I.S.T.
Mar 22 2008, 06:57 AM
DISCUSS THE EPISODE, HUMANS, OR I WILL IMPALE YOU ON MY SPIKE/SCYTHE THINGY!
Edit: Yes, I posted this as soon as the credits came on.
So, now we know how Megatron will come back...
Autobotic9
Mar 22 2008, 07:12 AM
I liked it, was the barnacle monster part of meg's new body?
Zombie Prowl and BB. Those two bots are so funny together.
"Bumblebee, I think you were supposed to do that while we were OUTSIDE!!!"
I.S.T.
Mar 22 2008, 07:19 AM
No, his old body. Some damage was taken during the crash, obviously, but that is definitely megs' body. Next episode is when all hell will break loose, and in a way it will all be Sumdac's fault.
Lord Madhammer
Mar 22 2008, 08:34 AM
Mostly filler, but fun. I loved the Constructicons / Sparkplug nod.
I forgive them these filler episodes, because all hell is in fact about to break loose.
Satan's Camaro
Mar 22 2008, 08:39 AM
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Mar 22 2008, 12:34 PM)

Mostly filler, but fun. I loved the Constructicons / Sparkplug nod.
I forgive them these filler episodes, because all hell is in fact about to break loose.
Agreed
Bestimus Mucho
Mar 22 2008, 08:55 AM
so are space barnacles related to mynocs?
Agent TMan
Mar 22 2008, 09:02 AM
Speaking of this as a filler episode, Did anyone else laugh when Prime said, "Think of it as a Character builder"?
I'm just happy Bulkhead wasn't all over the screen as normal.
Bestimus Mucho
Mar 22 2008, 09:14 AM
aw, I like bulkhead
JustLOKIPLVY
Mar 22 2008, 09:26 AM
Awesome ep.
A lot of fun with some great one liners.
BB "You don't see my game player turning everyone into mindless zombies."
Was I the only one thinking Scraplets the whole time?
Really liked the way the episode ended with a lead in to the next.
Datastream
Mar 22 2008, 09:54 AM
Great ep. Not only did it have a good story, but it also gave some plot development at the end. It is speculated that Sumdac may have found Meg's body. This is both right and wrong at the same time IMO, because the section he found was too small to be Megatron's entire body. Maybe just his chest.
pathfinder74
Mar 22 2008, 10:44 AM
I was thinking it might be Devastator under all the barnacles... I guess it might been a little to small. Might have been cooler if Sari put the key to it and when they burned off the all the crud it would be all the construction vehicles, which would now have a spark... and viola... constructicons.
Datastream
Mar 22 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (pathfinder74 @ Mar 22 2008, 02:44 PM)

I was thinking it might be Devastator under all the barnacles... I guess it might been a little to small. Might have been cooler if Sari put the key to it and when they burned off the all the crud it would be all the construction vehicles, which would now have a spark... and viola... constructicons.
Maybe it's foreshadowing? Who knows?
Agent Zero
Mar 22 2008, 11:00 AM
Great episode.
Bumblebee=WIN
Prowl=Win
Bumblebee and Prowl=win
It was the perfect filler episode. Entertaining, plus it kept the momentum of series moving forward into next week.
Pun-3X
Mar 22 2008, 11:09 AM
This ep was decent--nothing special. It does seem to be leading into the revival of Megatron, finally, so there's definitely good to come from all this.
By the way, and I may have just missed it or don't remember, but was the computer system ever referred to as Teletran-1 before? I would assume so, but I can't be sure...
onixprime
Mar 22 2008, 11:13 AM
it was a pretty good episode. funny more then anything. i like the little foreshadowing to the constructicons.
wisesky
Mar 22 2008, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (Pun-3X @ Mar 22 2008, 03:09 PM)

By the way, and I may have just missed it or don't remember, but was the computer system ever referred to as Teletran-1 before? I would assume so, but I can't be sure...
Yes it was, in the First episode, when Prime sends the probe out to scan for alt modes
Father Time
Mar 22 2008, 12:24 PM
I wouldn't call this a filler episode at all. It was a solid story, with excellent character interaction, packed with action but without detracting from the Autobots themselves. And, it turns out the thing they were fighting was indeed very significant to the overall arc of Megatron's Return. I liked this one better than the other two previous episodes.
Datastream
Mar 22 2008, 12:55 PM
QUOTE (Father Time @ Mar 22 2008, 04:24 PM)

