Hmmm,

While a TF fan, I just don't like this show. And before I get dismissed as a G1 elitist, I have to say I liked Beast wars (but not beast machines), I like Galaxy force, and lord help me I liked some of Super Link, but this cartoon (TF animated) just doesn't do it for me. I guess I've felt there is so much wrong that I can't put my finger on just one thing that would turn the show around and make me like it. At this point I've seen like 4 episodes and if its on, and I have nothing better to do, I *might* watch it. But I'd rather watch re-runs of "Cops" on Court TV if given a choice, and I'm not that much a fan of Cops.

But could someone who likes it tell me what they like about it? What is the appeal? Is it just a newer generation that finds it more appealing or does someone a little order find themselves compelled to watch it as well? What is that is appealing to some folks?

*is 35*

I like it for the intelligence of the writing, the character design, plot, humor, and how they update G1 characters to be what I always felt they should be (Megatron a real threat, Starscream backstabbing *and* effective, Prime with some personality at all, Ratchet actually having a reason to be old and grumpy, etc etc etc). It is an ongoing story and it's really best to watch it from the beginning if at all possible.

P.S. welcome

Yeah, same as Pete - how come you don't? Honest question...

A couple of reasons for me:

1) For the first time, the Cons are a real and genuine threat. The Autobots have to fight smarter to win - or at least survive. It makes the conflicts more interesting. Megatron in particular is terrifically evil with the way he's been able to manipulate everyone as just a head.

2) The human cast doesn't suck. Sari, Sumdac and Fanzone have distinct and unique characters, and the things they do are vital to the story.

3) Lockdown. 'Nuff said.

4) The sense of how layered this world is - from the Great War references to the structure of the Autobot Academy, there is so much more to this story than we're seeing, which makes everything feel more real.

5) Strong continuity - not just between episodes but between toy and show: Lockdown's EMP weapon fits on Ratchet's arm! That's attention to detail that reinforces the idea that this world has been laid out with great care and that what happens in the show will matter - and not be ignored by Hasbro. As a collector, that's very exciting.

6) G1 references on top of G1 references.

7) The art style rules. Sorry, but it does.

Definitely a matter of taste, but I agree a zillion percent. The fluid character look takes the fanboy edge off the show on a visual level. IMO anyway.

My answer had less but I agree with you, 100%


In more serious things, I would like to mention my liking of the complimentary human bad guys, like Meltdown. They add something to the show (I feel). Something that is wrong with shows like Smallville (early episodes) - only one type of villain. At least this gets 2-3: Decepticons/Bounty Hunters (), Humans and weird freak things (like the Nanobot and the Space Plankton). Keeps things different and interesting in villain terms.

Also, I would like to mention:
I freaking love the Decepticon base. HOMAGE! Going into hiding for a definite reason - do they even know the Elite Guard have arrived?

Plus Optimus and Prowl will look awesome standing next to my Animated Justice League Superman and Batman toys.



*hopes my Teen Titans Robin will fit on Prowl's motorcycle mode*

I Don't think its a newer generation at all..at least not on this website. I'm 33.

And why do I like it? Well, its inteligently written (at least by cartoon standards). It sufficiantly tugs at my nostalgia for G1. Many of the other things everyone has mentioned is true, for me, as well (Decepticons a threat. Megatron fearsome, etc.

The show is much better written than G1 (though I will always love G1 more, for nostalgic reasons). I've been rewatching the entire G1 series over the past month. I'm about halfway through season 2 and I can tell you that probably the most annoying (and alltogether stupid in comparison to Animated) thing that G1 did is simply introduce new Transformers with no reason given. Whether it was Blaster, Seaspray, Warpath, Tracks, Powerglide, Cosmos or whoever. All throughout season 2 new Transformers just show up in the ranks, with no explanation for their arrival, no introduction and no real reason for their being there. It makes absolutely no sense, from the perspective of them being crash landed on a strange planet.

So far, Animated has given us backstory for their new arrivals, like Lockdown, some creation stories, like Soundwave & Black Arachnia, reasons for their being there and actual arrival stories, like the Elite Autbot Guard, Blitzwing & Lugnut.

