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DinobotEd
grimlocklaugh.gif Don't you think it's wierd or ahkward that the Decepticons have dinosaur robots in Generation 1? I mean the Dinobots should be the only dinosaurs in the whole thing!

Like the Decepticons have
Trypticon,
Overkill,
Slugfest
& Snapdragon
Bestimus Mucho
There's always exceptions. I mean hey, if there can be autobot jets, why not?
Talkie Toaster
i think the term Dinocons would be more traditional (insecticons, combaticons, stunticons, predacons etc)

and bot should be reserved for autobots

that's primarily why the term minicons annoys me

in Victory there are decepticon dinosaurs that combine to form Dinoking
Blitz
watch TF:victory you will find your dino-cons
Bestimus Mucho
Ah Dinoforce.... HOLY JESUS DID THEY JUST KILL HUMANS?!!?
Tripredacus
QUOTE (Blitz @ Feb 1 2008, 03:38 PM) *
watch TF:victory you will find your dino-cons


It would have been better if they didn't all act like children...
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
So, are they like Mikey or something?
Tripredacus
QUOTE (Teh INTERNETS ^_^ @ Feb 2 2008, 12:24 PM) *
So, are they like Mikey or something?


They cry a lot... and by cry I mean with tears like this:

slugpitcher
so what were the dinobots before they scanned dinosaurs for alt modes..... they weren't called dinobots either i'll bet... i'd call them grimlock & the cy posse
Bestimus Mucho
the dynabots?
Soundwinder
Lightning Strike Coalition.

"Dynobots" is the dumbest idea ever.
Talkie Toaster
QUOTE (Tripredacus @ Feb 2 2008, 03:58 AM) *
QUOTE (Blitz @ Feb 1 2008, 03:38 PM) *
watch TF:victory you will find your dino-cons


It would have been better if they didn't all act like children...

be fair, towards the end of the series i became fond of Kakuryu, (triceratops) i really felt for the guy, especially with Goryu beating him up all the time for his stupidity. Especially when he keeps saying he likes insects so the destrons try the cybertronian devouring ones on him.

you're right about the rest of them though they were just idiots without any personallity
Tripredacus
QUOTE (slugpitcher @ Feb 4 2008, 09:49 AM) *
so what were the dinobots before they scanned dinosaurs for alt modes..... they weren't called dinobots either i'll bet... i'd call them grimlock & the cy posse


In the cartoon, they didn't scan anything. They became what Wheeljack wanted them to. In the comic they scanned dinosaurs in the Savage Land but... that's Marvel fantasy land and just plain wrong to be in the TF continuity.
Bestimus Mucho
QUOTE (Soundwinder @ Feb 4 2008, 02:08 PM) *
Lightning Strike Coalition.

"Dynobots" is the dumbest idea ever.



people say this, but never give a reason why. I think it's clerver enough. Plus cmon, we're talking about transforming dinosaurs here, there isn't much about em that isn't stupid.
Emerje
In the end it looks like there were more Decepticon dinos in G1 than Autobot. So, uh, what have we learned?

Emerje
harrismonkey
QUOTE (Tripredacus @ Feb 1 2008, 10:58 PM) *
QUOTE (Blitz @ Feb 1 2008, 03:38 PM) *
watch TF:victory you will find your dino-cons


It would have been better if they didn't all act like children...



I remember the dinobots starting out as mean, reasonably intelligent characters (grimlock especially).

Seems like Grimlock almost killed Prime when they were first introduced.

I don't remeber if they started using dinobots as comedic relief before the movie or not. Actually my only pre movie memory of them is Grimlock trying to kill Prime.
Zombie Rodimus
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Feb 5 2008, 01:22 PM) *
QUOTE (Soundwinder @ Feb 4 2008, 02:08 PM) *
Lightning Strike Coalition.

"Dynobots" is the dumbest idea ever.



people say this, but never give a reason why. I think it's clerver enough. Plus cmon, we're talking about transforming dinosaurs here, there isn't much about em that isn't stupid.


Okay, reason why: the idea that a group would, on Cybertron, simply be associated together with a meaningless name like 'Dynobots' is not just ridiculous, it's silly. 'Dynobots' does not mean anything. What even is a 'Dyno'? That they then arrive on Earth, scan some dinosaurs, and, as a pun, start calling themselves 'Dinobots' is even dafter.

