PlumperHumper
Jan 5 2008, 08:22 AM
According to this link -
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=839(Five Posts down is Bay's Reply)
Michael Bay said this on his website, Shoot For The Edit.
Michael Bay says Jazz is NOT returning for Transformers 2.
So sorry Jazz-Fans, he's dead and staying dead it looks like.
Bestimus Mucho
Jan 5 2008, 08:29 AM
Aparently Sari couldn't get there fast enough with her key.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 5 2008, 08:32 AM
too bad so sad
Agent Zero
Jan 5 2008, 08:53 AM
Soundwinder
Jan 5 2008, 09:31 AM
I'm torn.
On one hand, I really liked Jazz.
On the other, this means his death actually does have some meaning. Not much, but some.
Cadogen
Jan 5 2008, 09:38 AM
QUOTE
No more we'll put up with the continuing racial ethnic discrimination against us! There were 5 Autobots in Film1 and the only one that eventualy died was the only African-American-bot!!!
I feel offended by everyones lack of interest against this gruelling misstreatment of Jazz and his death in Film1...
I'm not totally surprised, but I'm still shaking my head that someone would pull a racial card over Jazz's death. I wonder if this doof knew that Barricade, by his definition, is also "african-american".
Anyways, glad to see Jazz won't come back from the dead. Let's make this SOMEWHAT real!
Sangron
Jan 5 2008, 11:31 AM
With all the "UNIQUE" tfs who needs him.
( . Y . )
Jan 5 2008, 11:41 AM
Finally.
Supreme_Megatron
Jan 5 2008, 11:47 AM
Don't forget the chance that this might be one of the leaks of false info.
That said, I'm hoping Bay means it. Like everyone said, if he stays dead, it gives his death some meaning.
Satan's Camaro
Jan 5 2008, 12:29 PM
Thank Powerglideing God.
Asthaloth
Jan 5 2008, 01:41 PM
Bestimus Mucho
Jan 5 2008, 01:55 PM
jazz is black?
Asthaloth
Jan 5 2008, 01:55 PM
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Jan 5 2008, 09:55 PM)

jazz is black?
Silver I thought?
Bestimus Mucho
Jan 5 2008, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (Asthaloth @ Jan 5 2008, 04:55 PM)

QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Jan 5 2008, 09:55 PM)

jazz is black?
Silver I thought?

me too!
hmmm... E-hobby black Jazz?
Agent Zero
Jan 5 2008, 02:13 PM
Jazz dying probably had more to do with Bay not liking his alt mode then him being the "black" Autobot.
Besides, as Blitz-Wing pointed out, Barricade's just as "black" as Jazz, and he was one of the few 'Cons to live.
Personally, as someone of British decent, I found the death of Bonecrusher to be extremely insensitive
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
Jan 5 2008, 02:32 PM
As much as I liked Jazz Im glad he's gone for good. Gives the series a bit of credibility don'tyathink?
BaCon
Jan 5 2008, 02:33 PM
Moral of the story is Michael Bay or anyone else not speaking officially for the studio should not be listened to. When it comes to details about the movie the studio wants released officially, we'll know about it and report on it. Otherwise, its ALL hearsay and we're not going to report on non-news about non-news like this.
masterminicon
Jan 5 2008, 03:23 PM
I'm holding my opinion till further down the road when the writers strike is over and we start seeing some official info and what not. Just cause Bay says it does not make it so. He doesn't have the absolutely final say in things by himself. If the writers feel a need for Jazz to return from the dead for some peculiar reason, okay. If not, okay. I for one really liked him and would like him to come back, however unrealistic that may seem.
RodimusMark
Jan 5 2008, 06:36 PM
I have to agree with most everybody here, he needs to stay dead. Hopefully megatraon will stay dead too and, like in the IDW Comics, have Galvatron be a completely different tformer. There are plenty of great characters that we have yet to explore, not to mention, bringing him back is story time taken up trying to explain how it's possible for Jazz to come back in the first time.
Agent Zero
Jan 5 2008, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:36 PM)

I have to agree with most everybody here, he needs to stay dead. Hopefully megatraon will stay dead too and, like in the IDW Comics, have Galvatron be a completely different tformer. There are plenty of great characters that we have yet to explore, not to mention, bringing him back is story time taken up trying to explain how it's possible for Jazz to come back in the first time.

