.

*stuff pot in his kid's nebulizer*

WORK!! WHY WON'T YOU WORK!!!
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 22 2008, 02:58 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Found it
Vaporizer Provides Same Level of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Not that I'm encouraging this type of behavior AT ALL.

*stuff pot in his kid's nebulizer*

WORK!! WHY WON'T YOU WORK!!!

Well if it's that stuff you bought off me...

Dude, I TOLD you it was St. Augustine grass clippings.
Buddykiller
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Found it
Vaporizer Provides Same Level of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Not that I'm encouraging this type of behavior AT ALL.


it also makes your weed last longer >_>

QUOTE ("sully")
Well if you set the buds on fire they'll still release THC I mean sometimes I got some buds that were all sticky and not super dried out and frankly the fresher the more potent. Its the really dried out stuff that wasn't that great.


the only time my bud wasn't sticky was when it was just shake or when i bought dirt weed. stickiness is a sign of quality.
Sularias
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Apr 23 2008, 09:58 AM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Found it
Vaporizer Provides Same Level of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Not that I'm encouraging this type of behavior AT ALL.


it also makes your weed last longer >_>

QUOTE ("sully")
Well if you set the buds on fire they'll still release THC I mean sometimes I got some buds that were all sticky and not super dried out and frankly the fresher the more potent. Its the really dried out stuff that wasn't that great.


the only time my bud wasn't sticky was when it was just shake or when i bought dirt weed. stickiness is a sign of quality.


Well la di da some of us mostly got dirt weed or smoked other people's stuff. I WAS in college after all and I had to save my money for the rave parties.



Stormtrooper53
Hippies, the lot of you!












optimuslaugh2.gif
Sularias


Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Sularias @ Apr 23 2008, 09:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Apr 23 2008, 09:58 AM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Found it
Vaporizer Provides Same Level of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Not that I'm encouraging this type of behavior AT ALL.


it also makes your weed last longer >_>

QUOTE ("sully")
Well if you set the buds on fire they'll still release THC I mean sometimes I got some buds that were all sticky and not super dried out and frankly the fresher the more potent. Its the really dried out stuff that wasn't that great.


the only time my bud wasn't sticky was when it was just shake or when i bought dirt weed. stickiness is a sign of quality.


Well la di da some of us mostly got dirt weed or smoked other people's stuff. I WAS in college after all and I had to save my money for the rave parties.

optimuslaugh2.gif don't feel bad, I was in the same boat

I was also too ignorant to know the difference between good and bad weed
Stormtrooper53
ZOMG! Is everyone at TFans a farging pot-head except me??

*starts rumor*
Lord Madhammer
I was a pothead in highschool and college... since I am teh old, that was a long time ago
Stormtrooper53
Isn't it kind of like being a Marine, though?

Once a Marine, always a Marine.

Come on, admit it. You're thinking about that piney, smokey smell. Spraying Lysol to mask the scent. That slightly light headed feeling. Craving cold pizza. ALL OF YOU!

God, man, marijuana is a CRUTCH, man. *sips beer*

optimuslaugh2.gif
Buddykiller
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 23 2008, 09:38 AM) *
QUOTE (Sularias @ Apr 23 2008, 09:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Apr 23 2008, 09:58 AM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:48 PM) *
Found it
Vaporizer Provides Same Level of THC, Fewer Toxins, Study Shows

Not that I'm encouraging this type of behavior AT ALL.


it also makes your weed last longer >_>

QUOTE ("sully")
Well if you set the buds on fire they'll still release THC I mean sometimes I got some buds that were all sticky and not super dried out and frankly the fresher the more potent. Its the really dried out stuff that wasn't that great.


the only time my bud wasn't sticky was when it was just shake or when i bought dirt weed. stickiness is a sign of quality.


Well la di da some of us mostly got dirt weed or smoked other people's stuff. I WAS in college after all and I had to save my money for the rave parties.

optimuslaugh2.gif don't feel bad, I was in the same boat

I was also too ignorant to know the difference between good and bad weed


yea well i went head over heels for it in college. mom n dad was pretty good off back then and paid my rent and utilities, i didn't really have an income so i got foodstamps to pay for my food, and my grant overpaid my school by $700 a month >_> i once paid either $60 or $90 (can't remember) for a nug of blueberry which is the most expensive pot i've ever smoked.

i've also got a farged up mental thing too. when i start to get into something i do a ton of research on the subject and learn all i can possibly learn about it.

QUOTE ("Stormtrooper53")
ZOMG! Is everyone at TFans a farging pot-head except me??

*starts rumor*


ex-stoner here ^_^ the wife's got some crazy allergy to it or i'd probably still be a stoner.

