Yes! No comic panels, no 5-hour long origin, no flowers to comprehend, just straight-up green-on-green violence!!

So rather than a unique superhero franchise with heart and soul, its just a generic punch and throw movie..

QFT!

There was plenty of punch and throw action in the last Hulk movie. If anything, making this new one nothing but punch and throw is as ghey as the Batman movies before Batman Begins, and about as accurate to the current and recent(recent being defined as the previous ten years before the first tim burton batman movie came out) past comics as well.

YES

The only thing I liked about Ang Lee's Hulk movie was some of the frufy philosophical sh*t...and that was poorly done (and wasted on Nick Nolte). I can honestly say the only good thing about that film was Jennifer Connelly's b00bs.

Bring on Ed Norton, I say.

Frufy? What the fuck does frufy mean?

Whoops....frufru. It's a technical term.

See what I dont get is the objection to Hulk increasing in size, If you are powered by raw agression, and your power increases with your rage what happens to the energy? Even in physics energy can be converted into matter and vice versa. A SUPERHUMAN increasing in size/mass who came about because of a MASSIVE radioactive accident unable to use energy? What next problems with Spidey walking walls? Hell we had Starscreaming about Calypso in POTC a GODESS using a gods powers...

I grew up watching the Marvel Hulk toon and he traveled by using those superjumps (Superman originaly only lept tall buildings flight was a later addition to his powers) what would people want him to travel like? Run? A gentle stroll?

I also have issues with those who dont like the Hulk looking at the flowers and birdies, beuty often calms rage, why do you think angry people go for a walk in the woods?
People say they want a realistic superhero movie but want all the realism sapped out, NO what they want is their fave commic brought to life.

I'm also of the opinion that a lot of the Starscreaming about the size thing=ghey.

I can understand part of the arguement, however. The problem is they really had no other way of showing his strength increase when getting pissed off given the way the film had been set up. They would have had to rewrite a fair bit of it, adding in a scene or two. Increasing in size gave them an out: good ol' CG.

Another thing people don't realize is Hulk has been calmed by nature type Blot in the comics too. I think the last time was in the '70s comics, though. I can see why people wouldn't remember.

In the end, I think the funniest Starscreaming about the movie comes from comic book nerds. They got an accurate adaptation, and were too stupid to realize it.

I think it's been said there's to be some semi-continuity with the first film, where's he's still bumbling about the jungles of South America at the beginning. Y'know, nature and sh*t.

I dont understand it, what did people want? Bigger muscles "Hukeye the Nuclear Man". Colour changes? Then you would get Starscreaming about "Grey Hulk = Ghey Hulk" or even worse "Hulk is Green Not red" like another fandom deserves that thrust upon them :bluefaceWAIT Did someone agree with me *faints*So how did he get Plastic Surgery? That must have been a surgeons "WORST DAY EVAH" "Hey wait NURSE HES GOING BLUE... WAIT NO ITS GREEN""Impossible even with liver problems people only go yellow or blue if they die""I KNOW THAT, check the gas line he's growing bigger""HULK SMAAA AAASHHH"

It was officially announced that they are no ties to the first film whatsoever.

Which is ghey for the people who liked the first film.

Maybe people who liked the first film are ghey[/bait]

What could be ghey about a muscleman in tight trunks playing with a poodle and soldiers... WAIT

OT LOVE ABOMINATION! That ribcage looks like he is so strong his muscles are almost pulling it out of his chest.

I liked the Ang Lee version, but disliked Nick Nolte's character.
It seemed obvious that the army would (eventual in the sequel) make the Abomination.

As a hater of the original, allow me to sum up a few of our talking points:

Hulk was Nickelodeon slime green
Hulk looked like a cartoon
Hulk did not speak
Hulk did not smash (enough)
Hulk fought cartoon dogs in a tree (wtf)
Hulk has father issues
Hulk had emo angst
Hulk was experimented on by said father as a child (wtf again)
No villain/lame villain
Absorbing man turns into jellyfish cloud
Lame final battle with nonsensical resolution
Abundance of 24-esque comic panels
And lastly, the movie was boring (see Superman Returns)

This doesn't look to be all that great either, but I expect it to improve upon the above issues at the very least, and Ed Norton is a much stronger actor, though Liv Tyler is weaker than Connely.

I think its way to early to be complaining about the movie - nothing was really shown.
everything that the trailer showed was the bare minimum for any Hulk movie.

People who don't like mass shifting need to realize that its part of the Hulk - no way around it.

The only thing i didnt like about the trailer is that it implies that the HULK is a force for Good!! (while Abomination is the embodiment of all evil or something).

A lot of the Hulk's appeal is that he is Destructive - and Banner must constantly wrestle with that.
HULK is as much villain as he is Hero, and I hope the movie doesn't lose sight of that.

I have a feeling this trailer is a major third act spoiler...which sucks.

Otherwise I think it looks cool.

The trailer started off cool for me, then sort of turned into a CG spankfest at the end.

BTW I don't think it has to be "this movie rules, the other one sucked" or vice-versa.