Actually, with the exception of the current iDW comic series, Galvy has always been an upgraded Megatron.
RodimusMark
Jan 5 2008, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 09:40 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:36 PM)

I have to agree with most everybody here, he needs to stay dead. Hopefully megatraon will stay dead too and, like in the IDW Comics, have Galvatron be a completely different tformer. There are plenty of great characters that we have yet to explore, not to mention, bringing him back is story time taken up trying to explain how it's possible for Jazz to come back in the first time.

Actually, with the exception of the current iDW comic series, Galvy has always been an upgraded Megatron.
and I love that fact, Galvatron should come in as a sort of Decepticon myth to step up after meg's death. When other Decepticons compete for the throne, then Galvatron will come in and maybe blow up the winner with ease(as a nod to the original animated movie?).

EDIT: the above is a tad cheesy and maybe a bit Mary Sue. That really isn't how I would bring him in, ec=xcept for him not being a reformatted Megatron.
siburke939
Jan 5 2008, 07:00 PM
Agent Zero
Jan 5 2008, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:48 PM)

QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 09:40 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:36 PM)

I have to agree with most everybody here, he needs to stay dead. Hopefully megatraon will stay dead too and, like in the IDW Comics, have Galvatron be a completely different tformer. There are plenty of great characters that we have yet to explore, not to mention, bringing him back is story time taken up trying to explain how it's possible for Jazz to come back in the first time.

Actually, with the exception of the current iDW comic series, Galvy has always been an upgraded Megatron.
and I love that fact, Galvatron should come in as a sort of Decepticon myth to step up after meg's death. When other Decepticons compete for the throne, then Galvatron will come in and maybe blow up the winner with ease(as a nod to the original animated movie?).

EDIT: the above is a tad cheesy and maybe a bit Mary Sue. That really isn't how I would bring him in, ec=xcept for him not being a reformatted Megatron.
Ah, ok. I thought you were implying that he was a separate character in the Marvel run.
As for the movie, I can see them letting Megs come back to life but not Jazz, because Megs is necessary to the plot. No other Decepticon, including Galvatron, is as synonymous with Decepticon leadership as Megatron is. Starscream would work for a while, just until Megs gets back online. But really, to appeal to the general audience, you have to go with Megatron.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 7 2008, 10:23 AM
QUOTE (masterminicon @ Jan 5 2008, 05:23 PM)

I'm holding my opinion till further down the road when the writers strike is over and we start seeing some official info and what not. Just cause Bay says it does not make it so. He doesn't have the absolutely final say in things by himself. If the writers feel a need for Jazz to return from the dead for some peculiar reason, okay. If not, okay. I for one really liked him and would like him to come back, however unrealistic that may seem.
It sure isn't up to the writers to determine. They're pretty close to being low man on the totem pole. They submit the script to Bay for approval, and if Bay doesn't want Jazz to come back from the dead, it isn't going to happen. The only way it could happen is if he's overridden by his producer or the studio. Which seems unlikely, given that Transformers was the #3 highest-grossing movie of 2007 and studios are typically reluctant to interfere with a working formula.
Of course, I say this realizing that some people simply aren't going to believe it until they actually watch the movie.
And then the speculation will begin about Jazz returning in TF3.
trench
Jan 7 2008, 10:40 AM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 7 2008, 10:23 AM)

QUOTE (masterminicon @ Jan 5 2008, 05:23 PM)

