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Jenny Deaves had always longed to meet her estranged dad, John. Her parents had split when she was just a baby, and her father was a stranger she knew only from photographs.

But the long-anticipated meeting with her father changed Jenny’s life in a totally unexpected way – they became lovers. Despite their affair causing a bitter family rift and the couple being charged with incest, they’re still together almost eight years on. Incredibly, they’ve had two children together and both remain unrepentant about their forbidden love.

No Shame

“I don’t think what we’ve done is wrong and we’ve never been ashamed of it,” says Jenny, 39. “I don’t see John as my father and there’s no way we could have stopped what happened. We feel we were destined to be together – we’re soulmates.
“It was very confusing at first, because I knew he was my father – but he never felt like my dad.”

Jenny’s parents split in 1969 and from the age of one, Jenny was brought up by her mum, Joan, 60, and stepdad David*.

“Mum never wanted me to have any contact with my real dad,” she says. “But I couldn’t help being curious about him.”

Eventually, at the age of 15, Jenny went to spend a week with John, now 61, at his home in Adelaide, South Australia.

“It was awkward because we were strangers, but we soon relaxed in each other’s company,” she says. “I wasn’t attracted to him at that stage, though.”

As John lived thousands of miles away, the pair only kept in contact through occasional letters and Christmas cards. Jenny went on to marry husband Michael* and have two children, Samantha, now 15, and Alexander, 10. John married twice more and had another daughter, who he no longer sees.

But in 2000, Jenny’s marriage ran into trouble – and the first person she turned to was her biological dad.
“I felt very down about my marriage, and I also wanted my children to meet their real granddad,” says Jenny. “It was a chance to take their minds off what was happening.

Attracted to my Dad


“We spent two weeks together and it was then I started to feel attracted to him. I remember thinking he was good-looking, but I was confused. He was 22 years older than me – and he was my father.”

After returning to her home in New South Wales, Jenny, a full-time mum, desperately wanted to see John again. They remained in daily contact and he agreed to visit her three weeks later.

The family went on a trip to the zoo and stayed in a caravan. And, after staying up to chat one night over a few drinks, Jenny climbed into bed with her dad, as her children slept just feet away. “I thought we could innocently share a bed,” insists Jenny. “But when John rolled over to give me a cuddle, I wanted more.”

The pair began kissing, before having sex. She says: “I remember my brain screaming, ‘We shouldn’t be doing this,’ but I couldn’t stop myself. It felt wonderful and right – and I was relieved that what I’d been feeling was reciprocated. We didn’t use contraception, but I didn’t care.”


Later that night, John asked Jenny if she was OK with what had happened. “We talked for ages and neither of us were ashamed about what we’d done,” says Jenny. “I just held his hand and gave him a kiss. I was so glad he felt the same way and I had no regrets.

Jenny slept with her father again the next night, before returning home to think about her future.

But, less than a week later, Samantha, then nine, accidentally revealed her mother’s secret, blurting out to Jenny’s mum: “Mummy’s happy now she’s slept with Grandpa.”

“That was when things got really bad,” recalls Jenny. “Mum confronted me and I confessed. She was horrified, so I left with the kids and headed back to Adelaide.”

'I couldn't share John'


Knowing her mum would not be able to keep her secret, Jenny was forced to tell her husband. He was disgusted and refused to see her again. Meanwhile John confessed their incestuous relationship to his shocked wife, Sarah*, 56. Incredibly, she suggested that Jenny came to live with them and share John with her.

“I think she was desperate to save her marriage,” says Jenny. “But I didn’t want
to share John, so I refused.”

When both John’s wife and Jenny’s family threatened to call the police and have Jenny’s children taken into care, the couple went on the run.

“We went to Western Australia where we wouldn’t be bothered by people,” says Jenny. “I was hopelessly in love, but we never mentioned to anyone that we were actually father and daughter.”

Within a year, Jenny discovered she was pregnant. But their son, Jackson, tragically died from a heart condition in 2001, four days after his birth. “It wasn’t a genetic problem caused by a father and daughter having a child,” insists Jenny.

Heartbroken, the couple stayed on the run for five years, until Jenny fell pregnant again in 2006.
She says: “Having a daughter with my own father – and the risks that might bring – scared me. We didn’t tell the doctors we were related, but we had all the tests and knew she was going to be healthy.”

After Celeste, now 10 months, was born, they decided to return to South Australia to settle. The couple continued to keep their true relationship a secret from other people, but explained everything to their children, who accept their relationship.

But in October, the police tracked them down after John’s disgusted sister called the police. The couple were charged with two counts of incest and pleaded guilty in court. But they were still allowed to see each other because of the children, and will return to court for sentencing this month.
Jenny says: “We realise that, legally, we won’t be able to have sex. But we’re soulmates and will never be separated."