Its funny because you say you aren't a G1 snob...I AM a G1 snob, and I liked this. I hated Beast Wars...wouldn't watch it. I would not watch any other incarnation of Transformers, after G1 ended, until now.

My hate for every other incarnation of Transformers prevented me from even seeing the 2007 Transformers movie until just about a month ago. I just refused to go see it. Ironically, it was Transformers Animated that finally allowed me to give myself the OK to see the new movie. It was the proof I needed that I could like some version of Transofmers other than G1.

the ONLY real problem i have so far, is the lame human super villians. i realize humans needed to be the villians while the Cons gathered their strength...but c'mon, a Green Arrow knock off and a little girl riding a pink unicorn robot?!?!?! UGHHHH. other than that, i agree with you quite a bit. i just want them to leave the lame supervillians out of it if they don't have any good ideas. so far, Meltdown and his lacky and that super fast guy i can't remember the name of are the only two i don't mind.

Ok, I see there are lots of fans of the show, but I've seen the beginning. I have every episode downloaded, but mostly because I collect all TF shows whether I liked them or not (BW Neo??) and I've seen about four episodes, the first 2, another one at some random time, and the last one that just aired Elite guard I believe. But I'm just not feeling it. I guess one thing that through me for a loop was Prime being an elite guard washout? Or the fact that everyone but his team seems to look down on him as failing to live up to a basic potential? Most incarnations of Optimus Primes has him respected by almost all, whether they be the bad guys or the good guys. But this Prime seems to have always prove to himself.

I got over the fact that Prime's not the Supreme leader of the Autobots (Like in BW where he was just a simple ships captain) but this version, I dunno. Everyone seems to see him, at first, as the leader of a team of rejects. Prowl (I just won't go into what my problem is with him. too many here like him). I did like Bumblebee's character, but thats really all.

And I always thought Starscream was a backstabber in G1. Well in the first 2 seasons. He couldn't wait it say "Megatrons unable to fight, I'm the new leader" ever chance he got and the movie even had him throw the injured Megatron from the train. But this version just seems creepy to me. The version in Galaxy force even went head to head with old Meg's, but this one..........

I dunno, I guess I'm just going to chalk it up to taste. Mine are different than others, and I'll just have to keep taping them to file away in my library, but I doubt I guess my intrest will ever grow. I was just curious if there was something I was missing.

Thanks for the heads up though folks

I think its statements like these that have made many in this thread believe you haven't seen enough of Animated.

Well if he doesn't care for it, that's his prerogative.

This Starscream is actually effective though. In the G1 show he would come up with some plan to overthrow Megatron, then chicken out at the last moment or get his ass handed to him by Megs. Whenever Megs seemed injured Starscream would proclaim himself new leader only to once again have Megs PWN him.

Animated Starscream has the same ambitions as his G1 namesake, but he's much more effective in carrying out his plans. He doesn't openly defy Megatron, he fakes loyalty and decides to strike when the opportunity presents himself. If he openly defied Megs like his G1 namesake, well frankly he wouldn't last to long. Animated Starscream is so effective at what he does that by all accounts he would still be Megatron's #2 is Megs hadn't seen that recording of Starscream admitting he planted the bomb on him from the beginning of Home is Where the Spark Is.

Yeah, the Animated Starscream is simply more believable.

Again, I'm a G1-whore, and I absolutely love G1 Starscream, but lets be honest about him. He wasn't at all realistic.

What concievable rationale could there be for Megatron keeping someone around (and as second in command), who openly defies him at every opportunity, has zero respect from his peers, and takes every chance to undermind him, to the point of open attack on multiple occassions.

Actually, G1 Starscream was hardly a backstabber at all. More ofthen than not he wasn't doing things behind Megatron's back. He would just tell Megatron, "Hey, I'm going to destroy you and take over", and then fail to produce.

He's a great character and was my first Transformer, but in hindsight he might be the least believable.

isn't this the same post from "the elite guard" thread?

Oh well. Doesn't make me like it any less. To each their own.