I liked this one better than the other two previous episodes.
Agreed.
Octavian Prime
Mar 22 2008, 12:58 PM
Enjoyable episode, I liked the interaction between Bumblebee, Prowl and Sari and the B-movie horror storyline worked for me.
QUOTE (JustLOKIPLVY @ Mar 22 2008, 05:26 PM)

Was I the only one thinking Scraplets the whole time?
Nope me too, especially when water was found to be the cure … comic references are always win for me.
Bestimus Mucho
Mar 22 2008, 01:04 PM
am I the only one concerned that Bumblebee just kinda dropped the thing in the river and didn't check to make sure it was dead?
maybe it's not the last we've seen of this barnacle monster.
Paxtin
Mar 22 2008, 01:12 PM
This episode seemed to have very little going for it. It really did just feel like a filler story.
That is up until the big reveal at the end. Then the meaning of the whole episode changed.
Not my favorite episode, but the end makes it more then just filler.
The green construction equipment the barnacles assimilated into the whole of it's body did make me think Constructicons, too. It's hard to tell if that was intentional or not. Or it was just a big monster with a steam shovel for a hand.
Datastream
Mar 22 2008, 01:13 PM
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Mar 22 2008, 05:04 PM)

am I the only one concerned that Bumblebee just kinda dropped the thing in the river and didn't check to make sure it was dead?
maybe it's not the last we've seen of this barnacle monster.
Just when you thought it was safe to back in the water.
Paxtin
Mar 22 2008, 01:21 PM
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Mar 22 2008, 03:04 PM)

am I the only one concerned that Bumblebee just kinda dropped the thing in the river and didn't check to make sure it was dead?
maybe it's not the last we've seen of this barnacle monster.
Well they were kind of preoccupied what with Prowl suddenly being infected with the barnacles. But yeah, it did seem weird that they didnt go back to check on it after that. Maybe they were concerned with getting Sari home by that point.
But no, I don't think we're going to see more of the baracle thing; what with the fact it was actually Megatrons body and Sumdac now has it.
New Soundwave
Mar 22 2008, 03:18 PM
QUOTE (I.S.T. @ Mar 22 2008, 08:19 AM)

Next episode is when all hell will break loose, and in a way it will all be Sumdac's fault.
It's about freakin time all hell breaks loose
Pun-3X
Mar 22 2008, 03:50 PM
Oh yeah, forgot to add:
I thought that little line Prime had at the end was funny. "And I hope that you stop backfiring soon."
Heh. Simple, but it made me laugh.
Blitz
Mar 22 2008, 03:57 PM
nice little episode to help build up episode 15 also zombies are always interesting
Satan's Camaro
Mar 22 2008, 04:06 PM
RAWRRR ZOMBIE PROWL WILL EATTT YURRR BRAAIIINSSS
Ultimate mecha sonic
Mar 22 2008, 04:24 PM
RUN FER YER LIFE!
fun episode, though it didnt record the first minute
Galzamus
Mar 22 2008, 07:16 PM
I thought it was alright. Though I was expecting the barnicle dude to be Scrapper or something under it all.. maybe not. Ooo but I am lookin foward to the next few episodes. Things look like they're starting to heat up a bit.
Beast Megatron
Mar 22 2008, 07:43 PM
Cool episode! It had some nice animation and a number of good one-liners.
And it's awesome how they had a lead in to next week's episode, too. I can't wait for the rising.
JustLOKIPLVY
Mar 22 2008, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (Octavian Prime @ Mar 22 2008, 01:58 PM)

Enjoyable episode, I liked the interaction between Bumblebee, Prowl and Sari and the B-movie horror storyline worked for me.
QUOTE (JustLOKIPLVY @ Mar 22 2008, 05:26 PM)

Was I the only one thinking Scraplets the whole time?
Nope me too, especially when water was found to be the cure … comic references are always win for me.