I'm holding my opinion till further down the road when the writers strike is over and we start seeing some official info and what not. Just cause Bay says it does not make it so. He doesn't have the absolutely final say in things by himself. If the writers feel a need for Jazz to return from the dead for some peculiar reason, okay. If not, okay. I for one really liked him and would like him to come back, however unrealistic that may seem.
It sure isn't up to the writers to determine. They're pretty close to being low man on the totem pole. They submit the script to Bay for approval, and if Bay doesn't want Jazz to come back from the dead, it isn't going to happen.
The only way it could happen is if he's overridden by his producer or the studio. Which seems unlikely, given that Transformers was the #3 highest-grossing movie of 2007 and studios are typically reluctant to interfere with a working formula.
Of course, I say this realizing that some people simply aren't going to believe it until they actually watch the movie.
And then the speculation will begin about Jazz returning in TF3.
People also tend to forget that Bay was one of the producers himself.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 7 2008, 10:43 AM
Yeah. I was thinking more of Spielberg, whom I guess is the executive producer...
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
Jan 8 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:48 PM)

QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 09:40 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:36 PM)

I have to agree with most everybody here, he needs to stay dead. Hopefully megatraon will stay dead too and, like in the IDW Comics, have Galvatron be a completely different tformer. There are plenty of great characters that we have yet to explore, not to mention, bringing him back is story time taken up trying to explain how it's possible for Jazz to come back in the first time.

Actually, with the exception of the current iDW comic series, Galvy has always been an upgraded Megatron.
and I love that fact, Galvatron should come in as a sort of Decepticon myth to step up after meg's death. When other Decepticons compete for the throne, then Galvatron will come in and maybe blow up the winner with ease(as a nod to the original animated movie?).

EDIT: the above is a tad cheesy and maybe a bit Mary Sue. That really isn't how I would bring him in, ec=xcept for him not being a reformatted Megatron.
Ah, ok. I thought you were implying that he was a separate character in the Marvel run.
Well he was and he wasn't. There were two of them. One was the Megatron of the future,the other was from a parallel universe or something. (you knew this didn't you?)
Agent Zero
Jan 8 2008, 04:39 PM
QUOTE (Galvasean @ Jan 8 2008, 12:08 PM)

QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:48 PM)

QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 09:40 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:36 PM)

I have to agree with most everybody here, he needs to stay dead. Hopefully megatraon will stay dead too and, like in the IDW Comics, have Galvatron be a completely different tformer. There are plenty of great characters that we have yet to explore, not to mention, bringing him back is story time taken up trying to explain how it's possible for Jazz to come back in the first time.

Actually, with the exception of the current iDW comic series, Galvy has always been an upgraded Megatron.
and I love that fact, Galvatron should come in as a sort of Decepticon myth to step up after meg's death. When other Decepticons compete for the throne, then Galvatron will come in and maybe blow up the winner with ease(as a nod to the original animated movie?).

EDIT: the above is a tad cheesy and maybe a bit Mary Sue. That really isn't how I would bring him in, ec=xcept for him not being a reformatted Megatron.
Ah, ok. I thought you were implying that he was a separate character in the Marvel run.
Well he was and he wasn't. There were two of them. One was the Megatron of the future,the other was from a parallel universe or something. (you knew this didn't you?)
I always assumed that parallel Galvy was just an upgrade of parallel Megs.
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
Jan 9 2008, 04:41 PM
QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 8 2008, 04:39 PM)

QUOTE (Galvasean @ Jan 8 2008, 12:08 PM)

QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:48 PM)

QUOTE (Icecap79 @ Jan 5 2008, 09:40 PM)

QUOTE (RodimusMark @ Jan 5 2008, 09:36 PM)

I have to agree with most everybody here, he needs to stay dead. Hopefully megatraon will stay dead too and, like in the IDW Comics, have Galvatron be a completely different tformer. There are plenty of great characters that we have yet to explore, not to mention, bringing him back is story time taken up trying to explain how it's possible for Jazz to come back in the first time.

Actually, with the exception of the current iDW comic series, Galvy has always been an upgraded Megatron.
and I love that fact, Galvatron should come in as a sort of Decepticon myth to step up after meg's death. When other Decepticons compete for the throne, then Galvatron will come in and maybe blow up the winner with ease(as a nod to the original animated movie?).