Split thread'd!

i dont understand why someone doesnt like something, cannot be convinced to like it, but askes why everyone else likes it

It's either justification or someone trying to spark (healthy) debate. I can certainly see where the show wouldn't appeal to everyone. However, I agree fully that the plots and characters on Animated beat anything from R/A/E/C by a landslide.

And yes, I do believe this thread was splintered off...

I neither hate nor like this show.

Problems I have with this show include:

1. It fails to sufficiently engage me as an adult. I was an adult when Beast Wars and Beast Machines came out and both those shows engaged me as an adult (especially Beast Machines, which was really too adult and that worked against the show). Many of these 'characters' aren't really characters, but are more like caricatures. I hated how Bulkhead was portrayed as the clumsy brute for sooo long and he's now being portrayed in a kinder light, but for no apparent reason (it seems more because writers just have decided to stop including his clumsiness into it). My god, he was like a really strong and big version of Jar Jar Binks. Prowl got some interesting character development in Episode 2, which was nice - but then the character stagnated. (-_-) The Dinobots really suck - they're supremely savage fcuktards who've received no development at all. Bumblebee was really annoying for a long time, then he got some character development later on when Prowl taught him the virtue of patience, but then later on he seemed to abandon that teaching (which kinda undoes the prior development - buh?!). Ratchet hasn't had much development and neither has Prime until "Megatron Rising Part 2" and the Elite Guard ep - so Prime now has the potential to become an interesting character, but why did I have to wait so long?! This was the problem we had with Beast Machines Silverbolt - his pivotal character development came waaaay too late (even his voice actor Scott McNeil spoke about this). And the Decepticons have had NO character development whatsoever - they're all caricatures! The only Decepticon that has character potential atm is Blackarachnia.

2. Lame-arse human villains.


3. The art style boils down to a matter of taste, but I find the animation to be rather ordinary by contemporary standards. The G1 animation was, for its day, pretty decent. I'm not finding that with Animated - and in some cases, the animation is just lazy, particularly with the transformations! The Elite Guard episode did see some much more improved transformation animation, which reminds me of G1 (i.e.: you actually see them shifting between modes) - but again, why did I have to wait this long to see it?! G1 was doing this since the beginning!


Cos Professor Princess and the Headmasters are "teh bomb." :/


...relatively shallow G1 references IMO... although, considering that TFA is a different universe from G1, it can't really get into deeper G1 references unlike say Beast Wars, which deeply anchored itself into G1 and G2 continuity. That's not to say that I don't enjoy the G1 references in TFA but they're really just Easter Eggs rather than being woven into the fabric of its universe as it was with BW and BM.

Blackarachnia has some visual reference to TM2 Blackarachnia and is in nature, like BM Blackarachnia (because she is technorganic) - which is neat. I'd like to see some Easter Egg references to other TF series too like G2, CR/RiD, A/E/C etc.

this show is awsomeeee

Yeah, cause they made my list. I'm not asking you to like Animated, or it's human villains, but you can't deny that the humans with the most screentime are distinct and vital characters, unlike, say Spike and Sparkplug who didn't impact the story any deeper than "Ah, I'm in danger, save me!" or "Hey, I built a robot body. And now my son is stuck in it. What a one episode dilemma no one will remember next week!"


It's not a "reference" if it's in continuity, IMO, it's just story at that point.

Well, I don't care if you like or hate the show, but I really just don't understand this concept.

I was an adult when BW/BM came out too and I felt both of those shows were the epitomy of "kiddie shows", and on par with things were aimed at my toddler nephew at the time.

Again, just a matter of opinion. I just find it funny that so many people can see something one way and others, see it completely different.

So, just going by the 2 examples you give (Prime & Starscream), you basically don't like Animated because some of the characters you remember from past TF series are being portrayed differently than how you remember them? For it to be a good show Optimus has to be the great and respectable leader? For it to be a good show Starscream has to be the backstabber who can stand toe to toe with Megatron? I'm surprised you even like Bumblebee because he is far from being much like G1 Bumblebee. I think that if you let go of your preconceptions of what each characters personality "need to be like" then perhaps you may enjoy the show more. Like alot have already said, the writing is intelligent and the interaction between the characters is very witty and many times humorous. BTW I'm 33 and grew up a hardcore G1 fan.