Ah so that's how everyone was cured. Seriously I never was able to get the end of that arc after both Bumblebee and Blaster were infected. Nice to finally know how it ended.
Also that make this reference in the cartoon total win.
Octavian Prime
Mar 23 2008, 06:15 AM
The Scraplets appeared in issue 29 and 30 of th US comic, infecting Goldbug, Blaster and the three Decepticon Triple Changers.

Eventually the Scraplets were killed by the three Decepticon Triple Changes, after the Throttlebots failed to kill them
Stormtrooper53
Mar 24 2008, 06:40 AM
QUOTE (Paxtin @ Mar 22 2008, 04:21 PM)

QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Mar 22 2008, 03:04 PM)

am I the only one concerned that Bumblebee just kinda dropped the thing in the river and didn't check to make sure it was dead?
maybe it's not the last we've seen of this barnacle monster.
Well they were kind of preoccupied what with Prowl suddenly being infected with the barnacles. But yeah, it did seem weird that they didnt go back to check on it after that. Maybe they were concerned with getting Sari home by that point.
But no, I don't think we're going to see more of the baracle thing; what with the fact it was actually Megatrons body and Sumdac now has it.
That's how I thought it went. Megatron's body landed on Earth covered with space barnacles, the space barnacles took over his body (or a portion of it) to become the space barnacle monster, the space barnacles are killed and Sumdac finds Megatron's barnacle-free corpse.
Of course, that's not to say that we've seen the last of the space barnacles and possible ANOTHER space barnacle monster.
And I'm hoping that some how, some way the Constructicon-ish vehicles become actual Constructicons because of their merging with the space barnacle/megatron body.
Re: the episode. I liked it. It was a good "character builder." Bumblebee and Prowl make a good pair with Bumblebee providing the comedy and Prowl the straight man.
Vortex prime
Mar 24 2008, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Mar 24 2008, 07:40 AM)

QUOTE (Paxtin @ Mar 22 2008, 04:21 PM)

QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Mar 22 2008, 03:04 PM)

am I the only one concerned that Bumblebee just kinda dropped the thing in the river and didn't check to make sure it was dead?
maybe it's not the last we've seen of this barnacle monster.
Well they were kind of preoccupied what with Prowl suddenly being infected with the barnacles. But yeah, it did seem weird that they didnt go back to check on it after that. Maybe they were concerned with getting Sari home by that point.
But no, I don't think we're going to see more of the baracle thing; what with the fact it was actually Megatrons body and Sumdac now has it.
That's how I thought it went. Megatron's body landed on Earth covered with space barnacles, the space barnacles took over his body (or a portion of it) to become the space barnacle monster, the space barnacles are killed and Sumdac finds Megatron's barnacle-free corpse.
But If the space barnicles are killed by heat..how they survive atmospheric re-entry? I constantly keep asking myself that...
Stormtrooper53
Mar 24 2008, 06:53 AM
QUOTE (Vortex prime @ Mar 24 2008, 09:45 AM)

QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Mar 24 2008, 07:40 AM)

QUOTE (Paxtin @ Mar 22 2008, 04:21 PM)

QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Mar 22 2008, 03:04 PM)

am I the only one concerned that Bumblebee just kinda dropped the thing in the river and didn't check to make sure it was dead?
maybe it's not the last we've seen of this barnacle monster.
Well they were kind of preoccupied what with Prowl suddenly being infected with the barnacles. But yeah, it did seem weird that they didnt go back to check on it after that. Maybe they were concerned with getting Sari home by that point.
But no, I don't think we're going to see more of the baracle thing; what with the fact it was actually Megatrons body and Sumdac now has it.
That's how I thought it went. Megatron's body landed on Earth covered with space barnacles, the space barnacles took over his body (or a portion of it) to become the space barnacle monster, the space barnacles are killed and Sumdac finds Megatron's barnacle-free corpse.
But If the space barnicles are killed by heat..how they survive atmospheric re-entry? I constantly keep asking myself that...
Heh. I hadn't thought of that.
Maybe just the ones on the hot side burned off (assuming his body didn't tumble), or maybe some got inside his body and were protected from the heat.
Darth Caine
Mar 24 2008, 06:54 AM
QUOTE (Vortex prime @ Mar 24 2008, 09:45 PM)

QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Mar 24 2008, 07:40 AM)

QUOTE (Paxtin @ Mar 22 2008, 04:21 PM)

QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Mar 22 2008, 03:04 PM)

am I the only one concerned that Bumblebee just kinda dropped the thing in the river and didn't check to make sure it was dead?
maybe it's not the last we've seen of this barnacle monster.
Well they were kind of preoccupied what with Prowl suddenly being infected with the barnacles. But yeah, it did seem weird that they didnt go back to check on it after that. Maybe they were concerned with getting Sari home by that point.
But no, I don't think we're going to see more of the baracle thing; what with the fact it was actually Megatrons body and Sumdac now has it.
That's how I thought it went. Megatron's body landed on Earth covered with space barnacles, the space barnacles took over his body (or a portion of it) to become the space barnacle monster, the space barnacles are killed and Sumdac finds Megatron's barnacle-free corpse.
But If the space barnicles are killed by heat..how they survive atmospheric re-entry? I constantly keep asking myself that...
.... Maybe they're hiding inside Megatron's body, which also provides them cover from the extensive heat? And when landed on Earth, the barnacle grows even more bigger from within that body?
Vortex prime
Mar 24 2008, 06:56 AM
QUOTE
.... Maybe they're hiding inside Megatron's body, which also provides them cover from the extensive heat? And when landed on Earth, the barnacle grows even more bigger from within that body?
I doubt that, considering the intense heat..i'm sure his inside burned just as hot as the outside. then again a transformer's body is quite resistant...
Darth Caine
Mar 24 2008, 07:03 AM
Well, what makes me came up to that theory is that, if the intense heat could burn up to the inside of Megatron's body, then the outer layer of his body would already been melted down to shapeless mold during the combustion on atmosphere. But no, his body stays intact, no scratches at all, so we could assume that the space barnacles are hiding safe inside his body.
Blitz
Mar 24 2008, 07:03 AM
so one thing has been buggin me about this episode a rather big plot hole
at the end Sumdak finds that part of megatron I asume its part of his chest peace looking at it... it has a decepticon logo as big as his head on it... and sumdak knows about the decepticons being all evil... so why didnt he go "oh noes" rather he just goes oh yay megatron will be happy i found this chunk of him I better be fast and get it in the truck
Darth Caine
Mar 24 2008, 07:06 AM
He too busy on lab, and way too persuaded by Megatron's kindness, and doesn't interact much with the Autobots to learn lessons about Decepticons' evilness, unlike his daughter?
Vortex prime
Mar 24 2008, 07:10 AM
Yeah...i don't exactly remember isaac encountering any decepticons(other then megatron), or knowing about them for that matter...
QUOTE
He too busy on lab, and way too persuaded by Megatron's false kindness, and doesn't interact much with the Autobots to learn lessons about Decepticons' evilness, unlike his daughter?
corrected.
Blitz
Mar 24 2008, 07:11 AM
still he knows the logo he knows their evil and the autobots foes even if he is megatrons Starscream its only because he assumes megatron isn't evil but with that glaring proof he is a decepticon.... yeah plot hole that could have been fixed if say the logo was removed
and yeah he knows about the decepticons just watch episode one when we see Screamer taking him hostage on top of his screw shaped tower with fanzone and BB
Vortex prime
Mar 24 2008, 07:16 AM
QUOTE (Blitz @ Mar 24 2008, 08:11 AM)

still he knows the logo he knows their evil and the autobots foes even if he is megatrons Starscream its only because he assumes megatron isn't evil but with that glaring proof he is a decepticon.... yeah plot hole that could have been fixed if say the logo was removed
and yeah he knows about the decepticons just watch episode one when he see Screamer in action
Right i forgot about starscream lol, i dunno he probably didn't notice it...or something..
Agent TMan
Mar 24 2008, 07:17 AM
QUOTE (Blitz @ Mar 24 2008, 10:11 AM)