QUOTE
Come on, admit it. You're thinking about that piney, smokey smell. Spraying Lysol to mask the scent. That slightly light headed feeling. Craving cold pizza. ALL OF YOU!


blech never liked cold pizza, then again when i was high i didn't care.... and farg you man damnit... i do that shot all the time. i'll hear a really good song with a trippy bassline or something and wish i was high >_>
Stormtrooper53
I am joking with all you "former" potheads, BTW. Actually one of my best friends in college was a weedie, and I used to hang out with him all the time (politely refusing his weed, but drinking the HELL out of that cheap-ass whiskey him and his daddy used to drink.) But then one day he beat his friend to death and his girl jumped out a window and he was sentenced to an insane asylum for the rest of his natural life...it was sad.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:20 AM) *
I am joking with all you "former" potheads, BTW. Actually one of my best friends in college was a weedie, and I used to hang out with him all the time (politely refusing his weed, but drinking the HELL out of that cheap-ass whiskey him and his daddy used to drink.) But then one day he beat his friend to death and his girl jumped out a window and he was sentenced to an insane asylum for the rest of his natural life...it was sad.

yeah, there's that 41% increased chance of psychosis..... it can be bad if you've got the DNA for it
Stormtrooper53
OMG! Totally REFEER MADNESS'D!
Sularias
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 23 2008, 11:13 AM) *
Isn't it kind of like being a Marine, though?

Once a Marine, always a Marine.

Come on, admit it. You're thinking about that piney, smokey smell. Spraying Lysol to mask the scent. That slightly light headed feeling. Craving cold pizza. ALL OF YOU!

God, man, marijuana is a CRUTCH, man. *sips beer*

optimuslaugh2.gif



Sounds like someone who knows a lot about.

I think we just found the bong pipe in your attic.
Buddykiller
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 23 2008, 11:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:20 AM) *
I am joking with all you "former" potheads, BTW. Actually one of my best friends in college was a weedie, and I used to hang out with him all the time (politely refusing his weed, but drinking the HELL out of that cheap-ass whiskey him and his daddy used to drink.) But then one day he beat his friend to death and his girl jumped out a window and he was sentenced to an insane asylum for the rest of his natural life...it was sad.

yeah, there's that 41% increased chance of psychosis..... it can be bad if you've got the DNA for it


hate to tell ya pete, but i've been clinically diagnosed with psychosis and all weed did was chill me out. i'm severely paranoid which keeps me up at night and on my bad days, inside the house. when i smoked, sure i was paranoid about being busted, but it chilled the paranoia to a much more less extreme level. low enough that i felt comfortable to drive while smoking a blunt or one hitter.
DarkNarcoleptic
I found a gatorade-bottle bong in a church parking lot before. I been around d00ds who've smoked joints once or twice. That's about the height of marijuana interaction I've had.



I do think having a marijuana plant would be cool, though
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Apr 23 2008, 02:08 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 23 2008, 11:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:20 AM) *
I am joking with all you "former" potheads, BTW. Actually one of my best friends in college was a weedie, and I used to hang out with him all the time (politely refusing his weed, but drinking the HELL out of that cheap-ass whiskey him and his daddy used to drink.) But then one day he beat his friend to death and his girl jumped out a window and he was sentenced to an insane asylum for the rest of his natural life...it was sad.

yeah, there's that 41% increased chance of psychosis..... it can be bad if you've got the DNA for it


hate to tell ya pete, but i've been clinically diagnosed with psychosis and all weed did was chill me out. i'm severely paranoid which keeps me up at night and on my bad days, inside the house. when i smoked, sure i was paranoid about being busted, but it chilled the paranoia to a much more less extreme level. low enough that i felt comfortable to drive while smoking a blunt or one hitter.

Buddykiller
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 23 2008, 04:06 PM) *
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Apr 23 2008, 02:08 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 23 2008, 11:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:20 AM) *
I am joking with all you "former" potheads, BTW. Actually one of my best friends in college was a weedie, and I used to hang out with him all the time (politely refusing his weed, but drinking the HELL out of that cheap-ass whiskey him and his daddy used to drink.) But then one day he beat his friend to death and his girl jumped out a window and he was sentenced to an insane asylum for the rest of his natural life...it was sad.

yeah, there's that 41% increased chance of psychosis..... it can be bad if you've got the DNA for it


hate to tell ya pete, but i've been clinically diagnosed with psychosis and all weed did was chill me out. i'm severely paranoid which keeps me up at night and on my bad days, inside the house. when i smoked, sure i was paranoid about being busted, but it chilled the paranoia to a much more less extreme level. low enough that i felt comfortable to drive while smoking a blunt or one hitter.




never heard of it tounge1.gif
Lord Madhammer
really funny movie, actually
Haggisjin
Marijuana can f*ck you up if you have a genetic predisposition towards Schizophrenia. Most of the people that I've seen on psych wards in public hospitals are Schizophrenic Potheads. It has some seriously severe consequences that people should know more about, but it usually gets swept aside because of all of the incorrect "REEFER MADNESS" style propaganda you see out there.



Although that's not saying that smoking some weed will automatically make you a schizophrenic or anything.
Sularias
YES IT WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!




well not really




SHUT UP YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you need help


NO I DON'T AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE POT WE USED TO SMOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

you smoked it all



Oh...
DarkNarcoleptic
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Apr 24 2008, 12:05 AM) *
Although smoking some weed will automatically make you a schizophrenic.