Actually, most of the TFA Transformers are significant departures from their G1 namesakes. The only one that I would say is the most similar is Starscream, who is more similar to G1 (and G2) toy and comic Starscream than G1 cartoon Starscream. Like G1/G2 toy/comic Starscream, TFA Starscream operates with more guile and stealth whereas G1 cartoon Starscream was far more open and direct with his treachery.

But other than cosmetic visual and occupational similarities, the TFA Transformers are really very different characters from their G1 counterparts.

Not my review, but I thought I'd share it here.

First of all, it's not a review. The series hadn't even aired when he made that.

Second of all, I lost all interest in what this a$$ hat had to say when he called The Batman "The Crapman."
"The Crapman?" Really? That just screams angry closed minded fanboy. Anyone who calls a series theydon't like by some demeaning variation of the actual name thinks they're being clever. They're not. They're just making themselves look foolish. I admit, I much prefer the original Batman The Animated Series over The Batman, but come one dude.

Thirdly, he says the lifeblood of the Transformers franchise is the old school G1 fanbase. WRONG!
We make up, at the most, 20% of the TF fan base. They could make a series that totally alienates every single fan over the age of 15 and they'd still have a major cash cow if they draw in their key fan base, the kids. And in the end, that's who the franchise is for.

What's wrong with David Kaye? He rules. I think he's done a fantastic job with Prime.

*EDIT* And Bob Skir was the head writer for BM, not Marty Isenberg.
Isenberg's redeemed himself from his work on BM, and some, with Animated.
But then what's a little smudging of the facts if it makes for a better rant?

Again, this "review" was made by a rambling closed minded fanboy who is obviously unable to accept anything new. The "review" doesn't even actually review the series, as it was apparently made before the first episode aired.

Nothing worth watching, unless you like armpit smell* in visual and audio form.

*Pays royalties to LM

It's fun. It's full-out indulgence in what makes TF great, that is, the characters. Prime's character actually has to develop, rather than stick a macguffin in his chest, Bulkhead is misunderstood, Prowl looks out for his teammates even when they irk him, Ratchet is a crotchety old wanker with a heart of gold, and Bumblebee is well, Bumblebee I suppose. The decepticons, for the first time in half a decade, are awesome characters too, Blitzving is ze awesome, Starscream is actually a smart, deceptive backstabber, and Megs can be subtle one moment then full-out badass the next. And Sari goes down in the human sidekick hall of fame for actually being useful and probably having a higher IQ than every A/E/C human put together. At the age of 8. And no, I'm not implying she's a genius.
I will also out myself as a supervillans fan. PP is a nice dig at the "evil war toys" folks, and methinks Angry Archer is most full of the win.

The phrase "There but for the grace of God" distinctly comes to mind.

When I first saw the promo pic for Animated, I was like WTF!!! Definitely not my cup o' tea in the art department. Since I'm not a closed minded fool or a fan of stagnation, I decided to give it half a chance (I am a pessimist after all .) I'm glad I did. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Animated has the best writing and plot development of any TF series so far, IMO. Not since the mid-eighties, have I looked forward to watching a Saturday morning cartoon. While some would say that the characterization has been drawn from the all too familiar archetypes and the writing has been simplified and aimed more toward children (crazy, a cartoon for kids, what were they thinking,) the show does a good job at entertaining all us "adults" (and I use the term lightly) by poking fun at the fandom and paying tribute to some of the previous incarnations of the TFs. On the same token, the simplistic writing seems to match the simple art style as well. I couldn't imagine a hand-drawn G1 style or 3D CGI art direction working very well with Animated's writing style or voice work. They are a very good match. What I enjoy most about the series so far are the plot lines and the wonder of not knowing what will happen next. Just when you think you've got things figured out, the writers shake things up a bit and turn everything upside down. Plain and simple, Animated is fun. Remember when toons were fun? I'm not saying that everyone should fall in love with this series. I just think if more of the naysayers would give the series a chance and watch more than a few random episodes, they might be surprised. It really is that good.