still he knows the logo he knows their evil and the autobots foes even if he is megatrons Starscream its only because he assumes megatron isn't evil but with that glaring proof he is a decepticon.... yeah plot hole that could have been fixed if say the logo was removed
and yeah he knows about the decepticons just watch episode one when he see Screamer taking him hostage and the autobots come to his aid
I was wondering about this too. If it didn't have the symbol though, we wouldn't have known it was Meg's body.....With what little they showed anyway.
Darth Caine
Mar 24 2008, 07:18 AM
Apart from the seemingly-death Screamer from the premiere episode, probably Prof. Sumdac is convinced that there are no more Decepticons on Earth, and heck, he doesn't even got to learn the differences of Autobot and Decepticon insignia on first episode, Screamer vs Autobots battle didn't gave him that kind of clue. And also, another Sumdac's interaction with Cybertronians, apart from Starscream, is Megatron on his lab, and Dinobots, when they're wreaking havoc on the downtown. But that's all, and all of those events, got no clues that points him to recognize the insignia of Decepticons.
Well then, probably next week, Megatron's gonna appreciate and express his thankful feeling to Sumdac...... the hard way.
Blitz
Mar 24 2008, 07:21 AM
dude watch the end of episode 1 (the special) we hear the TV reporter saying the autobots have saved the city maybe the world from the decepticon menace... the whole planet knows about them
Vortex prime
Mar 24 2008, 07:24 AM
QUOTE (Blitz @ Mar 24 2008, 08:21 AM)

dude watch the end of episode 1 (the special) we hear the TV reporter saying the autobots have saved the city maybe the world from the decepticon menace... the whole planet knows about them
true but caine's point holds merit as well..the dinobot's HAD the autobot insignia on them....and they were pretty hostile themselves.
Blitz
Mar 24 2008, 07:27 AM
QUOTE (Vortex prime @ Mar 24 2008, 03:24 PM)

QUOTE (Blitz @ Mar 24 2008, 08:21 AM)

dude watch the end of episode 1 (the special) we hear the TV reporter saying the autobots have saved the city maybe the world from the decepticon menace... the whole planet knows about them
true but caine's point holds merit as well..the dinobot's HAD the autobot insignia on them....and they were pretty hostile themselves.
but sumdak made the dinobots (with some help maybe more then what he thinks) so the autobot logos were put their by sumdak so they can not reflect the 2 factions at all. the logos I guess were added as a tribute and to add the Bot to dinobot
Darth Caine
Mar 24 2008, 07:29 AM
QUOTE (Blitz @ Mar 24 2008, 10:21 PM)

dude watch the end of episode 1 (the special) we hear the TV reporter saying the autobots have saved the city maybe the world from the decepticon menace... the whole planet knows about them
The core problem in this case is Prof. Sumdac himself, not about the world opinion on Decepticons.
I doubt he even knows about the Decepticon insignia on Megatron's body. Points given are, he's way too convinced by Megatron's helpfulness and false kindness, also probably about his debts to Megatron for reverse-engineering study from his severed head to create earth automatons. And also, due to his lack of interaction with the Autobots, especially during battle against the Decepticons, could also contribute to his lacks of caution and knowledge about the still-existing Decepticons' threats. (and their insignia).
Well, those are my 2 cents.
Vortex prime
Mar 24 2008, 07:30 AM
QUOTE (Blitz @ Mar 24 2008, 08:27 AM)

QUOTE (Vortex prime @ Mar 24 2008, 03:24 PM)

QUOTE (Blitz @ Mar 24 2008, 08:21 AM)

dude watch the end of episode 1 (the special) we hear the TV reporter saying the autobots have saved the city maybe the world from the decepticon menace... the whole planet knows about them
true but caine's point holds merit as well..the dinobot's HAD the autobot insignia on them....and they were pretty hostile themselves.
but sumdak made the dinobots (with some help maybe more then what he thinks) so the autobot logos were put their by sumdak so they can not reflect the 2 factions at all. the logos I guess were added as a tribute and to add the Bot to dinobot
didn't the autobot insignia appear after the blast of allspark energy?
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