I'm sorry, this is all I heard.
Sularias
Sig Quote Pwned optimuslaugh2.gif
DarkNarcoleptic
I'm going to quote Haggisjin for that on Wikipedia and Fox News now. thumbsup1.gif
I.S.T.
rofl.gif rofl.gif
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Sularias @ Apr 24 2008, 07:57 AM) *
YES IT WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!




well not really




SHUT UP YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you need help


NO I DON'T AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE POT WE USED TO SMOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

you smoked it all



Oh...

Schizophrenia =/= Multiple Personality Disorder
Sularias
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 24 2008, 10:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Sularias @ Apr 24 2008, 07:57 AM) *
YES IT WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


well not really
SHUT UP YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you need help
NO I DON'T AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE POT WE USED TO SMOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!
you smoked it all
Oh...

Schizophrenia =/= Multiple Personality Disorder



just for that you get a lemon for dinner.



Buddykiller
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Apr 24 2008, 12:05 AM) *
Marijuana can f*ck you up if you have a genetic predisposition towards Schizophrenia. Most of the people that I've seen on psych wards in public hospitals are Schizophrenic Potheads. It has some seriously severe consequences that people should know more about, but it usually gets swept aside because of all of the incorrect "REEFER MADNESS" style propaganda you see out there.



Although that's not saying that smoking some weed will automatically make you a schizophrenic or anything.


sorry man, i respect you but i just can't believe that without some proof sooooooo i'm respectfully asking for sources. the only time i've ever heard of schizophrenic behavior brought on from being high is when they've mixed other drugs with them.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Apr 24 2008, 10:40 AM) *
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Apr 24 2008, 12:05 AM) *
Marijuana can f*ck you up if you have a genetic predisposition towards Schizophrenia. Most of the people that I've seen on psych wards in public hospitals are Schizophrenic Potheads. It has some seriously severe consequences that people should know more about, but it usually gets swept aside because of all of the incorrect "REEFER MADNESS" style propaganda you see out there.



Although that's not saying that smoking some weed will automatically make you a schizophrenic or anything.


sorry man, i respect you but i just can't believe that without some proof sooooooo i'm respectfully asking for sources. the only time i've ever heard of schizophrenic behavior brought on from being high is when they've mixed other drugs with them.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/41/3/23

Again, the statement is not that smoking pot will make you turn crazy, but that it creates a significantly increased risk among those genetically predisposed towards psychosis.
DarkNarcoleptic
In other words, it makes crazy people crazy. :strawman
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Apr 24 2008, 11:22 AM) *
In other words, it makes crazy people crazy. :strawman

I suppose I shouldn't have assumed that everyone has a basic knowledge of psychology. Most mental illnesses are believed to be caused by a combination of genetic predisposition and environmental triggers. The concern is that marijuana may act as that environmental trigger, for people with the genetic predisposition.
Buddykiller
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Apr 24 2008, 12:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Apr 24 2008, 10:40 AM) *
QUOTE (Haggisjin @ Apr 24 2008, 12:05 AM) *
Marijuana can f*ck you up if you have a genetic predisposition towards Schizophrenia. Most of the people that I've seen on psych wards in public hospitals are Schizophrenic Potheads. It has some seriously severe consequences that people should know more about, but it usually gets swept aside because of all of the incorrect "REEFER MADNESS" style propaganda you see out there.



Although that's not saying that smoking some weed will automatically make you a schizophrenic or anything.


sorry man, i respect you but i just can't believe that without some proof sooooooo i'm respectfully asking for sources. the only time i've ever heard of schizophrenic behavior brought on from being high is when they've mixed other drugs with them.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/41/3/23

Again, the statement is not that smoking pot will make you turn crazy, but that it creates a significantly increased risk among those genetically predisposed towards psychosis.


by genetically predisposed, do you mean a family history of, in other words, hereditary? if so...

QUOTE
Our study does not show that marijuana is a risk factor for young people with a family history of schizophrenia.


otherwise it's pretty damned interesting as i was already suffering from psychosis and the marijuana calmed it down. meh, perhaps it's something similar to the effects of ritalin....

however, this particular study doesn't seem very sure of it's self given the way it was conducted. even the article states

QUOTE
The results do not prove that marijuana is causally linked with schizophrenia, the researchers stated; owing to the study design, it was not possible to control for potentially confounding factors such as hereditary predisposition, socioeconomic status, or other kinds of drug use.


which leads me to wonder how they cam to the conclusion that the marijuana was linked at all, let alone to be a major contributing factor. i couldn't find anything about Mikkel Arendt, the main dr mentioned in the article, however one commenter Eric Strain, belongs to the FDA, whom everybody knows has an agenda against marijuana. however, strain's statement in the study seemed as a quasi-positive one (essentialy the same as the study's conclusion), but i'd like to see what else he said that they didn't quote, as said statement seems like just a small part of what the man had to say.

following the link at the bottom of the page, it seems that the only thing the study concludes is that the subject needs further looking into, and that marijuana might help in diagnosing the depth of the patients psychosis.
Sularias
When I was smoking pot I commanded a small army of ghost squirrels. (all killed by republicans in SUVs) In fact I used them to rig the 1996 election so Bill Clinton Won.
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