The show has really grown on me. Still, I could do without the supervillans. I hope they phase those fools out next year.

David Kaye's Prime voice doesn't overwhelming impress me, but I don't dislike it either. Of course, it's hard to beat his awesomesauce BW/BM Megatron voice... yesss.


Bob Skir was the editor, Marty Isenberg was a writer on BM. He was also a writer for some eps in the G1 cartoon - which is something this reviewer conveniently failed to mention.

Btw, I think it's unfair (and unnecessarily unkind) for anyone to be throwing personal insults at this person even if you strongly disagree with what he's saying. Feel free to tear his arguments apart, but I would refrain from flaming him - especially when he's not even here to defend himself. There is the option to address him directly via PM or leaving a comment on his video for those who have a YouTube account.

WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE INVITE THIS DOUCHEBAG TO TFORMERS SO I CAN FLAME HIM IN PERSON!!!


first off, I am really tired every cocksucker with a camcorder making youtube videos, learn to write a script and have stage presence please

second of all, there were so many non sequiturs in his argument he ALMOST made sense.

and third, Goki, you picked the worst fucking example humanly possible to prove your point

I hesitantly watched the first 3 episodes of the series recently when i found some time and...its quality of writing (by mainstream cartoon series standards) is enough that it kept my interest *despite* my cringing at the art style. I simply do not like the "lazy animated" look. Had this show been drawn in the vein of any other TF series i would rank this much higher so far. THis show makes me feel similar to how i felt when reading IDW's " Spotlight: KUP " which is to say not all that good lol.

As others have mentioned..Starscream is impressive as a character thus far (other than circling his captives in jet mode. I found that...odd).

Bottom Line: Its good enough to continue watching when time permits thus far.

Erm... that's not my video/review. That person's opinions do not necessarily represent my own.

I actually neither love nor hate this show - there are parts that I like and dislike about it which I've discussed in this and other threads.

But yeah, I was just merely sharing one fan's opinion for the negative, and that's all it is, his opinions.

Suntzu28: I agree with you that the animation is pretty lazy in a lot of areas - especially transformations. Although it improved in the Elite Guard episode.

I came to this show more or less with luke warm respects.. I have grown extremely tired of the Japanese mishmash they've been throwing out for the longest time, it just does not engage me at all. For instance, as being an animation major in college, watching stupid ass cartoons and enjoying it to a lesser extent comes with the territory. IE, I openly enjoy Spongebob, Fairly Odd Parents.. etc etc.. I was not watching this show to get really anything out of it, other than some good, old fashioned, home grown transformers fun.. like Beast Wars turned out to be.

There are several things that have impressed me with this show.. several things I'm meh about. I'm meh about the weirdo human villians.. Meltdown, for example.. oozing chemical man, not so hot on. I liked characters like the police chief guy (I forget his name) and I'm glad he's been included on some Autobot outings. I do like the fact that the human characters, the ones connected with the autobots aren't these snot nosed wise ass kids that treat the autobots like pokemon. "Hot Shot, powerlink with jolt and defeat that creep!!" Sure kid, whatever.. you have no idea what you're talking about. The only character that kind of comes close to that is Sari.. but the drastic difference in that is that except for Bumblebee and Bulkhead.. the other autobots kind of shrug her off.. even so, she's still a redeeming character, in a way.. it seems like she's learning and evolving as time goes on. The art style is a bit different, I'll give it that.. but no different really than Justice League. It takes some time to get used to not having super detailed character models and what not. All of the decepticons are awesome too.. from what little I've seen of them -unfortunitly- I've really enjoyed watching them shoot up some autobots. -The only one I'm kinda meh about would be Black Aracnia.. which is surprizing being Beast Wars still is my favorite TF show like ever-

It is a lil funny for me to watch the show and hear Starscream as Evil Spongebob.. and then have Patrick as Bulkhead.. Wilt as Jazz.. it's just strange. But other than that, I'd GLADLY take this show over the 4 years of japanese garbage.