And John says: “We’ll stay together as a family and I don’t think what we’re doing is morally wrong.
“My relationship with Jenny is the most fulfilling I’ve ever had – I love and adore her.” 

By Alley Ginstein and Victoria Raymond

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Disgusting fleshlings.. redface2tf.gif
Haggisjin
Eww on several levels. Especially her kid saying that "Mummy is happy now she slept with Grandpa", and the bloke's wife offering to share him with his daughter guh copy.gif

But, it's not like he raised her either, they met as adults... but it's still one of those instinctively gross topics.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna stick with "eww". wheeliebarf.gif
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
Do not want! guh copy.gif
Octavian Prime
*Shivers*

Bizarrely this isn’t as rare a phenomenon as you would think. Human beings are predetermined to find biological members of their own families more attractive than anyone they are not related with … in the time we spend growing up with siblings, parents, cousins etc we establish relationships that overshadow any physical attraction that might be in our psyche, take away the growing up together and you could have a situation like this.

Think back to all the times when you were growing up that your mother told you “how handsome you looked” … and then feel creeped out. wheeliebarf.gif
Haggisjin
Oh great. Thanks. Now everytime I think my baby son is cute I'm gonna get an anti-boner for a week.

FREUD'D
Glue
Good for them!

I like how the article deliberately states her age at an earlier time and her father's age now to exaggerate their age difference even more. People're always whining, "Wah! Wah! Crime against nature!" Gimme a break. Nature got along fine for billions of years without your imaginary morals an' still does today. The comments are even more hilarious how everyone fixates on this as the sole reason for everything "bad". Please, there're millions of hideously ugly people whose parents were totally unrelated.
Lord Madhammer
hawt
Asthaloth
QUOTE (Octavian Prime @ Mar 29 2008, 03:13 PM) *
Think back to all the times when you were growing up that your mother told you “how handsome you looked” … and then feel creeped out. wheeliebarf.gif




...


...


You bastard. I hate you.
wheeliebarf.gif


Glue: Genetic defects are natures way of saying "DON'T INTERBREED IDIOT!"
Thad_theImpaler

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“Mum never wanted me to have any contact with my real dad,” she says.


Gee, I wonder why rolleyestf.gif
Hot Rod
what is a "mum"?
Thad_theImpaler
mum = teh word
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Hot Rod @ Mar 31 2008, 03:10 PM) *
what is a "mum"?

a bag of snatchos
trench
QUOTE (Hot Rod @ Mar 31 2008, 12:10 PM) *
what is a "mum"?


A cat-collecting female which has been banged by Cool Hand Lube?
Hobbes-timus Prime
They shouldn't be having kids together, but otherwise I'm happy that they're happy.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Mar 31 2008, 04:44 PM) *
They shouldn't be having kids together, but otherwise I'm happy that they're happy.

Is that genetic issue a for-real thing? Just wondering... I mean, I'm already married and as far as I know, my wife isn't my long-lost sister or anything.
Thad_theImpaler
Well, you know how the saying goes. "Incest is best, when kept in the family"
I.S.T.
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Mar 31 2008, 03:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Mar 31 2008, 04:44 PM) *
They shouldn't be having kids together, but otherwise I'm happy that they're happy.

Is that genetic issue a for-real thing? Just wondering... I mean, I'm already married and as far as I know, my wife isn't my long-lost sister or anything.


Yes, but it's far less of an issue if you're doing your dad rather than your brother.
trench
QUOTE (Octavian Prime @ Mar 29 2008, 06:13 AM) *
Bizarrely this isn’t as rare a phenomenon as you would think. Human beings are predetermined to find biological members of their own families more attractive than anyone they are not related with …


I saw the results from a study involving chickens which examined this phenomenon: chickens were allowed to mate (or not) with either siblings or cousins, and raised together or not (so they could realize they might be related). The chickens tended to prefer mates in this order: cousin (not raised together), cousin (raised together), sibling (not raised together), sibling (raised together).

The authors concluded that the preference was more for those that "sort of look like you" rather than "look a lot like you" with the added element of it being better if they were from a genetic pool that was (apparantly) outside of your regular one.
Glue
Nature doesn't have any way of saying anything, actually. In terms of evolution, inbreeding leads to increased homozygosity -- essentially lower genetic diversity. Yes, you get inbreeding depression with increased pronunciation of say an undesirable trait in some offspring. Carrying it to its logical conclusion, those undesirable traits eventually lead to evolutionary dead ends, and thus just die out and leave the gene pool. Nature doesn't care. In fact, inbreeding can help eliminate such undesirable traits faster from a population.
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