I'd just like to also make a comment about people saying the idea of transforming robots is stupid, or ridiculous. It's not. The idea of machines coming to life has been with us since people started making machines. Uneducated people all over the world thought steamtrains were demonic monsters when they first appeared. I'd categorise the idea of alien visitors replicating our technology as a means of disguise fascinating or, at worst, frightening, not 'stupid'.

Then again, transforming dinosaurs is a bit surreal.
Squashua
You guys are all forgetting the original TF animals:

Ravage (jaguar), Buzzsaw (vulture) and Lazerbeak (vulture)

Understandably, those are their ROBOT forms, which (I suspect) indicates that they are subservient, but still.
Soundwinder
http://TFormers.com/transformers-deceptico.../8965/news.html

What the Powerglide? Why does that even exist? This isn't even that interesting a thread...
Kurosaki Ichigo
QUOTE (Zombie Rodimus @ Feb 5 2008, 01:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Feb 5 2008, 01:22 PM) *
QUOTE (Soundwinder @ Feb 4 2008, 02:08 PM) *
Lightning Strike Coalition.

"Dynobots" is the dumbest idea ever.



people say this, but never give a reason why. I think it's clerver enough. Plus cmon, we're talking about transforming dinosaurs here, there isn't much about em that isn't stupid.


What even is a 'Dyno'?


Well...a dyno, or dynomometer is the equipment used to measure horsepower and torque in a vehicle. There are chassis dynos which measure the power at the wheels, and engine dynos that measure the power at the flywheel. Sorry, had to be a spoil sport! grimlocklaugh.gif Though, if you've ever seen one of these you'd know a transforming version of one of these is even more ridiculous than a tf'ing dinosaur.
Casts A Shadow
....all of this, and these "cybertronians" were built by Wheeljack.
Goktimus Prime
QUOTE (DinobotEd)
Don't you think it's wierd or ahkward that the Decepticons have dinosaur robots in Generation 1? I mean the Dinobots should be the only dinosaurs in the whole thing!

As NLTAG said, why? (o_O)

There aren't many alt modes which are exclusive to any one faction. Autobots have jets (Powerglide, Jetfire, Aerialbots etc), Decepticons have cars (Battlechargers, Stunticons etc) and so forth.

Gouryuu

Gairyuu

Kakuryuu

Doryuu

Yokuryuu

Rairyuu

QUOTE (slugpitcher)
so what were the dinobots before they scanned dinosaurs for alt modes..... they weren't called dinobots either i'll bet... i'd call them grimlock & the cy posse

As others have already mentioned, the origin of the Dinobots varied according to different canonical sources.

In the G1 comics, the Dinobots were just Autobots. The faction known as "Dinobots" was only formed after they came to Earth and was reformatted with dino modes to adapt to the Savage Land. Swoop transformed into a jet and was a member of the Autobot Elite Flying Corps - where his original name was Divebomb until he got pwned by a Decepticon who then stole his name (and later became a member of the Predacons), forcing the original Divebomb to change his name to Swoop - a name he carries with shame, swearing vengeance some day against the Predacon Divebomb where he hopes to defeat him in battle and claim his original name back.

In the G1 cartoon, the Dinobots were created on Earth and were given dino modes because... umm... it seemed like a neat idea? Oh yeah, they were also given simple brains ("That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard!").

In Dreamwave's The War Within series, they were called Dynobots on Cybertron and transformed into military like vehicles (WWI Swoop retained his jet mode from the G1 comics). The Dynobots spearheaded the Lightning Strike Coalition which also consisted of Kup, Ironhide, Inferno, Smokescreen and Wheeljack.
D-Unit
I don't know if anyone hit on this angle or not already, but if they didn't, UMM, WAHT'S THE BIG DEAL???? So wait, there should only be autobot dinosaurs? So there should be no decepticon sports cars or trator trailers, no autobot military vehicles, there were also MOSTERBOTS, and before that, Deceps had the market cornered on monsters...so uhh, no, I don't think it's awkward
-D
Doctor Stupid
QUOTE (D-Unit @ Feb 6 2008, 04:20 PM) *
I don't know if anyone hit on this angle or not already, but if they didn't, UMM, WAHT'S THE BIG DEAL???? So wait, there should only be autobot dinosaurs? So there should be no decepticon sports cars or trator trailers, no autobot military vehicles, there were also MOSTERBOTS, and before that, Deceps had the market cornered on monsters...so uhh, no, I don't think it's awkward
-D


I have to agree. It's almost like saying people of one background can't be in a certain job because of their background.