I think that's an important thing to note. It's not necessarily that Animated is a great show (even though it is), it's that Animated ISN'T the crock of total sh*t we've been fed twenty years (apart from BW and BM).

Okay, and maybe tiny parts of RID ( Skybite )

The English dubbing of the recent Japanese shows also really trashes them. I'm not saying that they're fantastic works in their original forms, but from what I've seen of the dubs, it really wrecks it.

I saw all of Car Robot long before RiD came out. I like Car Robot - for what the show is meant to be, it's good. Then I saw RiD and I thought the dub ruined CR. I've seen both Micron Legend and Armada in its entirety... Micron Legend is a lot better than Armada. After that I decided not to watch any more of the TF dubs so I've never seen Energon or Cybertron, but I have seen Super Link and Galaxy Force. Super Link is alright with some pretty good memorable moments. Galaxy Force was pretty ordinary though.

But yeah, overall the "Unicron Trilogy" cartoons were never anything exceptional. So saying that TFA is good just because it's better than Armadaverse really isn't saying much. Anything can be good if you have lower standards.

P.S.: I'm not necessarily saying that TFA is crap, but comparing it with shows that are generally considered to be really crap just isn't saying much.

Then why does it constantly appear that you're defending them against it?

I'm not - as I've repeatedly said, there are parts of this show that I like and dislike. And I've illustrated which parts that I like and dislike. As I've said before - so far, I neither like nor hate this show. It's just very... meh.

If I may....

I also was a bit worried when I saw the first promotional images for TF:A. They looked odd to me. But more than often I find if I give something a chance, I might be surprised to find I liked it after all. Though I still had confidence TF:A would be good.

I saw "Transform and Roll Out" and loved every minute of it. I was amazed at how good of a Starscream Tom Kenny could do. On that note, his more sinister behind-the-scenes style treachery is great. add that to his already kickass design and you have, what I believe to be, the best Starscream ever.

The fact that the decepticons are so powerful and such a huge threat also was something I loved about the show. Not to mention that they're all such likeable characters (IMO). I LOVE Blitzwing for instance. His 3 faces and the fact that he's both badass and hilarious at once are just great to me.

And you have the humans. I'll be honest. When I first saw Sari, I thought she would be annother annoying kid like the Armada pests or the Cybertron idiots (I actually didn't mind Kicker though.). But I was pleasantly surprised to see that she was actually an interesting and good character. As well as the police chief and prof Sumdac. Meltdown also was cool to me. The headmaster was ok though he's one of those villains I can't wait to see the defeat of. However, I couldn't stand that little girl at all. How she can ride a pink flying horse I'll never know, but the whole concept seemed ridiculous. I'm glad she got beaten quickly.

Hey I even liked the Dinobots and I never liked the Dinobots after I saw TFTM!

But indeed this show is a hit or a miss for many people. So it probably just isn't your thing. At least Hasbro understands some may not like the style and hence we're getting some more classics toys.

I will grudgingly admit that slowly on I've come to like this show.

I still really (and I mean R - E - A - L - L - Y ) hate the animation style and the way how the TF look because of it.

The writing is however pretty good. Most of the main human characters are very good and believable, with Fanzone my absolute favourite (I can really understand why he hates machines and he often brings good points forward) followed closely by Sumdac. Was great to see how Sumdac was fooled by Megatron and because of his own intelligence completely was blind to certain obvious facts, which was very believable.

Sari...not so positive about her. Although she's not as annoying as the Armadaverse kids, I do regularly find her presence to be unnecessary or plain annoying. Especially when she's the one coming up with solution. But the worst thing about her is that bloody key. I was completely dumbfounded when Optimus sacrificed his life to keep the Allspark from Starscream. That was amazing. With such a start, this series would be awesome...and then Sari plugged in her key and Prime was alive again. Very, VERY weak !!! Eversince, whenever she's using her key on an Autobot I'm basically p!$$3d off. I find it to be a cheap solution. I though Ratchet was the medic ?!?

The Decepticons in this show are really badass. Megatron alone can single-handedly defeat the Autbots and the same goes for Starscream. Lugnutz and Blitzwing joined can do the same. They're really a big threat and they have great characterization to boot.