EDIT: the above is a tad cheesy and maybe a bit Mary Sue. That really isn't how I would bring him in, ec=xcept for him not being a reformatted Megatron.
Ah, ok. I thought you were implying that he was a separate character in the Marvel run.
Well he was and he wasn't. There were two of them. One was the Megatron of the future,the other was from a parallel universe or something. (you knew this didn't you?)
I always assumed that parallel Galvy was just an upgrade of parallel Megs.
Yeah he was. In fact its hinted that he was the Megs from TF:TM or at least a Megatron from a remarkably similar reality.
Galzamus
Jan 13 2008, 09:46 AM
I don't see how anyone can have an emotional attachment to a character who did essencially nothing to further the plot line other than to have dialogues with Optimus about Bumblebee's capture.. oh and be megatrons stress ball for awhile.

Ironhide and Ratchet had their uses atleast (medic and high explosive guy) but Jazz was a throw away character..
SIEGE
Mar 20 2008, 09:50 AM
I would rather that he stay dead than spend screen time inventing a way for him to return.
SMITHSQUARED
Mar 20 2008, 10:00 AM
QUOTE (Galzamus @ Jan 13 2008, 01:46 PM)

I don't see how anyone can have an emotional attachment to a character who did essencially
nothing to further the plot line other than to have dialogues with Optimus about Bumblebee's capture.. oh and be megatrons stress ball for awhile.

Ironhide and Ratchet had their uses atleast (medic and high explosive guy) but Jazz was a throw away character..
I agree about the emotional attachment, but without his fight with megatron, Sam wouldnt have covered the ground he did with the allspark. Jazz's sacrifice was very essential to the story
he shouldnt come back from the dead though, that concept is lame on every account... except jesus
UltraPrime420
Mar 20 2008, 10:12 AM
I say just leave him dead...He was one of my favorites in the G1 cartoons, but I do not want to waste time on TF2 explianing how they were able to bring him back to life...I want to remember him as making a huge sacrafice for the overall victory of good...
Smooth Jazz
Mar 20 2008, 01:47 PM
QUOTE (Smith @ Mar 20 2008, 02:00 PM)

QUOTE (Galzamus @ Jan 13 2008, 01:46 PM)

I don't see how anyone can have an emotional attachment to a character who did essencially
nothing to further the plot line other than to have dialogues with Optimus about Bumblebee's capture.. oh and be megatrons stress ball for awhile.

Ironhide and Ratchet had their uses atleast (medic and high explosive guy) but Jazz was a throw away character..
I agree about the emotional attachment, but without his fight with megatron, Sam wouldnt have covered the ground he did with the allspark. Jazz's sacrifice was very essential to the story
he shouldnt come back from the dead though, that concept is lame on every account... except jesus
LOL nice save.
Vortex prime
Mar 25 2008, 05:48 AM
Well this makes the toy stating: "how jazz was revived and chose a new colour scheme" pointless doesn't it?
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
Mar 30 2008, 02:09 PM
QUOTE (Vortex prime @ Mar 25 2008, 05:48 AM)

Well this makes the toy stating: "how jazz was revived and chose a new colour scheme" pointless doesn't it?
Its just a toy..
trench
Mar 31 2008, 03:53 PM
QUOTE (Vortex prime @ Mar 25 2008, 05:48 AM)

Well this makes the toy stating: "how jazz was revived and chose a new colour scheme" pointless doesn't it?
That sounds better than, "Well, here's an uninspired repaint of how Jazz would have looked as a mid-70s LeMans racer if he hadn't died."
goth in a box
Apr 18 2008, 01:27 AM
Kay, I liked Jazz vey much, he was such a cool character.
And I didn't like it when they killed him off in such an insensitive, non-caring way.
But , think it's better that he stays dead, itcotributes A LOT to the movie's credibility.
If he would be ressurected I would like the movie a lot less.
pathfinder74
Apr 18 2008, 05:02 AM
Has it been said who's going to fill the role of his lieutenant? My vote is for Hound.
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