Both could be true. Or neither.

how could a Hulk movie NOT be a CGI spank fest?

The best way I can explain my feeling about it is: about halfway through it stopped being a movie trailer and started being a video game trailer.

Thought Eric Bana did a pretty good job. Was kinda hoping to see him fight Brad Pitt as Magneto. Oh wait... o_O

I didn't like the first one, but I only saw it once in the theater. I'd be willing to watch it again.

I'm a fan of Norton, and I'll see this one.

Just saw the new trailer with Tony Stark! Oh yeah I'm geeked for the Hulk.

Was shown during the NBA Finals.

Wow they only showed the commerical once but after trying to find it on the net I came across that Captain America will also make a cameo in the new Hulk movie too.

DAMN!

Here is the clip!

...

That's unexpected.



Cameo'd as the same guy in a movie that came out the same year.

That's gotta be a first for any actor.

With the success of Iron Man, it's not that surprising if Marvel + the studios would just try to steamroll through an Avengers theme of movies and hope for a grand slam. Not that unlikely either since, for the moment, they're in as good a position as they can be coming offa Iron Man..

I really want to like this Hulk movie, but every time I see a shot in the trailer with him in it, it looks like a cut scene from a video game.

My only problem with the first movie is Hulk didn't really get to be Heroic at all, I mean he saved Betty and there is a discussion whether or not he saved the people on the golden gate on purpose or accident. I agree with Hutner that the hulk is good and bad, but he's usually bad because his way of dealing with sh*t usually involves destruction of city blocks because he has no control (see Hancock trailer for similar comparison) but having read the novel adaptation (a mistake I admittedly made with SM3) I will say they found a way to make the hulk both a terror and a savior. So i'm cool with it.

Oh geez!
Why would you read the novelization of any movie?

I read there is supposed to be a surprise ending...maybe Iron Man'd?

Banner/Green Hulk equals awesome!

I think this movie will probably flop, fanboyz like to blame the first film's "failure" on Lee, I have the feeling it didn't do so well for other reasons, which will only become apparant when this one goes down the toilet as well.

I'm gonna disagree... I don't think it's gonna be huge since the Hulk doesn't have as much "fun" potential as Indy or Iron Man, but I think it'll do well enough.

The first film wasn't a box office flop, was it?

That was all Lee, that one was baaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddd.

I think this movie might (almost) do as well as Iron Man.

One review:

The Ang-Hulk didn't do Horribly...
I think its funny how it has gotten such a reputation as a "flop" when it actually made "blockbuster" BO-figures....

And IMO - Ang's Hulk wasn't "bad" perse, but it wasn't "THE HULK" either.

I wonder if Ang Lee had made the SAME movie and called it Jekyll or Random Monster ruminations - if people would have a different perspective on it. I think we all just have this Knee jerk reaction to it because its so NOT the Marvel Hulk that we all know and lurve.

I don't know why I feel the need to read those novelizations... it's a sickness

But I really feel that story-wise this one is superior to the first. Except of course that Peter David is a hack writer and I had to suffer through his prose to read it

My problems with the movie have nothing to do with the name of the title character. The script was beyond meandering, there were about three plots, the main character was as exciting as a puddle of milk, the comic panels gave me seizures, and ILM's effort was completely wasted because Lee wanted the Hulk to look "exactly like the comics" down to the brilliant green hue.

lol to your link being, of course, from fox news

How are you supposed to make a decision about something without first knowing how Rupert Murdoch feels?

I'll probably wait to rent the Hulk. The more I think about Iron Man, the more underwhelmed I am by it.

Maybe movies are just supposed to be movies?

I think that sometimes our, er, precise demographic tends to invest a bit more in movies than the general public does. For most people they're two hours at the amusement park... to us, they're like drugs or something

or so it seems sometimes

People like you need to go see SPEED RACER Twice!

I'm gonna get paid to watch Speed Racer at work. No way will I be buying a ticket.

Who the hell was that Al Gore look-a-like evil CEO dude?

What sells Iron Man is that Robert Downey, Jr. is friggin' awesome.


Ed Norton is a great actor, but he's going to be completely absent for loooong stretches at time while there is a goofy cartoon monster rampaging on screen.

Because Downey was never absent while that goofy cartoon robot rampaged on screen?


Your loss... its a movie that should be seen on the big screen (Even IMAX if possible)

lol truth.... at least 1/2 truth because Iron Man was photorealistic and Hulk is... not

plus you got to see the Downey O-face closeups when he was in the suit

My point was more the latter, as even when he was in the suit there was still a running commentary (via or radio) that was generally pretty humorous/entertaing and allowed some connection between the cartoon and the actor - with the Hulk it will be all cartoon...

Supposedly the Hulk's Face is a realtime scan (more accurate than motion capture) of Norton's face.
I think that, IF the film is successful (and i mean conceptually not necessarily financially) we will be discussing the HULK in terms closer to Gollum/Smegol and less Scooby Doo...

I don't imagine I will ever see a Wachowski Siblings film on the big screen ever again.

I'll live.