The Autobots are also great in that they're basically misfits (the series is on this the complete opposite from BW where the Predacons were the incompetent misfits and the Maximals combat capable) and their disagreeing with one and other is great. The whole Cybertronium/Autobot society part is also very good. We've missed that in all other shows (the G1 comics did a little bit and BW made some references), but this is the first time it really features, while it was also very much needed in the Armadaverse. Really like that.


Of course, they are flaws. Some minor continuity errors and most seriously, the irritating human opponents. And especially, that the Autobots have to struggle to overcome those. How come Bulkhead can defeat Lugnutz, a powerful Decepticon, but get his @$$ handed to him by a little girl on a robotic pink pony???

These are also the eps that I don't like. As long as it's Decepticon problems or developments, the show is good, but too many eps have been made about human opponents.

Also noticed another thing that I'm not too thrilled about. The Decepticons are heavily armed, but so far we haven't seen a single Autobot who carries a gun. Not even the members of the Elite guard.

But I still R - E - A - L - L - Y hate the animation style


All in all it's a pretty good show, but I still think Beastwars is better. Not just because the look of BW which I like a whole lot better, but it also focused more on the Predacons and the Vok.

I aggre with the above but a coulpe of things to note: I liked Armada starscream because he had a dynamic personality and a uniqe way of thought that alowd him to see the forest for the trees. he would have actualy made a better leader than megatron.

But animated starscream, he is giving me some strange vibes. I fell as if hes not displaying his true potental. I think he's much more dangerous than he makes him self out to be. It's as if he's holding himself back for some reason.

I would say that Prime's voice doesn't impress you because the character is so different from any other OP we've seen, and the voice matches that. Even Optimus Primal, who in theory was the same type of character that Animated OP is, had a very heroic quality to his voice. Garry Chalk isn't Peter Cullen, but both of their takes on OP's voice were heroic and oozing confidence, essentially they were playing the ZOMG AWESOME LEADER OF WIN that we all know and love.
Kaye's Prime isn't at that point yet. He's still unsure of himself, and he's still very low on the Autobot command structure. His voice reflects that. I wouldn't say it's underwhelming, just not what we would expect from Optimus Prime. Which is fine, given the context of the show.

Although I will say this; despite the fact that Corry Burton's been wicked as Megs, I still prefer Kaye's Megatron voice.

Absolutely loving this show.

It started off good but following Megatron Rising it's completely taken off in directions I've never expected. Especially for kids show. Megatron Rising ended on such a high note and then expanded further with the abduction of Sari's father, and the destruction of the Allspark. Also just what the hell did Issac Sumdac want to tell Sari before he was interrupted. Season two so far has been amazing can't wait to see more Autobots/Decepticons join the war as well as learn what eventually becomes of Sumdac and who/what Sari really is.

Animation, though I absolutely love the new/stylized look, is as said about aquired tastes, and prederences. I'm a huge Justice League/Teen Titan's fan so the animation took no time to get into. I love the 2D animation compared to the 3D cel shading of Energon and Cybertron. The characters, enviroments may have suffered a little bit in detail but the animation/character movements are a lot more fluid less clunky than the last two dubbed shows. The depth/writing/characterization at this point goes well beyond anything the G1 universe had to offer and from the second season onward looks to finally be the first TF show to be on par with Beast Wars/Machines.

Kaye's Optimus Prime is brilliant, and fits the character wonderfully. Cory Burton as Megatron is also very good. The only characterization I haven't liked in this show is Meltdown. Everyone else though is fantastic and finally not to have a series suffer from bad dubbing makes this one of the best incarnations in recent years.

Really. I was kinda hoping the toys could do that.

But in actuality, there's lots of things to like about the show. The level of the writing and choesiveness between episodes is almost on par with Beast Wars.

I like and quickly took to the animation style (considering I've been a big fan of the DC Animated universe style already).

All the G1 references are just adult fan candy.

And another thing is all the toys so far are going to be characters that will be in the show and not just characters that were never in it at all, like most of the other lines tend to do.