With that said, just because the Decepticons didn't have a character with a microscope for its alt mode doesn't mean they're stupid (the smartest Cybertronian was Shockwave, after all) and just because the Autobots didn't have a gorilla alt mode in its ranks doesn't mean they don't stink, or that their descendents not allowed to have a gorilla alt mode.
Goktimus Prime
As I said before, I can't think of too many alt modes which are exclusive to any one faction. There have been good and evil Transformers for nearly all kinds of alt modes.

Heroic Cars: Autobot cars, mini-bots etc
Evil Cars: Stunticson, Battlechargers etc
Heroic jets: Powerglide, Jetfire, Aerialbots etc
Evil jets: Decepticon jets, Decepticon Targetmasters etc.
Heroic trucks: Optimus Prime, Huffer, Pipes etc.
Evil trucks: Motormaster, Nemesis Prime/Scourge/Black Convoy etc.
Heroic Dinosaurs: Dinobots, Dinobot
Evil Dinosaurs: Snapdragon, Overkill, Slugfest, Dino Force, Magmatron, Guiledart, Sabreback, Sling etc.
Heroic primates: Optimus Primal, B'Boom, Apache, Optimus Minor, Autobot Pretenders (human shells) etc.
Evil primates: Apeface, Beastbox, Stranglehold, Pretender Starscream, Bludgeon (an undead primate, but a primate nonetheless!) etc.
Heroic helicopters: Whirl, Blades etc.
Evil helicopters: Vortex, Armada Cyclonus, Obsidian etc.
Heroic insects & arachnids: Big Mos, Tonbot, Scissor Boy, BM Buzzsaw, TM2 & BM Blackarachnia, Pincher etc.
Heroic insects & arachnids: Insecticons, Deluxe Insecticons, Manterror, Waspinator, Tarantulas, original BW Blackarachnia etc.
Heroic boats: Seaspray, Seawatch, Waver, Broadside etc.
Evil boats: Shortround, Tidalwave etc.
Heroic trains: Trainbots, Team Bullet Train, Sixtrain, Sixliner etc.
Evil train: Astrotrain
Heroic tanks: Warpath, Tako Tank, Big Shot etc.
Evil tanks: Blitzwing, Megatron (G2, Armada) etc.
Heroic space shuttles: Sky Lynx, Galaxy Shuttle, Mach, Armada Jetfire etc.
Evil space shuttles: Blast-Off, Shuttle Gunner etc.
Heroic wristwatch: Time Warrior
Evil wristwatch: Meantime

...and the list goes on. There are good and evil Transformers for virtually all kinds of alt modes used by Transformers.
Soundwinder
What about guns?

... other than Browning. And Targetmasters.

... what about Microscopes?

... other than Magnificus.
Direrose
There should been a series with just dinobots, good and evil. It would have been great seeing them fight. brawnlaugh.gif
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
"Heroic wristwatch:"

Now there is a TV series in itself!
Goktimus Prime
QUOTE (Soundwinder)
What about guns?

... other than Browning. And Targetmasters.

Browning's a Decepticon. smiletf.gif

As for Heroic guns, Break and Stampy have gun modes. Yeah okay, that's a stretch - guns are pretty much an evil alt mode for Transformers. ;p

QUOTE (Soundwinder)
... what about Microscopes?

... other than Magnificus.

You just answered that question! tounge1.gif

Another alignment-exclusive alt mode - rat. There are no evil rats. The only rat-moded Transformers are Rattrap and Packrat, both of which are Heroic.
Aquarion
Dinoforce was just the Decepticon Prentender Monsters with new pretender shells, so technically, they don't have anything to do with dinosaurs.
Tripredacus
QUOTE (Aquarion @ Feb 9 2008, 05:46 PM) *
Dinoforce was just the Decepticon Prentender Monsters with new pretender shells, so technically, they don't have anything to do with dinosaurs.


Except for their "new pretender shells" looking like dinosaurs...
DinobotEd
Maybe we should just stick to what dinosaur transformers we most like.

I'll stick with the Dinobots.
Tripredacus
QUOTE (DinobotEd @ Feb 18 2008, 11:39 AM) *
Maybe we should just stick to what dinosaur transformers we most like.

I'll stick with the Dinobots.


Me Slag no like anything!
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